Discussion Forum's DOWN VOTE button feature. **Need your opinion**.

Hello @-all,

I just need your opinion and thoughts on one forum software feature. What do you guys think about the DOWN vote button option which is there on the left side of each reply made over here, under all TECH forum topics ?

Is it GOOD or BAD ? I'm asking this, because in my opinion, there shouldn't be any down-vote option to begin with.

The reason is simple. Let's face it. Not everyone is well-versed with stuff related to PC, Hardware, Software etc, including MYSELF. Also, not everybody has the capacity, knowledge or caliber to post correct and accurate technical replies and suggestions. So suppose if you down-vote any reply or comment, it MIGHT make the original poster feel bad, and it is also embarrassing, at least IMO.

I mean, like I mentioned above, down voting any reply/comment might also demoralize the poster, if he/she notices it. Sometimes even by mistake someone can also post a misleading answer/solution, so I think down-voting is not the right way to correct the OP.

Instead of that, I think we can always QUOTE and correct the OP's comment, if he/she has posted some dangerously misleading answer., or some misinformation This way, nobody is going to feel bad, and maybe the poster will also realize his/her mistake ?? This is way much better, if you ask my honest opinion.

I think this feature should be disabled via the Forum Software, because down-voting can be a bit awkward for everyone. I could be wrong though.

But anyways, this is just my personal opinion and thoughts on this DOWN VOTE feature. If TOM's HW feels having this option is right, then no worries at all. DISQUS software has disabled this feature though, because people were misusing it.

But obviously, TOM's HW forums are different, and there must be a reason why this option is there in the first place. I just wanted to share my thoughts. But, what do you guys think about all this ? Am I right, or Wrong ? LIKES, UP-votes and Best answers are obviously always good and healthy for everyone, lol.

Cheers, NICK. Obviously, I cannot down vote myself, but just an example. I've NEVER down voted anyone though.

 
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I disagree.

I have seen some people giving bad advice, and im guilty of this aswell. You dont want someone to get bad advice and go do something that could cause damage to their pc.

The downvote is usefull. Say 2 people say different things. If one has a bunch of upvotes and the other has a bunch of downvotes, it is easy for the op to know which answer is best.
 
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AllanGH

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I RARELY downvote a post.

IMHO, if a poster is overtly rude or blatantly avoids trying to fix the problem his- or her- self, with something as easy to do as a web search, then asks for step-by-step instructions on how to do something that they could have found with the web search they weere too lazy to do on their own; then, yeah, the post does merit a downvote. But, like I said, I do rarely downvote a post, even for those reasons.

As to feeling guilty....guilt has its place.

If you are rude to a community that is only trying to lend assistance, or you are too lazy to at least make the attempt to search-up your own solutions and are expecting others to do it for you?

You definitely need some healthy guilt to motivate you to change your behaviour.

As compared to the "good-old days" the Internet has become a LOT softer and gutless in dealing with people like that....just my own personal opinion.
 
Usually i think a downvote and a message explaining why they downvoted is very usefull.

I have learned a lot from this. For example, I am happy when i suggest something and someone downvotes it and says "that has xyz fatal problems, but heres an alternative." Now i learned something new.
 
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Q: "I'm looking at this DDR4 RAM. Can I use it with my current i7-2600k system?"
A: "Yes, it will work. DDR4 is just faster!"
(and I've seen pretty much that exact Q and A)


That gets a specific downvote. Because it is factually incorrect, and some random new person will come across that answer a year from now, and think it is right.
 

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Because it is factually incorrect, and some random new person will come across that answer a year from now, and think it is right.
Naturally, I would assume that the factually incorrect answer is followed-up with correct information, otherwise the act of downvoting is pretty-much a half-step in the direction of a solution.

But, yeah, I see what you're saying.
 
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The reason is simple. Let's face it. Not everyone is well-versed with stuff related to PC, Hardware, Software etc, including MYSELF. Also, not everybody has the capacity, knowledge or caliber to post correct and accurate technical replies and suggestions. So suppose if you down-vote any reply or comment, it MIGHT make the original poster feel bad, and it is also embarrassing, at least IMO.
No one is required to reply to a question. If someone doesn't know the answer then they shouldn't pretend to. If someone is replying to questions without regard to whether they actually know what they're talking about (or simply that they've read the OP properly in some cases) not only is that not helpful, it can actually be harmful.

Now it's one thing if someone couches their answer with something to the effect of "I'm not sure, but I think ...". I don't think I'd ever downvote that. But if they give an answer that is phrased as if they're certain but is actually incorrect then a downvote is not undeserved IMO. Particularly if their advice could be detrimental if followed, or if they're actively disagreeing with correct advice others have given.

I agree with what's been said above, that if I downvote someone for posting incorrect info I'll either try to post the correct info myself or upvote whoever did already.
 
