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Hello all,

I just joined this community and am very excited to read through all the knowledge you guys have to offer!

First off, growing up I have only played console games with the exception of WoW on low quality settings on a very old Dell circa 2006. Since I am looking to ditch consoles and get back into the PC gaming world I was looking into buying a pre-built PC, but after doing some research decided to go ahead and build my own, even though I have never done this before.

So, before I take the plunge I would like some feedback and/or suggestions on my build. I do feel like it is a little overkill, but I am not sure. I know for a fact I want to run a NVIDIA GeForce 1080 and have wireless connectivity, other than that everything else is fair game to change! Below is the list of components that I assembled on PCPartPicker, which states they are all compatible but coming in at $2500 for everything + mouse, keyboard, monitor I was wondering if this would 1) work, 2) could I reduce price because some things are not needed? I am looking to run WoW, ARMA, and MMO survival games on max settings. This rig will also be used for strictly gaming.

Parts:

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor

CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler

Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste

Motherboard: Asus STRIX Z270-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory

Storage: Western Digital Blue 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Founders Edition Video Card

Case: Corsair Air 540 ATX Mid Tower Case

Power Supply: Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit

Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter

Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan (2x)

Monitor: Asus PB258Q 25.0" 2560x1440 60Hz Monitor

Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K70 Wired Gaming Keyboard

Mouse: Corsair M65 PRO RGB FPS Wired Optical Mouse

Speakers: Logitech Z323 30W 2.1ch Speakers

Total: $2401.01

Like I said, since I am new to EVERYTHING some advice from seasoned people would go a long way in helping me out and easing my conscience about whether or not this is feasibile.

Thanks all in advance!
 
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Everything will work together just fine, however, there could be some tweaks. The founders edition cards looks great, but they run fairly hot and loud, and thus will likely not boost as high without further raising fan speeds. for pascal cards, just get the cheapest you can get as long as it has decent cooling, and it will perform as well as the silly high end ones.

Use that money that is saved, to perhaps try to swing a higher refresh rate 1440p monitor, or a 4K one, as a 1080 will produce well over 60FPS in just about any game at 1440p. If you are still unable to make these changes, perhaps start with the classic $20 Logitech keyboard and mouse combo, not a gaming specialty, but it will free up $150 more.

Either way, that is a amazing system, I would think top 90-95% in performance or so.
 
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Yeah, just most of the time with high budget builds though you can do way better for money. 😛
An example here is something like the WD Blacks, they're only good in enterprise size ranges like 4TB+, most hard drives pretty much come from the same factory anyway, and Seagate's Barracuda series is the best for the 2-3TB range, as they're also insanely well priced.
The main mistake people make is overspending on aesthetics or power supply, or wasting their money on fans for simple airflow.
All in one coolers are also victims of this. For a fraction of the price you can get a good air cooler like the Cryorig H5 which'll handle all the overclocks anyone could possibly need with an i7.
Unless your case is crap, aftermarket fans should only be bought for radiators, as those need a high static pressure fan to push air effectively.
Anyways i'll just make a list when the budget is there and show you what I mean, generally build is 100% perfect, there's only ever a few of those. :)
 
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Fair points, especially the air cooler, I agree the hardware should come first.
 
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Im trying to get at or under $2000, maybe a little lower to get at or under $2000 + shipping + tax. But even $1500 would be fantastic. Not sure how much wiggle room I have b/c I want the 1080 GeForce and Wireless and max settings.

Obviously I am not aware of the small intricacies that you pointed out about the storage. Aesthetics does not mean much to me. Performance and value is what I am looking for.
 
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Tax will be a killer, that is around $140 worth or so assuming 7%...
save $50 on a non FE card
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125880
this will run cooler and quieter, and boost higher

Save $30 on a motherboard that will do the exact same things performance wise, and is still very good.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132936&cm_re=Asus_Z270_A-_-13-132-936-_-Product

As Chugalug_ said a good air cooler will save you $50 or so.

Start with a basic keyboard/mouse saves $150 or so

That is $280 off right there.
 
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Right off the bat I can tell you that you should invest in a better quality and more powerful power supply. The Corsair CS line is mediocre at best and does not belong in a PC build costing into four digits. Its price point compared to higher quality and more powerful options makes it that much less of a value. Since a PSU's optimum efficiency hovers around a 50-55% load, I would recommend for your build going with a 750W like this one from EVGA:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438093&ignorebbr=1

^^If you wanted to save $10, you can choose the 650W variant of that line but what's the point if you are looking at a $2,000 build?
 
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Thanks! I'll make those changes. Also, thoughts on using the i7 over the i5? Ive read that the i5 can handle any game on max.
 
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Thanks. I'll look to switch those out.
 
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You would have been right a year and a half ago, but not now.
Games are moving towards multithreaded utilization rather than just quad cores.
Get this.
If you want 27": https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jFTrxr/dell-monitor-p2715q

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($337.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z270M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($101.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($127.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($66.16 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G Video Card ($684.79 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 88R MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Dell P2415Q 23.8" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor ($317.40 @ Amazon)
Total: $1886.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-04 19:01 EDT-0400
 
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Wow that is impressive for that price.
and a 1080ti and 4K screen... pretty great.
even after windows, that leaves some money for peripherals.
 
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I'll give my opinion: for gaming, not worth the increased money. In fact, in some games the hyperthreading of the i7 (if kept on) over the i5 has actually shown it to run slower than the i5. If you are into video editing like from game capturing software, then the i7 will show its legs in faster rendering. Same with other productivity apps. However, if you are just mostly gaming, don't spend the extra on an i7 especially if you are using a 1440p monitor where the GPU is more important than the CPU.

Contrary to some opinions out there, games are *not* being coded for hyperthreading and beyond six cores nor is that foreseen in the near future (John Carmack himself stated that). The latest games are coded for "mainstream" PC use which means no more than an i5. Check out this link from a BF4 Dice developer on the backfiring of coding a game for use of hyperthreading or more than four cores: http://gameranx.com/updates/id/19527/article/dice-employee-explains-thread-safety-is-the-main-technical-issue-with-battlefield-4/
 
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Battlefield one would like to talk to you 😛.
 
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I used to say the same, but the fact of the matter is, 4 cores and 4 threads is not always enough anymore. Gamers Nexus does a good job showcasing what I used to think to be utter bunk.
 
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Wow looks great, cant find the case on my screen, but I can when clicking the link, odd. But thanks! So the case fans in my original post do I still need?
 
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Not at 1440p chief. 😛 Even when at 1080p in BF1, the performance difference is negligible with the only real noticeable difference being in minimum FPS and running in DX12 mode. Here's an example of a 6th-gen i5 vs i7. Note that the i5 6600K is clocked 500MHz slower than the i7 6700K: http://www.techspot.com/review/1267-battlefield-1-benchmarks/page4.html

 
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