FPS problems in Forza Horizon 3

[Bamse]

Heyho! Recently bought myself a 8320 and an ASUS Strix 1060 6GB, was looking forward to playing all these new games on high settings with decent FPS. Installed the parts, booted up, did a little overclocking on the CPU (sitting stable at 4.3Ghz) and started Forza, maxed everything and got disappointed. Sat at around 30-40 fps and decided to lower the settings to high, restarted the game and realized the fps was exactly the same. At that moment I was like "wtf is going on?". So I lowered the settings even more, this time to medium and exactly the same fps as before, started to get really annoyed and came here for help 🙁

Specs:
Mobo: Asus M5A78L (By now I know this doesn't have the power for an 8320, therefore I only use 4 cores instead)
CPU: FX-8320 @4.3Ghz
GPU: Asus Strix 1060 6GB OC
RAM: 16GB Corsair 1333Mhz
Storage:
1x 500GB HDD
1x 1TB HDD
1x Samsung 850 EVO 250GB

Please help me, this is getting really frustrating 🙁

 

[James Mason]

It may be your CPU holding you back, especially if you had to cripple it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/forza/comments/53tnu3/forza_horizon_3_pc_performance_spreadsheet/

 

[Bamse]

It may be your CPU holding you back, especially if you had to cripple it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/forza/comments/53tnu3/forza_horizon_3_pc_performance_spreadsheet/

What should I do then?

 

[Corwin65]

It's your CPU. You bought old tech on a dead platform. That CPU can usually be outperformed by a Skylake i3.

You did well by lowering your settings and proved it's not the GPU.

 

[sizzling]

Not a strong CPU, the cores are weak. Are any of the cores hitting 100%? You may be better off not overclocking and activating the other cores, note sure how well that game uses multiple threads. Its fairly new so my do better with more cores.

 

[neblogai]

It may be your CPU holding you back, especially if you had to cripple it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/forza/comments/53tnu3/forza_horizon_3_pc_performance_spreadsheet/

If i7 870 at 2,93 can do 50-60 fps with RX480, as in one of the posts- sure 4 cores of 8320 at 4.3GHz are more powerful and should perform better.
Anyway, I'd try even lower CPU clock, say 3GHz, to see if performance drops. Also, make sure image quality 'dynamic' setting in the game is off, as it drops image quality to keep game at 30-40fps.

 

[Bamse]

It may be your CPU holding you back, especially if you had to cripple it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/forza/comments/53tnu3/forza_horizon_3_pc_performance_spreadsheet/

If i7 870 at 2,93 can do 50-60 fps with RX480, as in one of the posts- sure 4 cores of 8320 at 4.3GHz are more powerful and should perform better.
Anyway, I'd try even lower CPU clock, say 3GHz, to see if performance drops. Also, make sure image quality 'dynamic' setting in the game is off, as it drops image quality to keep game at 30-40fps.

Dynamic setting is off, I shall try your tip there, coming back with a reply soon

 

[sizzling]

It may be your CPU holding you back, especially if you had to cripple it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/forza/comments/53tnu3/forza_horizon_3_pc_performance_spreadsheet/

If i7 870 at 2,93 can do 50-60 fps with RX480, as in one of the posts- sure 4 cores of 8320 at 4.3GHz are more powerful and should perform better.
Anyway, I'd try even lower CPU clock, say 3GHz, to see if performance drops. Also, make sure image quality 'dynamic' setting in the game is off, as it drops image quality to keep game at 30-40fps.

You can't compare GHz like that. Modern Intel's can do about twice the work per clock cycle of the FX8xxx, ok that's an older Intel but Id still expect its cores although lower clocked to be significantly more powerful.

 

[Corwin65]

It may be your CPU holding you back, especially if you had to cripple it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/forza/comments/53tnu3/forza_horizon_3_pc_performance_spreadsheet/

If i7 870 at 2,93 can do 50-60 fps with RX480, as in one of the posts- sure 4 cores of 8320 at 4.3GHz are more powerful and should perform better.
Anyway, I'd try even lower CPU clock, say 3GHz, to see if performance drops. Also, make sure image quality 'dynamic' setting in the game is off, as it drops image quality to keep game at 30-40fps.

You can't compare GHz like that. Modern Intel's can do about twice the work per clock cycle of the FX8xxx, ok that's an older Intel but Id still expect its cores although lower clocked to be significantly more powerful.

Exactly.

This is whty an i3 usually bests the AMD offerings.

 

[Bamse]

Clocked it to 3Ghz, unlocked all the cores and running the game on Ultra, 29-45FPS. What is this man

 

[James Mason]

It may be your CPU holding you back, especially if you had to cripple it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/forza/comments/53tnu3/forza_horizon_3_pc_performance_spreadsheet/

If i7 870 at 2,93 can do 50-60 fps with RX480, as in one of the posts- sure 4 cores of 8320 at 4.3GHz are more powerful and should perform better.
Anyway, I'd try even lower CPU clock, say 3GHz, to see if performance drops. Also, make sure image quality 'dynamic' setting in the game is off, as it drops image quality to keep game at 30-40fps.

Not necessarily, the fx 8320 is roughly equal to i7 870 in terms of raw power at 4 cores.
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-870-vs-AMD-FX-8320/m961vs1983
It could be the motherboard not being powerful enough for the CPU, regardless of cores available.

