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"McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Gary Mitchell" <wb6yru@ix.nospam.netcom.com> wrote in message
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>> Paul E Kiefer Jr wrote:
>>>
>>> TigerTiger wrote:
>>>> Found these on the IGN boards.
>>>>
>>>> Scanned pics of Tomb raider Legend from the May issue of PSM
>>>>
>>>>
http://img177.exs.cx/img177/2388/18uj.jpg
>>>>
http://img213.exs.cx/img213/3884/20gu.jpg
>>>>
http://img213.exs.cx/img213/3723/33tq1.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Tombraider.com is also in the process of being updated.
>>>>
>>>> The wait is nearly over!
>>>>
>>>> TT
>>>
>>> Okay, Mr. Gard, I think I can live with the new image of Lara. Did
>>> ya have to put her in a training bra, though? It's not Lara unless
>>> there's some cleavage showing (not too much, just a little).
>>
>> Based on some interviews I read a while back, this seems to be an
>> issue with Gard... Apparently he doesn't like big breasts. It was
>> one of the reasons he left Core, arguments over Lara's cup size.
>
> I've read the same, and seen interview clips where Gard clearly disliked
> some of the current aspects Core went with in Lara. The physical was a
> main one.
>
>>
>> Now, here's the thing I don't understand... In one of the guide
>> books to TR 1 (by Prima), there are some early drawings of Lara,
>> (apparently concept sketches by Toby Gard). Many of them depict
>> Lara as this crazed comic-book type character. And in one, she's
>> holding a few severed heads.
>
> That sounds interesting. I'd love to see all that. I kinda collect
> "stuff for the games" that I keep, such as all the TR games, Quake, Doom
> and Unreal too. I have the very first Tombraider guidebook that was out
> when the game was first released (here anyway). It's not a Prima. It's
> "Tombraider: The Official Strategy Guide" - EIDOS Interactive, on the
> cover. Author is Zach Meston, published by Dimension Publishing 1996. I
> do have a Prima "double decker", guidebooks for TR1 and 2. Much much
> newer.
> The old book has only two double page "spreads" of a rendered Lara, and a
> 1 page ad in the back. Everything else is game screens.
> Prima is good about putting other images in with the game screens. That
> holds for this double decker too, but I don't think the Lara "paper dolls"
> pages qualify
🙁
> You wouldn't mind scanning some of those would ya?
>
The book is called Tomb Raider Game Secrets, by Nick Roberts. I thas about
three separate illustrations of a Lara looking like a comic book drawing,
only one of which shows her pony tail. One does have a couple of severed
heads in her right hand, and with many separate items on her belt, and
shoulders (like gas grenades), and Lara has a very vicious look on her face.
There does not seem to be any positive indication the illustrations were by
Toby Gard, other than his credit as animation. Can you imagine, the first
TR game was done by six people. I can scan any page, but I don't have
anyplace to post them. ^_^
Inu-Yasha
Feh!!
>
>>So, let me see if I've got this
>> straight... She can be a psychotic killer, and that's perfectly
>> OK, just so long as she isn't (horror of horrors) too voluptuous.
>> Is that it?
>
> Well that's just their being too human Gary
Focus on the minor and
> leave the important bit to the wolves so to speak
> I agree totally with you, there is too much killing going on.
>>
>> It's one of the very few things I don't like about the game--too
>> much killing. I know that sort of thing is popular, but I don't
>> care much for it. Once in a while is OK, if it makes sense. But
>> to just run through killing everything and everyone in sight...
>> not so fun. When they say a game will have "more action," I'm
>> afraid that's just a euphemism for more shooting/killing. So, I'm
>> a little dubious about the this next installment. ... maybe Gard
>> feels big bouncies would interfere too much in the kill-fest.
😉
>>
>> Even if there's gunplay, it doesn't always have to be kill kill
>> kill. There could be a shoot-out where one or both simply
>> decides it's getting too hot and escapes. This only happened
>> once that I recall, in the Cistern level.
>
> Really? That would be Pierre? Remember good ol Larson? In St. Frances
> Folly, Lara shoots cats, bats and some guy down below, on the floor.
> Colloseum, she shoots and kills animals, but the humans always get away.
> Hmm. I wonder if Lara actually killed a human in TR1? I mean with
> shooting/fighting them. Things happened where people got killed I'm sure,
> like the Atlantean stronghold blowing up. But DID Lara actually kill any
> humans? Never thought about that before. Seemed it was always a given.
> Well, I'll be looking
> McG.
>
>>
>>> My one request is that you don't change story arcs in mid-stream.
>>> That'll make things even worse, story-wise. Stay with the Nephilim
>>> arc, but make it better.
>>>
>>> The only problem was the story wasn't detailed enough. It was
>>> contrived, more or less. The layout also looked way too linear, for
>>> the most part. Yeah, sure, she had some choices, but it wasn't
>>> enough to get rid of that linear feel.
>>>
>>> AND, FOR GOD'S SAKES, IMPROVE THE DAMN CONTROL SYSTEM!!! I sure as
>>> hell don't go running headlong into a man with a gun if I can help
>>> it!
>>
>> If you don't have good controls, you don't have a good game.
>> I'm sure that's high on their list. If it isn't... well, let's
>> just think happy thoughts for now.
>>
>> -- G
>>
>>
>>> Track it, maybe, but I'm not that suicidal! And I sure as hell don't
>>> hesitate to decide if I want to turn or just move sideways. Better
>>> response time between key-presses would be a big boost. If I press
>>> it, it should initiate the action immediately. And, last time I
>>> checked, I can go from standing to running instantaneously. Why the
>>> hell does Lara have to walk before she can run?? THAT AIN'T
>>> REALITY!!!
>>>
>>> Well, we'll see what happens.
>
>
>
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