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I want to make a mod that makes those escort-missions less annoying.
Basically, I'll just be taking every character that can ever end up
following you and increasing their Speed and Acrobatics so that they can
keep up better. If I can figure out how, I may even apply that code that
causes them to teleport to you when you get too far away. Most companion
mods now have this, so it should be possible. What I need is s good
comprehensive list of NPCs that can follow you so I know who to apply this
to. I've got a starter list here off the top of my head, most of which I've
forgotten the names of. Anyone that can provide these names, or any others
I've missed, this would be appreciated.

Din - (Imperial soldier north of Gnisis, thinks you're a slaughterfish...)
Nevrasa Dralor - (Old lady between Seyda Neen and Balmora, wants escort to
Fields of Kummu shrine)
Evras Oril - (Northwest of Suran, studying mating Kagoutis)
Sottilde - (Woman who helps you in one of the Dunmer strongholds, Telasero,
I think?)
Pemenie the Trader - (North of Caldera, gives Boots of Blinding Speed in
exchange for trip to Gnaar Mok)
Hlormar - (Nekkid Barbarian north of Caldera, looking for witch that stole
his clothes)
? - (Another Nekkid Barbarian near Valenvaryon in the same situation)
? - (Stuck up lady south of Ald-Ruhn who wants an escort to Ghostgate)
? - (Argonian slave west of Erabanimsum Camp, needs escort to Ebonheart -
This is a LONG walk in bad terrain, particularly important)
? - (Guy in Erabanimsum Camp that you need to escort to the camp to the west
to prove his manliness)
? - (Farmer with pack Guar northeast of Vivec)
? - (Woman in inn near Wolverine hall, escort to docks on Mage's Guild
quest)
? - (Woman held prisoner in Ashalamwia, Daedric temple near Khuul)
? - (Man looking for wife west of Ald Ruhn)
? - (Woman held captive downstairs in Tel Fyr)
? - (Guy that follows you to kill necromancer in Vas on Fighter's Guild
quest)
? - (Argonian in bar at Vivec Foreign Quarter, needs escort to Jobasha's
Rare Books)
? - (Woman that has a beef with some Daedra in Dwemer ruin, forgot name of
it. Fighter's Guild quest, I think)
? - (Man that needs escort from bar in Balmora to Pelagiad, Mage's Guild
quest)
? - (Khajit slave in Daedric ruins near Ald Velothi, Twin Lamps quest)
? - (Guy held prisoner in Mamaea, his father hangs around in Ald'Ruhn bar)
? - (Guy held prisoner in one of the manors in Ald'Ruhn, needs escort to his
father in another manor)
? - (Slave woman that you disguise as Telvanni noblewoman to get married to
the chief in Zainab Camp)

Any more you can think of? I know I haven't got them all, as there are many
aspects of this game I haven't even touched yet. (I've yet to complete
enough missions for any Great House to get their manor built, for example,
and I haven't even tried playing a Vampire yet, so that's a whole other keg
of beans...) I'm not touching Tribunal and Bloodmoon at this time, nor any
other 3rd party mods. (Most of the good ones have better following code on
their NPCs anyhow if they feature escort missions at all.)

I may not change all of them. Particularly the ones that are a short trip
without too much danger or hard terrain, I may leave them alone. But for
the longer trips, it can be quite annoying having the guys get lost all the
time. The other change I might do is to arm them with a Chitin shortbow and
some cheap arrows, and increase their Marksman enough to ensure that they
use them, instead of charging in with bare fists and getting in the way.

Oh, and please stop me if somebody has already done this. It's probably an
obvious thing to do, but I haven't seen it done yet...
 
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On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 01:28:21 -0500, Darrel Hoffman <i.dont@think.so> wrote:

> I want to make a mod that makes those escort-missions less annoying.
> [...] What I need is s good
> comprehensive list of NPCs that can follow you so I know who to apply this
> to. I've got a starter list here [...]
>
> [...]
>
> Any more you can think of?

