FPS drop but ....

deluxecbk

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hey there ,

I get major low fps' when I play games

phenom II 965
4870 1gb
650W
m4a77td pro


When I play games I get super low FPS' and then...believe it or not... I have to run Speccy (www.piriform.com) in order to get my smoothness back.... why the hell!?!?!?

its been doing this recently for no apparent reason

any explanation about what Speccy fixes?? or what the actual problem is ??


thanks alot
 
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It shows more then the built in performance monitor. IF you find the tool useful - that will depend on your knowledge and ability to use the tool effectively. Its pretty straight forward though, but if you have any questions just ask.

on anther note: without specy I'd still check to see if the CPU (while the game is running) is not being down clocked. Even with Cool'n'quite disabled, I have seen where it really isn't disabled.

Also check power settings - make sure its not set to balanced. Speccy may be pushing the CPU to its rated speed, thus giving you the performance you expect. - Try updating the bios just in case Cool'n'quite is part of the problem.

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There shouldn't be any relation to Speccy and your PC's performance at all. Speccy just basically tells you what hardware components your PC has.

When your PC is giving low FPS, what CPU % is being used? It sounds almost like your PC is locking up somewhere due to programs running in the background.

Have you overclocked anything at all?
When you say low FPS - How low?
What games are you playing where you experience this?
What RAM are you using?
What PSU are you using?
 

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I'm well aware that Speccy shouldn't affect my pc's performance but it does ... lol

I play bc2 , cod4 , mw2 etc ... exemple on cod4 i used to get 250 constant now I barely get 150 and when speccy is on I go back to 250...weird huh?

I did use the turbo program from AMD to overclock my pc but I put it back to normal (3400mhz) multiplier x17.

I play at 1920x1080

ram: G-SKILLS 4gb DDR3 1333

psu: corsair 650W


I honestly thought it was my video card but it isn't ... it runs at 60 on load and sits at 35-40ishes.. nothing is running hot..


My graphics are super choppy.... then I open Speccy and its smooth again...I know it makes no sense but there is a link somewhere , but what?
 

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vsync is an in-game setting that basically caps your frame rate, at your monitors refresh rate (Hz).

Usually Full HD monitors have 60 Hz refresh rate, giving a nice clean image (old CRT monitors used to flicker and flash, this was because the refresh rate was lower). 3D Monitors have a 120Hz refresh rate.

It may seem mad capping your FPS at 60, but the human eye cant tell any difference between 60, and 600 fps on a 60Hz monitor. Capping the game at a constant 60fps should give an optimal image with no lag in fps or choppy frames.

This might help to explain it a little better: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_tearing

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This wont help explain why your FPS suddenly jumps and changes when your running Speccy, but it should help eliminate any screen tearing or choppy feeling when playing COD4. (If your playing online, internet connection/lag/latency could be causing the frame rate issues - it might not be down to your system at all, but down to the server your playing on).
 

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What if its constant then? what's the issue?

Also , I tried lowering my resolution to see if it would be more smooth but not at all , even at the lower res the video still chops.

I really feel like somethin is eating up my ressources
 

AdrianPerry

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If its constantly at the same FPS, there will be no jumps or big dips in frame rate which should eliminate screen tearing and choppy images.

When you get these choppy images are you playing online? or single player? What happens when the fps drops? Are there suddenly any big explosions or changes in the game that might cause the fps to drop?

 

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Your right, it doesn't but I'm struggling to understand what the issue is. Playing at 250fps, or playing at 125 fps will look exactly the same. What are you using to measure FPS, FRAPS? When does it show 250fps? When does it show 125 fps?

It might be worth trying to completely un-install SPECCY if that's what's causing issues.

Go onto your start menu, right click my computer and click manage. Go to device manager and check there's no driver errors/conflicts ect shown there (usually shown by a yellow question mark or exclamation mark).

Make sure your graphics card drivers are up to date (download the latest from manufacturer website), and make sure Call of Duty is patched up to date as well.
 

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My pc as been up and running for 2 years - been playing perfectly ever since

I know the eye doesn'T make the diff between 60 and 600 fps but i'm trying to fix the issue here.

I use the in-game fps counter to show my fps... cod4 for exemple used to run at 250 constant , now it never gets above 150 and it jumps like crazy.

Uninstalling Speccy doesn't help , but having it open while playing fixes ALL issues and i'm back to 250... o_O

There is no virus involved either , no driver issues and no device working bad. I rolled back gpu drivers --- I tried all 4 previous versions and still the same...

When my PC sits there I know 1.30GB of RAM is already being used , dunno if that's normal though.

Using Windows 7 64bit.


***EDIT***

weather its online or single player it does it.
 

deluxecbk

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... cod4 is a joke of a game and yes I get 250 constant .... did I say I played on everything cranked all the way up?

watch your tone

Also , regarding driver issue , I tried rolling back because my drivers were up-to-date to see if the new drivers were the issue..


 

AdrianPerry

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Bizzare issue, without sitting at the PC myself and seeing exactly what the issue is, I really dont know how to trouble shoot this down other than un-install unnecessary programs and update all games and drivers.

Running a program, especially one such as speccy that effectively does nothing at all, should have no impact what so ever. Google might end up being your most useful tool here, or the speccy forums (if they have one), or if not, maybe Speccy support and see if they can shed any light on the issue.
 

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yup I know man , I know speccy does nothing but tell you actual specs n temps , i'm just as amazed as you are but it does settle my fps back to normal
 

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In all honesty , I went in msconfig and turned off all programs at the boot and it still did the same thing.

I did on the other hand try to enable them all --- still the same

I then tried to turn all of them off besides the AMD/ATI utilities --- still the same


I also only tried to turn off my anti-virus ; avast.

Still the same

What I will do tonight when I get home from work --- I will try to install the games on xp (I am dual booted) and see how it performs.

if it performs fine , then its my setings/progs on windows 7

I am out of ideas , the fact that running speccy in the background stabilizes my fps and brings it back to normal is beyond me
 

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LOL this is turning in to a good read.

Deluxe - If its not effecting your gameplay I dont see what the massive issue is? What temp is everything running at when this drop in FPS happens? If its really bothering you that much back everything up and reinstall windows and all software.
 

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in cod4 it's not that bad ... it was just being a reference... cod4 isn't the actual issue ... bit 123 or w/e is name is mislead you into his non sense.

mw2 for exemple is locked at 90 FPS default , I beleive? and it must drop to like 30-40's ---- This is noticeable and it makes the game unplayable because it is unstable
 

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Was the problem call of duty 4 or the FPS drops????????

Was posting benchmarks on a system/settings different than mine useful?? Nope.

Why does running speccy in the background help? No clue , fil me in.
 

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Aida its happening with a lot of games.

Cant see it being a damaged DVD drive as it probably wouldnt read the disc all that well and crash it. Damaged HDD, well you could check event logs to see if there is anything in there?
 

AdrianPerry

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I tell you what pal go ********* know it all.
i am very tired and put hours of dedication into helping people here on Toms Hardware when i get the time.
your just a low life inconsiderate *******.

Id edit out the language from your previous post. But I agree your right. Some people can be inconsiderate when others put in time to help them.