First time building a gaming pc

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Hello everyone! I've been sprawling the internet for the past month and finally got together a build. I'm wondering whether or not 650W would be enough for my GPU and CPU, but since I would probably overclock them later on, I put a 750W in there just in case. I'm also looking for opinions on the R9 290X graphics card, as I can find it for exactly the same price as the GTX 780 online ($500), and it performs way better on paper. However, I've seen a lot of complaints about black screens and general instability overall, so any insight would be great! I'm also trying to keep the total cost to a minimum, so I was thinking about ditching the SSD (or maybe changing to a smaller size), since I don't see myself using it much other than for the OS. I'm also wondering if Corsair SP120 fans would do the trick for overall cooling if I overclocked my components (I'm planning on getting 4), since it's cheaper to get them in sets rather than buying AP120s and SP120s seperately, and it looks like they can do the APs' jobs fine themselves. Also, I'm looking for a silent case with a slightly smaller structure, but for the time being the Define R4 seems to be the best one.

Sorry for the big wall of text, but any help would be awesome (especially if you found some other problems in the build!)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($233.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($36.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G43 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($90.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($86.39 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Superclocked ACX Video Card ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($100.00 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($77.24 @ Amazon)
Total: $1176.58
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
 
Solution
what i changed and why...
1) newer devils canyon cpu
2)newer Z97 chipset
3) faster ram for cheaper
4) replaced a HDD+SSD for a hybrid, windows 8/8.1 boot times are only 0.9 seconds slower on the hybrid when compared to the 840 evo
5)As far as the gtx 780 vs 290x goes, only get the gtx 780 if you want physx, otherwise its a complete waste of money, the complaints you've heard about the 290x are probably about the reference version
6) the NZXT H440 beats the define r4 in almost every aspect although if you like the define R4's looks, then you can go with it
7)better power supply, the CX series are moot
8) btw, if you're using windows 7, then getting this SSD with a Caviar blue is a viable choice...


You are getting the wrong CPU you should be getting the I5 4690k its part of the haswell refresh, its just better all around. http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117372

I am also told by the resident Power Supply experts that the PSU you had was of terrible quality along with the CM series.

Also the 780 Is overkill for gaming.

Let me go ahead and make changes.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($84.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($84.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Superclocked ACX Video Card ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($100.00 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.97 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1277.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

You build came to like 1266 something when I looked at it.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bxVFbv I am not joking.

Also the R9 290X work fine if you want one, find one with good reviews.

Also if you can Get a R9 280X for GTX 770 to lower the price if that's a concern, that knocks off like 200$ also the SSD is not a must for gaming, video editing and rendering sure but gaming just makes stuff load faster.
 
what i changed and why...
1) newer devils canyon cpu
2)newer Z97 chipset
3) faster ram for cheaper
4) replaced a HDD+SSD for a hybrid, windows 8/8.1 boot times are only 0.9 seconds slower on the hybrid when compared to the 840 evo
5)As far as the gtx 780 vs 290x goes, only get the gtx 780 if you want physx, otherwise its a complete waste of money, the complaints you've heard about the 290x are probably about the reference version
6) the NZXT H440 beats the define r4 in almost every aspect although if you like the define R4's looks, then you can go with it
7)better power supply, the CX series are moot
8) btw, if you're using windows 7, then getting this SSD with a Caviar blue is a viable choice http://pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-internal-hard-drive-sv300s37a60g

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($128.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($76.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB DirectCU II Video Card ($460.00 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT H440 (Red/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1142.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

to answer your other questions, even 550w is enough for overclocking, i've added 650w in ur build just because they're very similarly priced so why not have more?
also, getting the corsair fans is a good choice however the H440s cooling is surprising good
review for it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_YioNlc298

EDIT: indeed, what the above post says is also true, the gtx 780 or 290x are overkill for 1080p gaming, however if you have a 1920x1200 or especially a 2560x1440 display then getting the gtx 780 or 290x is a good choice
 
Solution
How about something with an amd r9 290 in it which should be equal (depending on the game) to the gtx 780,

PCPartPicker part list

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master RR-T612-20PK-R1 82.9 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($76.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($84.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.91 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($100.00 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1074.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Another good cooler for that price,
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xigmatek-cpu-cooler-primesd1484