First Time Buyer is This good?

minilizard987

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■ I'm wanting to buy and build my first pc oriented for gaming, but I don't exactly know what is good!?! It is a somewhat budget build but I thought it would be better to start with pretty good pc and upgrade later? (I'm not rich im gonna have to mow a lot of yards to get this money)

check this parts list and tell me what you guys think?

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You don't want the B1 series PSU that's on all three of those builds. It's an inferior unit. If you go with an EVGA unit, you want a B2, G2, P2 or V series unit.

Also, I don't like the choice of a single width 120mm liquid cooler. They're generally outperformed by 140mm air coolers and unless there is a clearance issue or you simply hate the idea of a tower cooler taking up internal real estate, I'd avoid them. If you want a liquid cooler go with at least a 240mm unit.

I might do something like this. It's a little more money, but it's a much better build, with lower latency RAM, a bigger monitor with a faster response time, a much better PSU and a motherboard that has M.2 which the Gaming 3 does not, so that you have the option of...
Couple of things. I wouldn't go with the OEM chip, get the regular one. That way you have a stock cooler to use in the event something ever happens with your liquid cooler you have one for the interim period until you get it replaced.

Two, I don't recommend ANY of the Corsair I-series coolers. The Corsair link software sucks and there are more threads here with problems directly related to it than you could possibly imagine. I like the Corsair non-I H100 or H110 better, but even better would be the Cooler Master Nepton 240m.

Here's just one example: http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2547158/corsair-h100i.html

The NZXT PSU has to go as well, at least if you want it to last. As you can see here, it's a tier 4 unit, and VERY bad. You want something from Tier 1 or 2, at the very least, tier 3, but those are HIGHLY recommended to not be used with gaming cards or overclocked rigs, either one.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html#15349669
 
Yes. No cooler included. And for the six to eight bucks difference, it's well worth it to get the retail version that comes with a cooler. Liquid coolers are problematic sometimes, or just fail, requiring an RMA, and without the stock cooler you have no machine until the replacement arrives if you don't have a backup plan.

In fact, pretty much any time you see OEM/Tray, it means there is no cooler, thermal paste or any other goodies that might normally come with the cpu.
 
For $1150 (OP budget) i recommend you:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($226.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.95 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston Fury Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($62.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB SSC ACX 2.0 Video Card ($315.04 @ Amazon)
Case: Rosewill R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.50 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($58.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Asus VX228H 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($139.99 @ Best Buy)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($26.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1156.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-18 23:55 EDT-0400
 
You don't want the B1 series PSU that's on all three of those builds. It's an inferior unit. If you go with an EVGA unit, you want a B2, G2, P2 or V series unit.

Also, I don't like the choice of a single width 120mm liquid cooler. They're generally outperformed by 140mm air coolers and unless there is a clearance issue or you simply hate the idea of a tower cooler taking up internal real estate, I'd avoid them. If you want a liquid cooler go with at least a 240mm unit.

I might do something like this. It's a little more money, but it's a much better build, with lower latency RAM, a bigger monitor with a faster response time, a much better PSU and a motherboard that has M.2 which the Gaming 3 does not, so that you have the option of moving to the faster storage later on. I didn't worry about having M.2 with my current build but I wish I had since the prices of M.2 drives have dropped by half since then:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($226.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Nepton 240M 76.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($108.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($110.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($63.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB SSC ACX 2.0 Video Card ($315.04 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($63.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: BenQ GL2460HM 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($139.93 @ B&H)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($26.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1168.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-19 17:59 EDT-0400

 
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Here is my suggestion.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($226.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS10X Performa CPU Cooler ($30.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($110.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Fury White Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($62.89 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.30 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB SSC ACX 2.0 Video Card ($315.04 @ Amazon)
Case: Zalman Z3 Plus White ATX Mid Tower Case ($61.47 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Acer G257HL BMIDX 60Hz 25.0" Monitor ($169.99 @ Micro Center)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($26.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1134.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-20 14:27 EDT-0400
 


Nice gaming build indeed.
4 ms response time is not the best metrics for a gaming rig but OP wanna an IPS panel so it is ok i guess.
 
I will switch to the xfx psu and i will get a slightly bigger monitor but i want the ips panel for beautiful picture
I always recommend choosing a quality power supply. I like Seasonic Power Supplies (and I use them myself). The XFX power supplies are made by Seasonic, so it is a quality power supply. I would recommend a modular one (the link doesn't work so I can't tell the actual model).

For the monitor, what is your price range? For an inexpensive IPS monitor, I would recommend a 24" Asus monitor.

ASUS VN248H-P Slim Bezel Black 23.8" 5ms (GTG) HDMI Widescreen LED Backlight LCD Monitor IPS 80,000,000:1, Built-in Speakers $169 after $20 rebate

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236335


For a better monitor (more $), I would recommend something like this monitor

BenQ GW2765HT Black 27" 4ms WQHD HDMI Widescreen LED Backlight LCD Monitor IPS 350 cd/m2 DCR 20,000,000:1 (1000:1) Built-in Speakers $400

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014383
 
I'm still using my 144 Hz Asus VG248QE. It is still pretty hard to beat as a gaming monitor, and a great value for the performance. The OP remarked about wanting the better picture quality of the IPS panel. I get around that by having a plasma HDTV as a second monitor. That way you get the best of both worlds.