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What is it about FPS games and dungeons? Are there any FPS games out
there with a lot of outdoor setting? Say, like in a jungle, running on
swamps, urban fighting dodging snipers and jumping from one cover to
another.

Call of Duty and Medal of Honor are the only 2 I know so far. What
about Halo? The screenshots I saw were all in the outdoor setting.
 
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Riddick wrote:
> What is it about FPS games and dungeons? Are there any FPS games out
> there with a lot of outdoor setting? Say, like in a jungle, running
on
> swamps, urban fighting dodging snipers and jumping from one cover to
> another.
>
> Call of Duty and Medal of Honor are the only 2 I know so far. What
> about Halo? The screenshots I saw were all in the outdoor setting.

Far Cry is mostly outdoors.

The reason for the "underground bunker" type of settings is that you
can much more easily limit two things:

1) The distances that the graphics card has to draw and calculate
visibility and lighting effects for. This makes it possible to play the
game on lower spec PCs.

2) The available options for the player. You can control what the
player sees and where he goes. Much easier to design the maps.

In addition, there is much more opportunity for complex weather effects
outdoors (including the effect of the weather on the environment eg.
wind blowing grass) and whilst you can have 100% straight and solid
walls indoors, natural features outdoors are more varied and organic.
To do all this requires more coding and decent hardware to run it.

In short, underground levels are easier to create and will run on more
hardware configurations (= more sales).
 
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Riddick wrote:
> What is it about FPS games and dungeons? Are there any FPS games out
> there with a lot of outdoor setting? Say, like in a jungle, running
on
> swamps, urban fighting dodging snipers and jumping from one cover to
> another.
>
> Call of Duty and Medal of Honor are the only 2 I know so far. What
> about Halo? The screenshots I saw were all in the outdoor setting.

Halo , Serious Sam , Far Cry , Half Life 2 , Breed , Postal 2 ,

Postal 2 is the only game I have ever seen that has some type of " one
thing leads to another " programming , where you can start off a chain
reaction of events through your behavior.
I'm not talking about the story, I'm talking about chain reaction in
the way of fighting with the characters.
All Hell can break loose in that game.


I also like how in Postal 2 there are no locked doors , and how when
you enter someone's home if they get away from you they will try to
find a cop and bring the cop back to the house , I actually got away
before that happened once , and when I looked back , the women had a
cop and was telling him ,
" he's in there " or something like that , then I think the cop kicked
the door in to try and find me but I was long gone by then LOL.

It's also fun when a cop tells you to throw down your weapon , then
when you do the cop comes over to arrest you , that's about the time I
pull out my second weapon LOL

You can also dress up like a cop and abuse people on the street , they
will yell " police brutality ! " Or something like that :)

You can do a lot of nasty stuff in that game.
You can also make people beg on their knees for their lives LOL

It's good family fun. A good game for kids.

It's a comedy game , it's not just about fighting the law.
It's also about exposing yourself to strangers and peeing on them ,
making them vomit , then setting them on fire.

It's fun for all ages.
 
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DarkWolf wrote:
> Project IGI 1&2, unlimited outdoors.


Good call. Except for the impossible last level of IGI1.

Anyone ever reach the edge of an IGI map?
 
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On 21 Apr 2005 02:39:32 -0700, "Riddick" <chromallly@yahoo.com> wrote:

>What is it about FPS games and dungeons? Are there any FPS games out
>there with a lot of outdoor setting? Say, like in a jungle, running on
>swamps, urban fighting dodging snipers and jumping from one cover to
>another.
>
>Call of Duty and Medal of Honor are the only 2 I know so far. What
>about Halo? The screenshots I saw were all in the outdoor setting.

Far Cry definitely. The outdoor environments and mission freedom made
this my all time favorite game.
You also might like the Nova Logic Delta Force games.
 
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> Nobody mentioned Tribes and Tribes 2? Even on the CTF maps with large
> fortresses, there are HUGE areas between that can range from flat plains
> or
> deserts to jagged mountains. On most maps, you can't even see the enemy
> fort from your own.
>
> (I haven't played Tribes: Vengeance so I wouldn't know from that)

Yes, T:V has a good mix of outdoor and indoor levels.