- A Khajiit Slave named Rabinna at Fatleg's Dropoff in Hla Oad.
- Fonus Rathryon west of Maar Gan.
- Itermerel in Balmora's Eight Plates (Mages Guild Quest)

Björn
 
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> - A Khajiit Slave named Rabinna at Fatleg's Dropoff in Hla Oad.
> - Fonus Rathryon west of Maar Gan.
> - Itermerel in Balmora's Eight Plates (Mages Guild Quest)

Okay, I had Itermerel, just forgot the name. Forgot about Rabinna. Never
met Fonus Rathryon yet, but he's added to the list. I've gone and
researched the names of all the other ones, so now the list looks like so:

-Din - (Imperial soldier north of Gnisis, thinks you're a slaughterfish...)
-Nevrasa Dralor - (Old lady between Seyda Neen and Balmora, escort to Fields
of Kummu)
-Evras Oril - (Northwest of Suran, studying mating Kagoutis)
-Sondaale of Shimmerene - (Woman who you rescue in Telasero) (Not Sottilde.
Oops.)
-Pemenie - (North of Caldera, gives Boots of Blinding Speed in exchange for
trip to Gnaar Mok)
-Itermerel - (Man that needs escort from Eight Plates in Balmora to
Pelagiad, Mage's Guild quest)
-Fonus Rathryon - (west of Maar Gan, needs escort to Koal Cave.)
-Rabinna - (Khajit slave at Fatleg's Dropoff to escort to Ebonheart)
-Hlormar Wine-Sot - (Nekkid Nord north of Caldera, looking for witch that
stole his clothes)
-Botrir - (Another Nekkid Nord near Indoranyon in the same predicament)
-Viatrix Petilia - (Stuck up lady south of Ald-Ruhn who wants an escort to
Ghostgate)
-Reeh-Jah - (Argonian slave west of Erabanimsum Camp, needs escort to
Ebonheart)
-Assaba-Bentus - (Guy in Erabanimsum Camp that you need to escort to the
camp to the west)
-Teris Raledran - (Farmer with pack Guar northeast of Vivec)
-Rollie the Guar - (His Guar)
-Tenyeminwe - (Woman in Dirty Muriel's near Wolverine Hall, escort to docks
for Mage's Guild)
-Malexa - (Woman held prisoner in Ashalamwia, Daedric temple near Khuul)
-Drerel Indaren - (Man looking for wife west of Ald Ruhn)
-Delyna Mandas - (Woman held captive downstairs in Tel Fyr)
-Ulyne Henim - (Woman that follows you to kill necromancer in Vas on
Fighter's Guild quest)
-Huleeya - (Argonian in bar at Vivec Foreign Quarter, needs escort to
Jobasha's Rare Books)
-Larienna Macrina - (Woman that has a beef with some Daedra in Nchurdamz)
-J'Saddha - (Khajit slave in Daedric ruins near Ald Velothi, Twin Lamps
quest)
-Hannat Zainsubani - (Guy held prisoner in Mamaea, his father hangs around
in Ald'Ruhn bar)
-Varvur Sarethi - (Guy held prisoner in Venim Manor in Ald'Ruhn, needs
escort to his father)
-Falura Llervu - (Slave woman that you disguise as Telvanni noblewoman for
Zainab chief)

(One thing that might be fun would be to try and get as many of these people
to follow you at once as you can. Obviously, ignore the ones with time
limits, Fonus Rathryon and Viatrix Petilia, and people like Falura Llervu
who is related to a rather late-in-the-game quest. But you could put
together a sizeable army with just the rest of them. I brought Pemenie,
Din, Hilda from the Hilda mod, and that wizard from Havish with me when I
went to get the Amulet of Shadows with a newbie character. Took everybody
to the ship in Ald Velothi, dropped the wizard off in Havish, used the ship
from Havish to get back to Gnaar Mok for Pemenie, then used ship and strider
via Khuul to get Din back to Gnisis. Much easier that way...)
 
