First PC Build need some help

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So I am planning to get an Intel i7 9700K 9th gen processor with an NVIDIA RTX 2070 (I cannot afford the 2080 or 2080Ti) and I know bottlenecking is extremely complex but I am just wondering if this system could cause some major bottlenecking or frame rate loss? (I plan to play on High or Ultra on most games) and YES I know no matter what you do there will be a bottleneck but I want to make sure that I can minimize the bottleneck as much as possible
 
Much depends on the types of games you play.
One rule of thumb is to budget 2x the cost of the processor for the graphics card.
In your case, you are about one to one.
A I5-9600K and a RTX2080 would be about the same budget and would perform better on games with higher resolutions and settings.
 

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Much depends on the types of games you play.
One rule of thumb is to budget 2x the cost of the processor for the graphics card.
In your case, you are about one to one.
A I5-9600K and a RTX2080 would be about the same budget and would perform better on games with higher resolutions and settings.
I see could you explain or show the performance difference from going 2070 to a 2080 and lowering the processor from an i7 to an i5? (I most likely won't overclock so it'd need to be stock)

Edit: Just a side note I am getting an Acer 27 inch 1440P 165hz monitor if that makes a difference and I play most genres besides racing
 
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Alright I think I am gonna go with the i5 9600K and RTX 2080 thank you for all the help trying to learn all this but also get assistance if I am unsure about things really it helps me a lot from screwing myself later if I wanna upgrade :)
 
The K suffix processors are all designed to be "overclocked"
That is a bit of a misnomer because all it really means is changing the multiplier in the bios from about 36 to a higher number.
Both the 9600K and 9700K will usually reach 50 on a Z390 based motherboard.
The higher clocks are most useful for sims, mmo and strategy games.
One question is how many threads can a game usefully use.
6 of the 9600K will cover just about any game. The 9700K has 8.
Most games can effectively use 3 or 4. Yes, there are exceptions.

Tom's hardware gpu tier list shows the RTX2070 at 87.2 and the RTX2080 at 96. The top being 100.

Really, you are not going to go wrong with any similar combo's.

List all of your proposed parts
and your budget.
You will get a good discussion going and avoid any pitfalls.
 

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I would get a higher quality PSU if you are dropping some pricey hardware in your build. You would be better off with a Corsair PSU Plus Gold modular or a Seasonic PSU Gold Modular at least with a 2080. You don't want to damage a pricey GPU because you cheaped out on you PSU. As far as how many Watts your PSU should have for that particular build, I would probably put a 750W PSU at the least just to be safe, especially if you want a bit of room to OC.
 
Here is a handy chart for the capacity you need.
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm
It shows, 600w for a RTX2080 based pc.
I would go stronger. to 750w. The pc will use the power it needs, regardless of the psu max capability.
Of more importance is the quality.
The one you picked is not considered very good on a list such as this:
Seasonic is always good.
Seasonic focus in 750w is about right:
https://www.newegg.com/seasonic-focus-plus-750-gold-ssr-750fx-750w/p/N82E16817151187
 
comments on your build:

9600K and rtx2080 are a very good combo.
I particularly like the EVGA cards.

cm hyper212 is popular because it is cheap.
But, from experience, I can tell you that it is not easy to install well.
It does come with paste so adding paste is not necessary.
I like the scythe kotetsu which I have used before:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7998TW/scythe-cpu-cooler-scktt1000
Here is a review:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1391-page1.html
Noctua NH-U12s is another high quality cooler.
The supplied paste is as good as any.

Do you really need 32gb? Perhaps if you will do heavy multitasking.
I suppose ram is cheap enough these days.

What will you use the hard drive for?
The best use is for bulk storage of videos.
And, I like WD better.
Consider deferring on the hard drive until you actually need the space.
It is easy to add one later.