Just picked up Chrome from '03. Pales in comparison to today's games, but it
was a European forerunner to games like Far Cry. Not as good gameplay, but
the outdoor stuff sure is purty for DX8 stuff.

Jedi Knight II had some good sci-fi-ish outdoor levels.

- f_f
 
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On 21 Apr 2005 02:39:32 -0700, "Riddick" <chromallly@yahoo.com> wrote:

>What is it about FPS games and dungeons? Are there any FPS games out
>there with a lot of outdoor setting? Say, like in a jungle, running on
>swamps, urban fighting dodging snipers and jumping from one cover to
>another.

Vietcong does jungle/swamps superbly.

You may like Far Cry, but it hasn't got anywhere close to the
atmosphere of Vietcong.
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Riddick wrote:
> What is it about FPS games and dungeons? Are there any FPS games out
> there with a lot of outdoor setting?

Far Cry and Vietcong would be the two stand-out titles
in that sub-genre, I reckon.

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back soup in a deli."
 
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On 21 Apr 2005 02:39:32 -0700, "Riddick" <chromallly@yahoo.com> wrote:

>What is it about FPS games and dungeons? Are there any FPS games out
>there with a lot of outdoor setting? Say, like in a jungle, running on
>swamps, urban fighting dodging snipers and jumping from one cover to
>another.
>
>Call of Duty and Medal of Honor are the only 2 I know so far. What
>about Halo? The screenshots I saw were all in the outdoor setting.

Soldier of Fortune 1 & 2 - 2 has outdoor settings although it might
not be type of game you're looking for.. Ditto for No One Lives
Forever 1 & 2

toadie
 
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Riddick a écrit :
> What is it about FPS games and dungeons? Are there any FPS games out
> there with a lot of outdoor setting? Say, like in a jungle, running on
> swamps, urban fighting dodging snipers and jumping from one cover to
> another.
>
> Call of Duty and Medal of Honor are the only 2 I know so far. What
> about Halo? The screenshots I saw were all in the outdoor setting.

Project IGI 1&2, unlimited outdoors.

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On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:14:18 -0500, "faster_framerates"
<nothanks@nowhere.net> wrote:


>Just picked up Chrome from '03. Pales in comparison to today's games, but it
>was a European forerunner to games like Far Cry. Not as good gameplay, but
>the outdoor stuff sure is purty for DX8 stuff.

I was just about to ask about Chrome. The below review gives it an
overall rating of 9 out of 10 so I put it on my buy list. I wasn't
overly impressed by FarCry but it was ok so maybe I won't really like
Chrome all that much. Might be a game for the OP though. I prefer more
tactical and stealth type shoooters.

http://pc.boomtown.net/en_uk/articles/art.view.php?id=3603
 
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Try "Farcry".

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"Riddick" <chromallly@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> What is it about FPS games and dungeons? Are there any FPS games out
> there with a lot of outdoor setting? Say, like in a jungle, running on
> swamps, urban fighting dodging snipers and jumping from one cover to
> another.
>
> Call of Duty and Medal of Honor are the only 2 I know so far. What
> about Halo? The screenshots I saw were all in the outdoor setting.
>
 
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On 21 Apr 2005 02:39:32 -0700, Riddick <chromallly@yahoo.com> wrote:
: What is it about FPS games and dungeons? Are there any FPS games out
: there with a lot of outdoor setting? Say, like in a jungle, running on
: swamps, urban fighting dodging snipers and jumping from one cover to
: another.
:
: Call of Duty and Medal of Honor are the only 2 I know so far. What
: about Halo? The screenshots I saw were all in the outdoor setting.


BF 1942, but maybe you're aware of that already if you're on COD and
MOH.
 
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> I was just about to ask about Chrome. The below review gives it an
> overall rating of 9 out of 10 so I put it on my buy list. I wasn't
> overly impressed by FarCry but it was ok so maybe I won't really like
> Chrome all that much. Might be a game for the OP though. I prefer more
> tactical and stealth type shoooters.
>
> http://pc.boomtown.net/en_uk/articles/art.view.php?id=3603

I've only started the first mission. Btw, it's the same one as the demo,
which you can snag at:

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/chrome/downloads.html

GameSpot gave it a 7.2.