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Darrel Hoffman wrote:
> I want to make a mod that makes those escort-missions less annoying.
> Basically, I'll just be taking every character that can ever end up
> following you and increasing their Speed and Acrobatics so that they can
> keep up better. If I can figure out how, I may even apply that code that
> causes them to teleport to you when you get too far away. Most companion
> mods now have this, so it should be possible. What I need is s good
> comprehensive list of NPCs that can follow you so I know who to apply this
> to. I've got a starter list here off the top of my head, most of which I've
> forgotten the names of. Anyone that can provide these names, or any others
> I've missed, this would be appreciated.
>
> Din - (Imperial soldier north of Gnisis, thinks you're a slaughterfish...)
> Nevrasa Dralor - (Old lady between Seyda Neen and Balmora, wants escort to
> Fields of Kummu shrine)
> Evras Oril - (Northwest of Suran, studying mating Kagoutis)
> Sottilde - (Woman who helps you in one of the Dunmer strongholds, Telasero,
> I think?)
> Pemenie the Trader - (North of Caldera, gives Boots of Blinding Speed in
> exchange for trip to Gnaar Mok)
> Hlormar - (Nekkid Barbarian north of Caldera, looking for witch that stole
> his clothes)
> ? - (Another Nekkid Barbarian near Valenvaryon in the same situation)
> ? - (Stuck up lady south of Ald-Ruhn who wants an escort to Ghostgate)
> ? - (Argonian slave west of Erabanimsum Camp, needs escort to Ebonheart -
> This is a LONG walk in bad terrain, particularly important)
> ? - (Guy in Erabanimsum Camp that you need to escort to the camp to the west
> to prove his manliness)
> ? - (Farmer with pack Guar northeast of Vivec)
> ? - (Woman in inn near Wolverine hall, escort to docks on Mage's Guild
> quest)
> ? - (Woman held prisoner in Ashalamwia, Daedric temple near Khuul)
> ? - (Man looking for wife west of Ald Ruhn)
> ? - (Woman held captive downstairs in Tel Fyr)
> ? - (Guy that follows you to kill necromancer in Vas on Fighter's Guild
> quest)
> ? - (Argonian in bar at Vivec Foreign Quarter, needs escort to Jobasha's
> Rare Books)
> ? - (Woman that has a beef with some Daedra in Dwemer ruin, forgot name of
> it. Fighter's Guild quest, I think)
> ? - (Man that needs escort from bar in Balmora to Pelagiad, Mage's Guild
> quest)
> ? - (Khajit slave in Daedric ruins near Ald Velothi, Twin Lamps quest)
> ? - (Guy held prisoner in Mamaea, his father hangs around in Ald'Ruhn bar)
> ? - (Guy held prisoner in one of the manors in Ald'Ruhn, needs escort to his
> father in another manor)
> ? - (Slave woman that you disguise as Telvanni noblewoman to get married to
> the chief in Zainab Camp)
>
> Any more you can think of? I know I haven't got them all, as there are many
> aspects of this game I haven't even touched yet. (I've yet to complete
> enough missions for any Great House to get their manor built, for example,
> and I haven't even tried playing a Vampire yet, so that's a whole other keg
> of beans...) I'm not touching Tribunal and Bloodmoon at this time, nor any
> other 3rd party mods. (Most of the good ones have better following code on
> their NPCs anyhow if they feature escort missions at all.)
>

What about the wise woman in the one camp that wants you to her to the
temple to the NW. Usually this is pretty simple except when you get
near to shore, especially if you clear the temple first.


> I may not change all of them. Particularly the ones that are a short trip
> without too much danger or hard terrain, I may leave them alone. But for
> the longer trips, it can be quite annoying having the guys get lost all the
> time. The other change I might do is to arm them with a Chitin shortbow and
> some cheap arrows, and increase their Marksman enough to ensure that they
> use them, instead of charging in with bare fists and getting in the way.
>
> Oh, and please stop me if somebody has already done this. It's probably an
> obvious thing to do, but I haven't seen it done yet...
>
>
 
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 21:34:09 -0500, Darrel Hoffman <i.dont@think.so> wrote:

