Floppy Partition Missing

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I tried ResQ and it only cloned what appeared like a blank disk


THen I tired Norton DiskDoctor and it gave me back files with names
full of dollar signs

It was for IRISPEN - I bought a used 1997 version but
my folks were dying on me and i only recently got to set it
up. (Now that I need it more and can least afford a new one.)

Basically the first setup floppy

But the vendor just told me "Buy a new one"


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From: <vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com>

| I tried ResQ and it only cloned what appeared like a blank disk
|
| THen I tired Norton DiskDoctor and it gave me back files with names
| full of dollar signs
|
| It was for IRISPEN - I bought a used 1997 version but
| my folks were dying on me and i only recently got to set it
| up. (Now that I need it more and can least afford a new one.)
|
| Basically the first setup floppy
|
| But the vendor just told me "Buy a new one"
|
| - = -


What are you talking about !

You don't read and reply to your "other" posts and this post makes no sense.

Whatever the problem is...
I agree with the vendor just "Buy a new one" !

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Dave
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I have a flopyy which isn't read by any PC

It has a driver for some used hardware.

I tried ResQ on recommendaton from USENET
It only cloned the disk

Norton Disk Doctor couldn't fix the Partition Table.




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http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/vjp2/vasos.htm
---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}---
[Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy obstructive guards]
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From: <vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com>

| I have a flopyy which isn't read by any PC
|
| It has a driver for some used hardware.
|
| I tried ResQ on recommendaton from USENET
| It only cloned the disk
|
| Norton Disk Doctor couldn't fix the Partition Table.
|
| - = -
| Vasos-Peter John Panagiotopoulos II, Columbia'81+, Bio$trategist
| BachMozart ReaganQuayle EvrytanoKastorian
| http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/vjp2/vasos.htm
| ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}---
| [Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy obstructive guards]
| [Fooey on GIU,{MS,X}Windows 4 Bimbos] [Cigar smoke belongs in veg food group]

So ? Its a bad floppy and is unrecoverable.

Get a replacemnt floppy or look for a download on the internet for this unidentified
hardware.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

 

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On Thu, 8 Sep 2005 20:23:25 +0000 (UTC),
vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com put finger to keyboard and
composed:

>I have a flopyy which isn't read by any PC
>
>It has a driver for some used hardware.
>
>I tried ResQ on recommendaton from USENET
>It only cloned the disk
>
>Norton Disk Doctor couldn't fix the Partition Table.

I've never heard of a floppy diskette with a partition table.

To dump the boot sector you could use Debug from the DOS prompt, as
described in this post:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc/msg/6ca1b8e1d1f9b8df?dmode=source&hl=en

-- Franc Zabkar

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On Thu, 8 Sep 2005 20:23:25 +0000 (UTC),
vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com put finger to keyboard and
composed:

>I have a flopyy which isn't read by any PC
>
>It has a driver for some used hardware.
>
>I tried ResQ on recommendaton from USENET
>It only cloned the disk
>
>Norton Disk Doctor couldn't fix the Partition Table.

FWIW, this is what my Win98SE startup diskette's boot sector looks
like. Note that I have taken the liberty of editing the output for
clarity. Among other things, you can see an "OEM name" (MSWIN4.0), the
serial number at offsets 127-12A (18E6-3915), file system (FAT12), and
media descriptor byte at offset 115 (F0 = 1.44MB). If you can post
your own boot sector, perhaps someone could analyse it or at least
identify it.