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Naturally, I would assume that the factually incorrect answer is followed-up with correct information, otherwise the act of downvoting is pretty-much a half-step in the direction of a solution.

But, yeah, I see what you're saying.
Yes, factual info to follow that downvote.

And I've even seen the "Best Answer" awarded to a completely incorrect answer, because that's what fit in the querants original mindset.
Far too many of those.

Downvote and Unselect the erroneous BA.
 
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No one is required to reply to a question. If someone doesn't know the answer then they shouldn't pretend to
Yes, obviously that's true. But I was trying to convey some other thing. There is no compulsion to post a reply, but suppose if someone does know the answer, even though it might not be 100% correct, then in this case down-voting his reply makes little sense, imo.

If someone is replying to questions without regard to whether they actually know what they're talking about (or simply that they've read the OP properly in some cases) not only is that not helpful, it can actually be harmful.
I agree on this point though. But some of my points aren't very clear. I will make some additions in my OP.
 
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...and I see that I totally misunderstood the original intent, and responded as though the down-voting was applied to the OP instead of to the replies to the OP.

Feel free to downvote me for my earlier bone-headedness.

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Although, there are some OPs who need a good slap upside the head for being lazy and rude.
(Definitely not MM, though.....just to make that clear.)
 
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I have one more suggestion.

How about giving the OP an ALERT or notification of some sort, so that he know what all answers have been down voted and UP voted ?? The OP in this case is the original poster, who has started the thread/topic, not others.

Suppose within any given thread, there are 4 replies, and out of that two of the suggestions get a down vote, and one gets an UP-Vote, then it would better if the OP is notified about this, so that he can mark that up-voted answer as BEST.
 
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i know that if you answer a question and that answer is upvoted, you get a alert. I don't start enough posts to know what op gets apart from a notification for any replies in threads they start. Notifications aren't very clever, you just as likely to get swamped in messages about every upvote/downvote instead of just 1 uptodate message

CM look at these threads, they might use idea... I can't read their minds (would be useful)
 

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When I am an OP, I would absolutely, positively not want to get notifications regarding what was up or down voted on messages not generated by me. That's not relevant in any way to me.

Not that I expect anything to change, nor am I asking for it to, but I hate up/down voting (whatever it's called, it's still essentially yet another version of like/dislike) and even best answer.

The only way to be sure you're getting the full picture in any topic is to read it through from oldest (original) post to newest, paying attention to the back and forth about discrepancies along the way. Relying on how much a given post is up/down voted is not a reliable gauge, in my experience, of evaluating something in context. There are often bouts of irrational exuberance or denigration regarding certain ideas, both of which are equally invalid. It doesn't take much effort to read through a topic, and in general, "the truth will out," and you get to see exactly how and why.
 

Colif

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We have had, in the past, users who downvote everyone else in thread except their answer... so yeah, what is upvoted the most is more of a suggestion than the actual truth.

Some of the answers are so dangerous to the person asking question that posts will get downvoted to indicate this isn't the right thing to do. There is no dislike button so downvote is only way to show that one answer may not be the best choice. Mods don't delete wrong answers, we try to tell them why they are wrong. And leave the answers up as examples.

You expect people to read everything and not just the headlines? You have high expectations. :)

It would be nice though as I have seen 2 page long threads where same things keep being suggested.
 

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I know, I'm weird. I expect that if something is important enough that you're seeking outside assistance to cure it that you might want to take the time to determine what the general consensus is, when many options are presented, rather than running with the first, then running with the second, . . . possibly breaking things along the way and making the ultimate fix more difficult.

Any time I see "fast and furious" reaction on a topic (even if reading it long after it was fresh) my first inclination is to read through it because there's almost certainly going to be some bad advice that's being refuted. My personal experience shows that there is a certain bad-advice-giving contingent that will fight to the death, insisting they're right, regardless of what a raft of subject matter experts say.

I'm such a fool!
 

Gam3r01

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The downvote button has to exist for situations like users recommending 4 pin molex to 8 pin EPS adapters, and claiming they are perfectly "Safe" because they are on the market.
Given the up/down vote system for automatic BA selection as well, it needs to be there.

However, I believe a follow up answer to refute the downvoted one should be included. If you cant back up why you downvote, then you shouldnt do it.
 

boju

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Regarding incorrect ba's and if the deserving answer doesn't make it to five votes, what if the thread & answer could be flagged for eventual review? Perhaps the guys solving old threads could have a look when they're not too busy?

There'd probably be potential for abuse i guess if anyone could flag and clog the notification inbox for those concerned. Maybe might help minimise inappropriate flaggings if a message is required before submitting and an rank requirement.
 

Colif

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Most questionable best answers are reported or bought to our attention now. We can't get all of them but while there are sure to be some, i think the majority marked as solved are probably pretty good.
 

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