> [...] so now the list looks like so:
>
> -Din - (Imperial soldier north of Gnisis, thinks you're a slaughterfish...)
> -Nevrasa Dralor - (Old lady between Seyda Neen and Balmora, escort to Fields
> of Kummu)
> -Evras Oril - (Northwest of Suran, studying mating Kagoutis)
> -Sondaale of Shimmerene - (Woman who you rescue in Telasero) (Not Sottilde.
> Oops.)
> -Pemenie - (North of Caldera, gives Boots of Blinding Speed in exchange for
> trip to Gnaar Mok)
> -Itermerel - (Man that needs escort from Eight Plates in Balmora to
> Pelagiad, Mage's Guild quest)
> -Fonus Rathryon - (west of Maar Gan, needs escort to Koal Cave.)
> -Rabinna - (Khajit slave at Fatleg's Dropoff to escort to Ebonheart)
> -Hlormar Wine-Sot - (Nekkid Nord north of Caldera, looking for witch that
> stole his clothes)
> -Botrir - (Another Nekkid Nord near Indoranyon in the same predicament)
> -Viatrix Petilia - (Stuck up lady south of Ald-Ruhn who wants an escort to
> Ghostgate)
> -Reeh-Jah - (Argonian slave west of Erabanimsum Camp, needs escort to
> Ebonheart)
> -Assaba-Bentus - (Guy in Erabanimsum Camp that you need to escort to the
> camp to the west)
> -Teris Raledran - (Farmer with pack Guar northeast of Vivec)
> -Rollie the Guar - (His Guar)
> -Tenyeminwe - (Woman in Dirty Muriel's near Wolverine Hall, escort to docks
> for Mage's Guild)
> -Malexa - (Woman held prisoner in Ashalamwia, Daedric temple near Khuul)
> -Drerel Indaren - (Man looking for wife west of Ald Ruhn)
> -Delyna Mandas - (Woman held captive downstairs in Tel Fyr)
> -Ulyne Henim - (Woman that follows you to kill necromancer in Vas on
> Fighter's Guild quest)
> -Huleeya - (Argonian in bar at Vivec Foreign Quarter, needs escort to
> Jobasha's Rare Books)
> -Larienna Macrina - (Woman that has a beef with some Daedra in Nchurdamz)
> -J'Saddha - (Khajit slave in Daedric ruins near Ald Velothi, Twin Lamps
> quest)
> -Hannat Zainsubani - (Guy held prisoner in Mamaea, his father hangs around
> in Ald'Ruhn bar)
> -Varvur Sarethi - (Guy held prisoner in Venim Manor in Ald'Ruhn, needs
> escort to his father)
> -Falura Llervu - (Slave woman that you disguise as Telvanni noblewoman for
> Zainab chief)

There are some more that I forgot about:
- Tarvyn Faryn (escort from Vivec, Foreign Quarter to Pelagiad; Hlaalu Quest)
- Deval Beleth (escort from Ald-ruhn, Council Hall to Koal Cave; Redoran Quest)
- Nartise Arobar (help her escape from Tel Naga; Redoran Quest)

Björn
 
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> There are some more that I forgot about:
> - Tarvyn Faryn (escort from Vivec, Foreign Quarter to Pelagiad; Hlaalu
Quest)
> - Deval Beleth (escort from Ald-ruhn, Council Hall to Koal Cave; Redoran
Quest)
> - Nartise Arobar (help her escape from Tel Naga; Redoran Quest)

Thanks. Looking at some of these characters, most of them already have
somewhat complicated scripts attached to them that I maybe shouldn't mess
with. But at the very least, I can boost their Speed and Acrobatics so they
can keep up, and arm them with bows or throwing weapons so they don't get in
the way when you're in combat. I've been using the "SetSpeed" command in
console whenever I have to do one of these quests, just because they're
annoying and frustrating otherwise. It's particularly bad if like many
people you use the ever popular Boots of Blinding Speed, but even without
these boots on, most NPCs can't keep up with you. I think setting their
speed to 200 or 300 ought to solve the problem. There's no problem with
their speed being TOO high, as they'll never run past you. Once they get
close enough, they just walk, so you don't have to worry about setting it
too high. Even if their speed is 300 and yours at 30 and you're sneaking,
you'll hardly notice anything's amiss. Just, they won't get lost if you run
a little too far away. I'd like to add the teleportation script on them,
but since it might mess up their other scripts, I may leave that alone for
now...
 