Otherwise this may help you:
http://www.ntfs.com/fat-partition-sector.htm


C:\WINDOWS>debug

-l 100 0 0 1
-d 100 2ff

100 EB 3C 90 4D 53 57 49 4E-34 2E 30 00 02 01 01 00 .<.MSWIN4.0.....
110 02 E0 00 40 0B F0 09 00-12 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 ...@............
120 00 00 00 00 00 00 29 15-39 E6 18 42 4F 4F 54 39 ......).9..BOOT9
130 38 53 45 20 20 20 46 41-54 31 32 20 20 20 33 C9 8SE FAT12 3.
140 8E D1 BC FC 7B 16 07 BD-78 00 C5 76 00 1E 56 16 ....{...x..v..V.
150 55 BF 22 05 89 7E 00 89-4E 02 B1 0B FC F3 A4 06 U."..~..N.......
160 1F BD 00 7C C6 45 FE 0F-38 4E 24 7D 20 8B C1 99 ...|.E..8N$} ...
170 E8 7E 01 83 EB 3A 66 A1-1C 7C 66 3B 07 8A 57 FC .~...:f..|f;..W.
180 75 06 80 CA 02 88 56 02-80 C3 10 73 ED 33 C9 FE u.....V....s.3..
190 06 D8 7D 8A 46 10 98 F7-66 16 03 46 1C 13 56 1E ..}.F...f..F..V.
1A0 03 46 0E 13 D1 8B 76 11-60 89 46 FC 89 56 FE B8 .F....v.`.F..V..
1B0 20 00 F7 E6 8B 5E 0B 03-C3 48 F7 F3 01 46 FC 11 ....^...H...F..
1C0 4E FE 61 BF 00 07 E8 28-01 72 3E 38 2D 74 17 60 N.a....(.r>8-t.`
1D0 B1 0B BE D8 7D F3 A6 61-74 3D 4E 74 09 83 C7 20 ....}..at=Nt...
1E0 3B FB 72 E7 EB DD FE 0E-D8 7D 7B A7 BE 7F 7D AC ;.r......}{...}.
1F0 98 03 F0 AC 98 40 74 0C-48 74 13 B4 0E BB 07 00 .....@t.Ht......
200 CD 10 EB EF BE 82 7D EB-E6 BE 80 7D EB E1 CD 16 ......}....}....
210 5E 1F 66 8F 04 CD 19 BE-81 7D 8B 7D 1A 8D 45 FE ^.f......}.}..E.
220 8A 4E 0D F7 E1 03 46 FC-13 56 FE B1 04 E8 C2 00 .N....F..V......
230 72 D7 EA 00 02 70 00 52-50 06 53 6A 01 6A 10 91 r....p.RP.Sj.j..
240 8B 46 18 A2 26 05 96 92-33 D2 F7 F6 91 F7 F6 42 .F..&...3......B
250 87 CA F7 76 1A 8A F2 8A-E8 C0 CC 02 0A CC B8 01 ...v............
260 02 80 7E 02 0E 75 04 B4-42 8B F4 8A 56 24 CD 13 ..~..u..B...V$..
270 61 61 72 0A 40 75 01 42-03 5E 0B 49 75 77 C3 03 aar.@u.B.^.Iuw..
280 18 01 27 0D 0A 49 6E 76-61 6C 69 64 20 73 79 73 ..'..Invalid sys
290 74 65 6D 20 64 69 73 6B-FF 0D 0A 44 69 73 6B 20 tem disk...Disk
2A0 49 2F 4F 20 65 72 72 6F-72 FF 0D 0A 52 65 70 6C I/O error...Repl
2B0 61 63 65 20 74 68 65 20-64 69 73 6B 2C 20 61 6E ace the disk, an
2C0 64 20 74 68 65 6E 20 70-72 65 73 73 20 61 6E 79 d then press any
2D0 20 6B 65 79 0D 0A 00 00-49 4F 20 20 20 20 20 20 key....IO
2E0 53 59 53 4D 53 44 4F 53-20 20 20 53 59 53 7F 01 SYSMSDOS SYS..
2F0 00 41 BB 00 07 60 66 6A-00 E9 3B FF 00 00 55 AA .A...`fj..;...U.
-q

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I'm baffled. I never had anything like this before.

But Norton did get the files back, without names.
(ie with $ in the names for unknown characters)

I can't believe irislink.com (Irispen 3.0 1997 OCR pen scanner is the
hardware in question) wouldn't try to get me a new diskette.




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BachMozart ReaganQuayle EvrytanoKastorian
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/vjp2/vasos.htm
---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}---
[Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy obstructive guards]
[Fooey on GIU,{MS,X}Windows 4 Bimbos] [Cigar smoke belongs in veg food group]

 

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On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 05:05:09 +0000 (UTC),
vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com put finger to keyboard and
composed:

>I'm baffled. I never had anything like this before.
>
>But Norton did get the files back, without names.
>(ie with $ in the names for unknown characters)

It sounds like your directory structure was damaged, or simply that
the files had been deleted. In the latter case the first character of
the 8.3 name of a deleted file would have been replaced with an "E5"
byte. Otherwise, if a recovered file has more than one unknown
character, then I'd suspect there was a problem with the directory.

FYI, you can view the first sector of the root directory using Debug
as follows (I'm assuming there are two 9-sector FATs):

C:\WINDOWS>debug
-L 100 0 13 1
-d 100 2ff

<sector dump appears here>

-q

I'd use Norton Disk Doctor as a last resort. I've experienced cases
where it has trashed an otherwise recoverable diskette. If you're not
comfortable with Debug, I'd use Norton's Diskedit to view the
structure of the diskette. Try the debug routine on your
write-protected cloned copy.

BTW, you may have been able to use the DOS Diskcopy command to
duplicate your diskette.

>I can't believe irislink.com (Irispen 3.0 1997 OCR pen scanner is the
>hardware in question) wouldn't try to get me a new diskette.

I share your annoyance. OK, so the product is 8 years old, but how
much shelf space does a diskette occupy? Surely IRIS wouldn't toss out
their old IP? Then again, maybe the latest software is backward
compatible?

-- Franc Zabkar

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