first pc build i3 8100 gtx 1070

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The i3-8100 will come with paste pre applied.
It looks like three grey strips.
Take care and install the cooler right the first time.
If you need to do it a second time, you will need a tube of paste.
See my instructions at the end.

Either case will be fine from a cooling point of view.
If you have at least two front 120/140mm intakes, your cpu and GTX1070 will get a good supply of fresh air.
Plan on two front intakes and a single exhaust fan.
If the front intakes are filtered, you will have a cleaner case via positive pressure airflow.
NZXT supplies such filters, Can't tell about the masterbox.
You will want two more fans for the masterbox, one more for the NZXT.
Plan on relocating the fans on the nzxt to the front.
140mm fans move...


ok tnx
 


should i go for nzxt s340 elite ?
 
I use an S340 Elite and is works just fine, plenty of airflow. If you can, try and go for one of the newer i5 processors, as currently you could experience bottlenecks with the GTX 1070 and this i3. I recommend an AMD Ryzen 5 (basically any model) as it will make sure you don't get any bottlenecks.
 

i3 8100 = i5 7500
also in my country is much expensive it s like the double on the price ...
for ryzen the same think it s expensive
i5 8600k cost more 200 $
 


i already have gtx 1070
 
The i3-8100 will come with paste pre applied.
It looks like three grey strips.
Take care and install the cooler right the first time.
If you need to do it a second time, you will need a tube of paste.
See my instructions at the end.

Either case will be fine from a cooling point of view.
If you have at least two front 120/140mm intakes, your cpu and GTX1070 will get a good supply of fresh air.
Plan on two front intakes and a single exhaust fan.
If the front intakes are filtered, you will have a cleaner case via positive pressure airflow.
NZXT supplies such filters, Can't tell about the masterbox.
You will want two more fans for the masterbox, one more for the NZXT.
Plan on relocating the fans on the nzxt to the front.
140mm fans move more air at lower rpm and will be quieter.
The key to good cooling is to get good airflow INTO the case.
It will exit somewhere, taking heat with it.

Some other thoughts:

1. You have a single 8gb ram stick.
It will operate in slower single channel operation.
I suggest a 2 x 4gb kit.
8gb should be sufficient for gaming.
Do not plan on adding ram in the future, ram not in a matched kit is not supported.
It is likely to work, but not 100% guaranteed; you take your chances.

2.
I will never again build without a ssd for the "C" drive. It makes everything you do much quicker.
120gb is minimum, it will hold the os and a handful of games.
But, many things default to the "C" drive.
When a SSD nears full, it will lose performance and endurance.
240gb is the recommended minimum.

If you can go 240gb, or 500gb you may never need a hard drive.

You can defer on the hard drive unless you need to store large files such as video's.
It is easy to add a hard drive later.

Samsung EVO is a good choice for performance and reliability.


----------------how to mount the stock Intel cooler--------------

The stock Intel cooler can be tricky to install.
A poor installation will result in higher cpu temperatures.
If properly mounted, you should expect temperatures at idle to be 10-15c. over ambient.

To mount the Intel stock cooler properly, place the motherboard on top of the foam or cardboard backing that was packed with the motherboard.
The stock cooler will come with paste pre applied, it looks like three grey strips.
The 4 push pins should come in the proper position for installation, that is with the pins rotated in the opposite direction of the arrow,(clockwise)
and pulled up as far as they can go.
Take the time to play with the pushpin mechanism until you know how they work.

Orient the 4 pins so that they are exactly over the motherboard holes.
If one is out of place, you will damage the pins which are delicate.
Push down on a DIAGONAL pair of pins at the same time. Then the other pair.

When you push down on the top black pins, it expands the white plastic pins to fix the cooler in place.

If you do them one at a time, you will not get the cooler on straight.
Lastly, look at the back of the motherboard to verify that all 4 pins are equally through the motherboard, and that the cooler is on firmly.
This last step must be done, which is why the motherboard should be out of the case to do the job. Or you need a case with a opening that lets you see the pins.
It is possible to mount the cooler with the motherboard mounted in the case, but you can then never be certain that the push pins are inserted properly
unless you can verify that the pins are through the motherboard and locked.

If you should need to remove the cooler, turn the pins counter clockwise to unlock them.
You will need to clean off the old paste and reapply new if you ever take the cooler off.
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Really? I have just read a couple of articles that say the 1070 will get bottlenecked, although admittedly not how much. I guess it really depends what he plans to do with the system (what GPU usage is expected).

 


I was a bit surprised myself.

There is no such thing as "bottlenecking"
If, by that, you mean that upgrading a cpu or graphics card can
somehow lower your performance or FPS.
A better term might be limiting factor.
That is where adding more cpu or gpu becomes increasingly
less effective.

Fast action games respond best to a fast graphics card, and a GTX1070 is very good at 1080P

Other games such as sims, strategy and mmo will respond best to the performance of the single master thread.
The 3.6 stock clock of the I3-8100 is quite good.

A nice competitor might be the more expensive ryzen 1400 with a slower 3.2 clock which can go higher with overclocking.
It will have 8 threads, but the truth is that few of today's games can effectively use more than 2-3 threads.
Game developers will not make games that require 8 threads; they do not want to limit their market.
 

Yeah not a bad recommendation. I suppose a Ryzen 3 2200G would do the trick with it's four cores and near 4 GHz overclock (I have one, its at 3.95GHz using a Hyper X 212 Evo).
Anyway, thanks for the information, seems you're much moire knowledgeable than I am about the GTX 1070, I need to get researching!
 


with i3 8100 there is no bottleneck with gtx 1070 ?
then i gonna upgrade to i5 8400
 


btw i just need this pc to play games and maybe using PS / CC anyway i think this cpu is good for my situation true ?