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> What about the wise woman in the one camp that wants you to her to the
> temple to the NW. Usually this is pretty simple except when you get
> near to shore, especially if you clear the temple first.

Good point. Usually it's simple, but there's a lot of swimming involved,
and that can cause problems. I wonder if it's possible to add the code that
makes it impossible for them to drown. I once lost a Khajit slave following
me that way. He got stuck under the docks when I got to town. Come to
think of it, I can't remember which character that was, but it wasn't
Rabinna or J'Saddha, the two Khajits I already have on the list, as I was on
the east coast when it happened, and those two are nowhere near there.
Maybe it was Reeh-Jah, the Argonian instead, but I thought they could
breathe in the water? (Never played one, don't know...)
 
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"Michael W. Ryder" <mwryder@_worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:TIQUd.88441$Th1.72863@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>
>> Oh, and please stop me if somebody has already done this. It's probably
>> an
>> obvious thing to do, but I haven't seen it done yet...
>>
Um, please post to the newsgroup, preferably with the subject in ALL CAPS,
when you do finish the mod, and where we can find it, etc..... :)

Coyote <mod addict>
 
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> Um, please post to the newsgroup, preferably with the subject in ALL CAPS,
> when you do finish the mod, and where we can find it, etc..... :)

Just did my first test (on Viatrix Petilia, everybody's least favorite
escort mission), and it works. I copied some of the script from the Hilda
mod, it does basically 3 things now. First, when she is following you, her
speed will be boosted to your own speed +85. (This is directly out of
Hilda. Setting it to exactly your speed isn't quite enough sometimes, I
don't know why.) When not following you, her speed returns to normal.
Secondly, I added script to make it so she won't turn on you if you
accidentally hit her in combat. She'll yell "Be careful!" or "I'm on your
side", but she won't attack you and ruin your chances of completing the
quest. Finally, if she gets caught somewhere and can't follow you, she will
automatically warp to your location if you get too far away. I ran from
Ald'ruhn where you find her all the way to Ghostgate without pausing for a
breath. I was wearing Boots of Blinding Speed, and have 296 speed total. I
made an effort to take the most circuitous path through boulders and over
steep slopes as I was able to, and she kept up pretty well. She also kept
out of the way in combat for the most part, since I armed her with a Chitin
Short Bow. However, she did insist on putting away the bow and fighting
hand-to-hand sometimes, which I can't do much about. But at least if you
hit her by mistake, she won't turn on you. Now to apply this to all the
other followers... (I'll let you know when I've finished and uploaded it
somewhere.)
 
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"Darrel Hoffman" <i.dont@think.so> wrote in message
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>> Um, please post to the newsgroup, preferably with the subject in ALL
>> CAPS,
>> when you do finish the mod, and where we can find it, etc..... :)
>
> Just did my first test (on Viatrix Petilia, everybody's least favorite
> escort mission), and it works. I copied some of the script from the Hilda
> mod, it does basically 3 things now. First, when she is following you,
> her
> speed will be boosted to your own speed +85. (This is directly out of
> Hilda. Setting it to exactly your speed isn't quite enough sometimes, I
> don't know why.) When not following you, her speed returns to normal.
> Secondly, I added script to make it so she won't turn on you if you
> accidentally hit her in combat. She'll yell "Be careful!" or "I'm on your
> side", but she won't attack you and ruin your chances of completing the
> quest. Finally, if she gets caught somewhere and can't follow you, she
> will
> automatically warp to your location if you get too far away. I ran from
> Ald'ruhn where you find her all the way to Ghostgate without pausing for a
> breath. I was wearing Boots of Blinding Speed, and have 296 speed total.
> I
> made an effort to take the most circuitous path through boulders and over
> steep slopes as I was able to, and she kept up pretty well. She also kept
> out of the way in combat for the most part, since I armed her with a
> Chitin
> Short Bow. However, she did insist on putting away the bow and fighting
> hand-to-hand sometimes, which I can't do much about. But at least if you
> hit her by mistake, she won't turn on you. Now to apply this to all the
> other followers... (I'll let you know when I've finished and uploaded it
> somewhere.)
>
>
Sweetness...........

Starwolf
 
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