News Former SK hynix employee charged with stealing tech for Huawei — Chinese national was arrested at airport

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Chinese national stealing ip?!?

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in today's IT environments 6 reams of printer paper will draw a competent IT staffs attention.

Coworkers should have noticed that much printing.

It seems like in an environment so secure tht USB use is not allowed that the print jobs required to print those reams should have triggered an automated alert. Seems more likely that the print orders were discovered after a tip that caused her user specific user activity to be investigated. Based on the timeline the "tip" was probably her subsequent employment at Huawei and not some crack investigative work. Commercial companies are not prepared to face superpower-level nation-state espionage efforts.

Hope it is worth the years in prison

The CCP will kidnap an innocent businessman for use in a "spy trade" in short order. I doubt she sees much time in prison.

Free trade needs to be with Free countries.
 
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There are so many more ways to take such information covetly instead of this idiotic 10 pounds of paper theft...

The better ways were probably covered by the existing security protocols.

There are better ways to leave a prison than by breaking into the sewers and crawling out the drains but they are not easier to access for the inmates.
 
The better ways were probably covered by the existing security protocols.

There are better ways to leave a prison than by breaking into the sewers and crawling out the drains but they are not easier to access for the inmates.
Assuming they allow phones into the building, they could have saved the documents as a PDF and put it on their phone. If the PC that they worked on had SD card slots, they could have snuck one into the facility on her phone and copied the information to that card. There are so many ways much more under the radar than the above that could have been used to do this...
 

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Assuming they allow phones into the building, they could have saved the documents as a PDF and put it on their phone. If the PC that they worked on had SD card slots, they could have snuck one into the facility on her phone and copied the information to that card. There are so many ways much more under the radar than the above that could have been used to do this...
Some high security places do not allow phones and if they do some phone are managed by the company and are gimped so they can't install apps. They have system to detect large data downloads as well or mass printing. There are whole departments dedicated to watching out for all of these things. PCs will have mass storage disabled or USB disabled entirely. He got caught so I am sure they were waiting to see where he was going and he was already flagged.
 
The details on this are strange since it appears there were 2 years between when she did it and when she was arrested. I wonder why they think she physically took the paper out of the country. Would be much less suspicious to take photos of every page and transfer it out with say dropbox or something.

Huawei has done this crap for years. Where I used to work you could only look at certain documents in special rooms and take nothing in or out. One guy got caught because he would go out to his car immediately after and write thing down from memory. The FBI discovered he was also a current employee of huawei when they looked at tax and visa records.
 

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South Korea needs to go one step further and ban all Huawei products and bar any South Korean company from doing business with them. I don't know why anyone is still allowing these Chinese companies to do business when they've been robbing everyone blind for decades.
 
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This woman is charged and not indicted so let's go at that first but I doubt that these charges would stick. 1) This person thinks looks like she specializes in fixing defects in semiconductors, what kind of IP did she stole? Maybe she knows the process of how to fix these issues and it is not IP related. More Importantly 2) If this person thinks that she commited a crime, then why does she voluntarily fly to South Korea 2 years after she quit working for Hynix? It is just too fishy to me.
 

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This woman is charged and not indicted so let's go at that first but I doubt that these charges would stick. 1) This person thinks looks like she specializes in fixing defects in semiconductors, what kind of IP did she stole? Maybe she knows the process of how to fix these issues and it is not IP related. More Importantly 2) If this person thinks that she commited a crime, then why does she voluntarily fly to South Korea 2 years after she quit working for Hynix? It is just too fishy to me

It looks like she was a QA, so it wasn't her that Huawei was after, but her "access" to Samsung's IP, or 3,000 pages printed.

As for her return, it's most likely she wasn't aware that the SK authority was after her. Besides, it's extremely difficult to catch and convict IP theft in South Korea due to their lax prosecution and punishment: only 1 in 8 such cases ends up in conviction with no more than a couple of years in prison sentence.
 

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If this person thinks that she commited a crime, then why does she voluntarily fly to South Korea 2 years after she quit working for Hynix? It is just too fishy to me.

Why does a bank robber go to a second bank after successfully stealing from the first?

Also, she is a member of an organized effort targeting Korean IP. Her returning was not an individual choice but a strategic decsion by a nation-state intelligence gathering group. Treating these situations as individual criminal cases leads to totally inadequate responses.
 
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Why does a bank robber go to a second bank after successfully stealing from the first?

Also, she is a member of an organized effort targeting Korean IP. Her returning was not an individual choice but a strategic decsion by a nation-state intelligence gathering group. Treating these situations as individual criminal cases leads to totally inadequate responses.
Going to the 2nd bank after stealing from the first is such a dumb analogy. For one thing, she wasn't working at Hynix at the time of her arrest so how could she 'steal' when she no longer works for Hynix? Second, the article didn't mention it but she could be very well working for Hynix in China so she probably could've probably printed out all those pages of 'IP theft' in China.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/04/chi...tled-us-workers-counterintelligence-head.html

It is also equally as dumb that Chinese state would use a Chinese National to steal 'state secrets' when they can target non-chinese disgruntled and debt stricken workers in those countries.