 

[Jeff Kaos]

This may be a dumb question but did you turn off the "30 FPS max" (or whatever it's called) in the games settings? I just bought Forza Horizons 3 and GTA V to push my new gaming rig and I know one of those games has a setting that defaults the FPS to 30. And I'm pretty sure it's Forza.

 

[Bamse]

This may be a dumb question but did you turn off the "30 FPS max" (or whatever it's called) in the games settings? I just bought Forza Horizons 3 and GTA V to push my new gaming rig and I know one of those games has a setting that defaults the FPS to 30. And I'm pretty sure it's Forza.

It's set on Unlocked so that's not the problem

 

[madmatt30]

Then problem is your motherboard throttling that CPU no matter whether you have 4 cores disabled or not.

I have no idea what you were thinking buying an 8 core knowing full well the board doesn't support it properly if at all.

Buy a decent motherboard.

 

[madmatt30]

& before you argue I'm running fh3 at high on a fx 6300@4.2ghz with a gtx 970 , high settings & locked absolitely rock solid at 50fps.

 

[Bamse]

Then problem is your motherboard throttling that CPU no matter whether you have 4 cores disabled or not.

I have no idea what you were thinking buying an 8 core knowing full well the board doesn't support it properly if at all.

Buy a decent motherboard.

It's not throttling though? 100% on all cores and they run at 3Ghz constantly. And I didn't know about the mobo+cpu thing before I bought it.

 

[madmatt30]

Is this a new build completely ??
Or have you upgraded other stuff the same time as the CPU ??
Nvidia card previously etc ??

 

[Bamse]

Is this a new build completely ??
Or have you upgraded other stuff the same time as the CPU ??
Nvidia card previously etc ??

Bought both the GPU and CPU last week

 

[sizzling]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Bamse : "FPS Problems in several games"

Hello! Recently bought a new GPU and a CPU in hopes of getting good performance but got disappointed. I mean I can run The Witcher 3 on high settings with locked 60fps, runs supersmooth but when I boot up GTA V I get like 40-50 on high settings and exactly the same on low. In CS:GO I also have low FPS, got everything on low and it hovers between 60-110 (i have a 144Hz monitor so I want atleast 200-300fps) and the GPU and CPU I had before ran CS:GO and GTA better (Sapphire HD7850 and a FX-6300). This is really frustrating, please help.

Specs:
CPU: FX-8320 @4Ghz (Liquid cooled)
GPU: ASUS STRIX 1060 6GB OC
MOBO: ASUS M5A78L
RAM: 16GB Corsair 1333Mhz sumthin
PSU: 630W nobrand thing

Is your cpu hope 4ghz or is it dropping? That motherboard is not a good choice for that cpu, the VRM's often overheat and throttle the cpu. You really can't overclock on that motherboard.

Also what are your core usages? In games like Cs Go that can't use multiple cpu cores/threads you will see no gain over the 6300 as the extra cores go unused.

 

[Bamse]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Bamse : "FPS Problems in several games"

Hello! Recently bought a new GPU and a CPU in hopes of getting good performance but got disappointed. I mean I can run The Witcher 3 on high settings with locked 60fps, runs supersmooth but when I boot up GTA V I get like 40-50 on high settings and exactly the same on low. In CS:GO I also have low FPS, got everything on low and it hovers between 60-110 (i have a 144Hz monitor so I want atleast 200-300fps) and the GPU and CPU I had before ran CS:GO and GTA better (Sapphire HD7850 and a FX-6300). This is really frustrating, please help.

Specs:
CPU: FX-8320 @4Ghz (Liquid cooled)
GPU: ASUS STRIX 1060 6GB OC
MOBO: ASUS M5A78L
RAM: 16GB Corsair 1333Mhz sumthin
PSU: 630W nobrand thing

Is your cpu hope 4ghz or is it dropping? That motherboard is not a good choice for that cpu, the VRM's often overheat and throttle the cpu. You really can't overclock on that motherboard.

Also what are your core usages? In games like Cs Go that can't use multiple cpu cores/threads you will see no gain over the 6300 as the extra cores go unused.

Bought the Enzotech MOS-C10's and that fixed the v-drooping. The cpu runs at 4Ghz when in game at all times. CPU usage in GTA hovers around 40-50% while GPU usage is around 30-35%.

 

[madmatt30]

What is the actual exact board model ??
If its the m/usb3 with the 4+1 power phase (the same one as I use)

Then you want to be locking off at 6 cores between 3.5-3.8ghz.

That's where you're going to get your overall best performance ratio .

How are you locking the cores off at the moment ??
In bios ??

 

[Bamse]

What is the actual exact board model ??
If its the m/usb3 with the 4+1 power phase (the same one as I use)

Then you want to be locking off at 6 cores between 3.5-3.8ghz.

That's where you're going to get your overall best performance ratio .

It's the M5A78L with the 3+1 power phase.

 

[Bamse]

If I bought the Gigabyte GA-970-Gaming motherboard would that solve my problems?

 

[Noob_sam]

Fx 8320 is more than capable to play forza horizon 3... I have the same Cpu paired with Rx480 and even on ultra the cpu remains at 80%. the game clearly lacks optimization from the devs end.