Won't build without a ssd for windows. 500gb is fine.
But, a larger 1tb ssd does not cost that much more.
A Samsung 860QVO would be good.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vRWfrH/samsung-860-qvo-1-tb-25-solid-state-drive-mz-76q1t0bw

Seems expensive for a wifi adapter.
I would buy one with an antenna that gets better reception.
Consider a pcie x1 adapter card like this:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Chh9TW/tp-link-wireless-network-card-tlwn881nd
 

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Frankly I'd go with a better cpu and skimp more on the video card if need be. Upgrading a cpu later on tends to be much more involved vs upgrading a video card. Trust me, on my previous build I skimped and went with an I5 and regretted it. You should also ask yourself if overclocking matters much to you. Getting that I5 only makes sense if you really enjoy overclocking as 8700 non-k is going for only $40 more and should work better then that I5 even at its max OC.
 

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comments on your build:

9600K and rtx2080 are a very good combo.
I particularly like the EVGA cards.

cm hyper212 is popular because it is cheap.
But, from experience, I can tell you that it is not easy to install well.
It does come with paste so adding paste is not necessary.
I like the scythe kotetsu which I have used before:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7998TW/scythe-cpu-cooler-scktt1000
Here is a review:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1391-page1.html
Noctua NH-U12s is another high quality cooler.
The supplied paste is as good as any.

Do you really need 32gb? Perhaps if you will do heavy multitasking.
I suppose ram is cheap enough these days.

What will you use the hard drive for?
The best use is for bulk storage of videos.
And, I like WD better.
Consider deferring on the hard drive until you actually need the space.
It is easy to add one later.

Won't build without a ssd for windows. 500gb is fine.
But, a larger 1tb ssd does not cost that much more.
A Samsung 860QVO would be good.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vRWfrH/samsung-860-qvo-1-tb-25-solid-state-drive-mz-76q1t0bw

Seems expensive for a wifi adapter.
I would buy one with an antenna that gets better reception.
Consider a pcie x1 adapter card like this:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Chh9TW/tp-link-wireless-network-card-tlwn881nd
Personally I picked a decently small SSD because I don't mind much about loading times gives me time to get a drink get a snack or just stand up for a few before going back in my game and also because if I get tired of loading times I am gonna just transfer the game I play the most at the time to the SSD

and as for why I choose a big HDD is due to the fact that I won't be able to upgrade this sucker for quite some time I don't wanna have to delete programs/games a few months into having it or something

and as for the 32 RAM (I will be using dual channel) I chose it because I will be doing HEAVY multitasking and I won't have to upgrade for a long time

as for the WIFI adapter I chose it due to the fact many saying that the small adapters stopped well performing how they should be so I wanted to choose something that was strong

as for the CPU cooling fan Idm if it's cheap as long as it does its job now if it doesn't do its job let me know and I didn't choose liquid because I was already told that is a pain to manage

And the RTX card yeah I chose EVGA because I heard they are a very great option for builds the main reason I switched is bc I rather be graphics card proof for longer then CPU proof because there will probs be a budget replacement by the time the i5 9th gen becomes unusable now same cannot be said for the graphics card

Thank you for all the input tho it really helps!
 
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AngelTech

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Frankly I'd go with a better cpu and skimp more on the video card if need be. Upgrading a cpu later on tends to be much more involved vs upgrading a video card. Trust me, on my previous build I skimped and went with an I5 and regretted it. You should also ask yourself if overclocking matters much to you. Getting that I5 only makes sense if you really enjoy overclocking as 8700 non-k is going for only $40 more and should work better then that I5 even at its max OC.
I am gonna explore overclocking and see if I can overclock safely with some help from my tech-savvy friend and I am choosing the 2080 over 9700K for the reasons I stated in my previous reply but seriously thank you for the input it really helps me get the best gaming rig with my budget I'm saving up to build this in a few months but I prefer to research NOW then in a few months start and just be so confused and uneducated on all this
 
Things can change in a few months. For example, AMD is releasing Ryzen 3000 soon. It might change things up in the CPU market. AMD Navi GPUs could be released in a few months also, and Nvidia is supposed to release faster GPUs to counter that. So be sure to check back in a few months ;)
 

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Things can change in a few months. For example, AMD is releasing Ryzen 3000 soon. It might change things up in the CPU market. AMD Navi GPUs could be released in a few months also, and Nvidia is supposed to release faster GPUs to counter that. So be sure to check back in a few months ;)
I will thank you <3
 

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