You supposedly get implants that will enhance your abilities later in the
game, ala SS2, Deus Ex and NOLF2. I also like the fact that you have to
search bodies for ammo and health. Simply running over "pick ups" seems too
easy and goofy to me, but it seems to have become a convention in the FPS
genre. In twitch-shooter games like Serious Sam or Painkiller it makes
sense, simply b/c the games are insanely fast-paced, but sci-fi and
survival/horror should have more scavenging, imo. Increases the immersion
factor.

Anyway, I got it cheap off of Amazon (along with Nosferatu and The Thing).
Runs like a top on an average rig.

- f_f
 
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On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:47:26 GMT, Andrew <spamtrap@localhost.> wrote:

>On 21 Apr 2005 02:39:32 -0700, "Riddick" <chromallly@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>What is it about FPS games and dungeons? Are there any FPS games out
>>there with a lot of outdoor setting? Say, like in a jungle, running on
>>swamps, urban fighting dodging snipers and jumping from one cover to
>>another.
>
>Vietcong does jungle/swamps superbly.
>
>You may like Far Cry, but it hasn't got anywhere close to the
>atmosphere of Vietcong.

I hated VC. The graphics are second rate and your own squad's AI was
horrible. They follow you into a trench or tunnel that's a dead end
and nobody is smart enough to turn around and leave or get out of your
way so you can lead them out.
I can remember at least 3 times where I had to reload a previous save
because I was stuck between a dead end and my squad.

The jungle enviroments aren't bad considering the limited graphics,
but I consider FarCry a MUCH better game overall.


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On 21 Apr 2005 06:50:21 -0700, "Chadwick" <chadwick110@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>DarkWolf wrote:
>> Project IGI 1&2, unlimited outdoors.
>
>
>Good call. Except for the impossible last level of IGI1.

The first level doesn't allow the player to go beyond the boundries of the
perimeter fence. At least not without creativity... :)

>Anyone ever reach the edge of an IGI map?

There's been attemptes to use the map to scroll all the way to the world's
edge... I got bored after a few minutes.
 
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To compare Halo and call it outdoors in the same breath as Far Cry is a poor
joke. Halo's "outdoor levels" are all canyons with a few trees and bushes
thrown in. Halo isn't even in the same league as BF:Vietnam or Far Cry
unless you're blind...

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> Riddick wrote:
>> What is it about FPS games and dungeons? Are there any FPS games out
>> there with a lot of outdoor setting? Say, like in a jungle, running
> on
>> swamps, urban fighting dodging snipers and jumping from one cover to
>> another.
>>
>> Call of Duty and Medal of Honor are the only 2 I know so far. What
>> about Halo? The screenshots I saw were all in the outdoor setting.
>
> Halo , Serious Sam , Far Cry , Half Life 2 , Breed , Postal 2 ,
>
> Postal 2 is the only game I have ever seen that has some type of " one
> thing leads to another " programming , where you can start off a chain
> reaction of events through your behavior.
> I'm not talking about the story, I'm talking about chain reaction in
> the way of fighting with the characters.
> All Hell can break loose in that game.
>
>
> I also like how in Postal 2 there are no locked doors , and how when
> you enter someone's home if they get away from you they will try to
> find a cop and bring the cop back to the house , I actually got away
> before that happened once , and when I looked back , the women had a
> cop and was telling him ,
> " he's in there " or something like that , then I think the cop kicked
> the door in to try and find me but I was long gone by then LOL.
>
> It's also fun when a cop tells you to throw down your weapon , then
> when you do the cop comes over to arrest you , that's about the time I
> pull out my second weapon LOL
>
> You can also dress up like a cop and abuse people on the street , they
> will yell " police brutality ! " Or something like that :)
>
> You can do a lot of nasty stuff in that game.
> You can also make people beg on their knees for their lives LOL
>
> It's good family fun. A good game for kids.
>
> It's a comedy game , it's not just about fighting the law.
> It's also about exposing yourself to strangers and peeing on them ,
> making them vomit , then setting them on fire.
>
> It's fun for all ages.
>
 
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"Riddick" <chromallly@yahoo.com> once tried to test me with:

> What is it about FPS games and dungeons? Are there any FPS games out
> there with a lot of outdoor setting? Say, like in a jungle, running on
> swamps, urban fighting dodging snipers and jumping from one cover to
> another.
>
> Call of Duty and Medal of Honor are the only 2 I know so far. What
> about Halo? The screenshots I saw were all in the outdoor setting.

