News Five Months Later, AMD's Zen 3+ Mobile Processors Are in Few Laptops

[Admin]

AMD's Ryzen 6000 mobile processors were released almost four months ago, and yet only eleven notebooks and four manufacturers have adopted the new CPU lineup.

Five Months Later, AMD's Zen 3+ Mobile Processors Are in Few Laptops : Read more

 

[abufrejoval]

Indeed, one can only wonder just how much backroom shenanigans must have been going on, or how deeply the TMSC order book pipeline must have been blocked with lesser chips.

I absolutley adore the Cezanne 5800U notebook I own: It puts everything Intel 14nm to shame and hardly ever breaks a ...fan (ok, my 5950X ain't bad either, but it does require a Noctua to keep quiet).

No, even an RDNA2 iGPU won't likely convert 15/28 Watts TDP into a gaming console, but who won't take the extra iGPU punch, if it came for free, and including tweaks in general power management, right?

I can only conclude that there is absolutley nothing wrong with that chip's design, but tons broken with how worthy chips get allocated foundry capacity.

Luckily, I don't think that it will break AMD's back, because the R6000 are little more than a shuffle of assets that AMD already monetized elswhere (including the Steam desk...). But darn, wouldn't I still like to have one of them, if my 5800U wasn't already much better than what I need for most everything I use it for.

And for the other stuff, I got them big iron with near Kilowatt dGPUs anyways...

 

[renz496]

AMD have a history of rejecting OEM deal.

 

[jacob249358]

I've been waiting for these apus that are supposed to be so good. Really annoying

 

[abufrejoval]

AMD have a history of rejecting OEM deal.

And would you also know why?

Is it because they are used to get so much contra revenue goodies from Intel that they can no longer operate at paying for CPUs? Or is really AMD asking for something unreasonable? And why would that change significantly from Ryzen 5000 to 6000?

While it may very well be true, it just doesn't sound very plausible in a scenario were supplied were not terribly constrained.

When AMD is all out selling wafer capacity on EPYC servers instead of low-margin notebook APUs, I could understand: bottom line is kinda important.

 

[renz496]

It was a long time ago during Rory Read helm the company. Also when it comes to things like laptop AMD, intel and nvidia did not simply sell the component to OEM. when they win the design win they also have to share the R&D with OEM developing those product. AMD is not like intel where they can easily make 18 to 20 billion per quarter. So in the end they need to be selective on which design win they want to fund. And ever since AMD go fabless intel probably no longer need to bribe OEM into not using AMD parts. AMD simply having hard time to fulfill their various product demand with limited capacity they can get from TSMC.

 

[watzupken]

AMD have a history of rejecting OEM deal.

Not surprising when you don’t have that much output to feed everyone. You will then have to prioritise who gets your chip first by looking at the sale, and, if they are going to be good strategic partners. Companies like Dell are more Intel aligned, and likely to be left as the last.

 

[abufrejoval]

It was a long time ago during Rory Read helm the company. Also when it comes to things like laptop AMD, intel and nvidia did not simply sell the component to OEM. when they win the design win they also have to share the R&D with OEM developing those product. AMD is not like intel where they can easily make 18 to 20 billion per quarter. So in the end they need to be selective on which design win they want to fund. And ever since AMD go fabless intel probably no longer need to bribe OEM into not using AMD parts. AMD simply having hard time to fulfill their various product demand with limited capacity they can get from TSMC.

This is the kind of insight that the press doesn't seem able to report upon, but which is crucial to both consumers and investors to gauge the market and base purchasing decisions on. I'll freely admit that my personal interest is on technology only, but today politics and economics are much bigger factors then tech... and quite underreported.