One that no one has yet mentioned is Men of Valor, which is a vietnam
themed shooter. Also from what I've read UT2004 has some big outdoor maps.
You might like to try Morrowind, which is an RPG with a vast outdoor area,
but it's not a shooter.


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On 22 Apr 2005 01:35:10 GMT, Knight37 <knight37m@email.com> wrote:

>
>One that no one has yet mentioned is Men of Valor, which is a vietnam
>themed shooter. Also from what I've read UT2004 has some big outdoor maps.
>You might like to try Morrowind, which is an RPG with a vast outdoor area,
>but it's not a shooter.

Men of Valor is a corridor shooter that just looks like it takes place
outdorrs. If you've got a 12" berm in front of you, you can't climb
over it. You need to find a way around it. A friend of mine gave it go
me after he finished his. I couldn't be bothered to play past the
first few levels.


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On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 00:21:28 -0700, "Doug" <pigdos@nospamcharter.net>
wrote:

>To compare Halo and call it outdoors in the same breath as Far Cry is a poor
>joke. Halo's "outdoor levels" are all canyons with a few trees and bushes
>thrown in. Halo isn't even in the same league as BF:Vietnam or Far Cry
>unless you're blind...

Graphically FC is streets ahead of Halo, but I enjoyed playing Halo a
hell of a lot more. I wish more of it had been outdoor levels though,
they were the most enjoyable parts for me.
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On 21 Apr 2005 02:39:32 -0700, "Riddick" <chromallly@yahoo.com> wrote:

>What is it about FPS games and dungeons? Are there any FPS games out
>there with a lot of outdoor setting?

Operation Flashpoint.

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"Chadwick" <chadwick110@hotmail.com> wrote:
>DarkWolf wrote:
>> Project IGI 1&2, unlimited outdoors.
>
>
>Good call. Except for the impossible last level of IGI1.
>
>Anyone ever reach the edge of an IGI map?

I remember the doomed EDF Project X-Com remake. It was going to have
planet sized maps hahahaha.
 
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On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:04:41 -0500, "faster_framerates"
<nothanks@nowhere.net> wrote:


>http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/chrome/downloafds.html

I don't download demos because my ISP caps me at 10gb down per month.
Plus Gamespot wants all my personal info before I can even download
it. Screw that.

>GameSpot gave it a 7.2.

That's a big difference of 9/10 from Boomtown.

>You supposedly get implants that will enhance your abilities later in the
>game, ala SS2, Deus Ex and NOLF2. I also like the fact that you have to
>search bodies for ammo and health. Simply running over "pick ups" seems too
>easy and goofy to me, but it seems to have become a convention in the FPS
>genre. In twitch-shooter games like Serious Sam or Painkiller it makes
>sense, simply b/c the games are insanely fast-paced, but sci-fi and
>survival/horror should have more scavenging, imo. Increases the immersion
>factor.
>
>Anyway, I got it cheap off of Amazon (along with Nosferatu and The Thing).
>Runs like a top on an average rig.
>
>- f_f
>
Is your impression favourable?
 
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On 22 Apr 2005 01:35:10 GMT, Knight37 <knight37m@email.com> wrote:


>One that no one has yet mentioned is Men of Valor, which is a vietnam
>themed shooter. Also from what I've read UT2004 has some big outdoor maps.
>You might like to try Morrowind, which is an RPG with a vast outdoor area,
>but it's not a shooter.

Also Morrowind is fogged in about 20ft all around you.
 
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On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 05:02:17 GMT, Jeff Holinski
<nospam_Holinski@shaw.ca> wrote:


>Men of Valor is a corridor shooter that just looks like it takes place
>outdorrs.

That's how I feel about FarCry's Islands. Well, OK, it usally has two
different corridors you can take but you are still sort of fenced in,
except when on the water. Joint Ops is my pick for open terrain but
that is MP only.
 
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