Fractal Design Define S vs InWin 909

[hunt_ftw]

I want to know what would be best for watercooling, not caring about price. Thanks

Build:http://pcpartpicker.com/list/LK2J7h
Ignore PSU

 

[Icaraeus]

You don't need such an expensive motherboard. Why only 240GiB storage, and why A-Data instead of Samsung? Why such an expensive case? More expensive doesn't necessarily mean the best. Your power supply is also horrible quality. If there's anything you should spend the most $$ on apart from CPU and GPU, it's the power supply. This is what I'd do. Oh, and by the way, don't get a reference GTX 1080. The cooler is terrible and it throttles. Aftermarket GPUs, even if you're fitting a water block, will be cheaper.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($338.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170A-X1/3.1 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($92.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($88.15 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital WD Black 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($195.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 w/Window (Titanium) ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($83.89 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-AC56 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($61.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Other: WATERBLOCK (CPU) ($126.49)
Other: FANS (FOR LOOP) ($17.99)
Other: FANS (FOR LOOP) ($17.99)
Other: FANS (FOR LOOP) ($17.99)
Other: RADIATOR ($99.99)
Other: WATERBLOCK (GPU) ($125.49)
Other: BITFENIX GREEN SPECTRE PRO ($15.49)
Other: BITFENIX GREEN SPECTRE PRO ($15.49)
Other: BACKPLATE (GPU) ($34.99)
Other: KILL COIL ($5.50)
Other: PUMP ($149.99)
Other: DRAIN VALVE ($21.99)
Other: PUMP FAN MOUNT ($7.99)
Other: PLUGS x7 ($35.00)
Other: 90 DEGREE FITTING x6 ($72.00)
Other: RESERVOIR ($62.99)
Other: MALE TO MALE FITTING FOR DRAIN ($9.00)
Other: TUBING KIT ($99.00)
Other: INSERTS ($20.00)
Other: HEAT GUN FOR TUBING ($15.00)
Other: ACRYLIC TUBING x6 ($72.00)
Other: FITTINGS x8 ($64.00)
Other: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 Aftermarket ($650.00)
Total: $2891.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-05 05:33 EDT-0400

I have little idea about watercooling components so I left everything as is. I trust that everything you listed is compatible and is of sufficient quality.

 

[hunt_ftw]

Thank you for your reply, but if you will look at this list, its my current PC.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ng7BXL
I will be carrying over those storage units.
Everything else is going to my uncle, who is funding this build.
I have in mind the idea to crossfire the RX 480's. I dont know what I would use the 1080 for, but it would be a cool feature to my build. I also would like to know what aftermarket is? Im pretty sure its like a evga or msi or any other model. If so I have had my eye on the evga one. I have a WiFi adapter already. I have some extra cash, why not get a nice asus mobo? I see your prospective on the case, and my friend recommended this to me the other night. I have also seen many reasons on how InWin skimped on core things a case needs but they make up for it in beauty. I would like more of your opinion of the Fractal case please. Thanks for your time.

 

[g-unit1111]

I'd get a 1080 with a custom water block over the new R9s personally. Also have you thought about going with the new Broadwell-E CPUs? You can still use that SSD you have in the new build as a scratch drive, I personally wouldn't use it as a primary. Asus is no longer the best motherboard manufacturer. They used to be, but Asrock and MSI also make solid boards as well.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6850K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($628.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI X99A GAMING 7 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($248.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($179.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($117.99 @ Micro Center)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Founders Edition Video Card ($699.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair Air 540 ATX Mid Tower Case ($128.78 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 P2 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($167.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $2276.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-05 15:51 EDT-0400

The Air will accommodate just about any cooling solution you can throw at it, and will house larger radiators for liquid cooling than a Define S will.

 

[hunt_ftw]

Thanks, I was thinking about the Asus SABERTOOTH instead of that because its more color neutral. I have a 4790k i7 on me already bought right now, and am thinking about trying to go with a z87 mobo (asus sabertooth) but I think that will be outdated, and can only use ddr3. Is that worth it? I will definitly use your PSU pick there. Nice and cheap for lots of watts.

 

[g-unit1111]

Thanks, I was thinking about the Asus SABERTOOTH instead of that because its more color neutral. I have a 4790k i7 on me already bought right now, and am thinking about trying to go with a z87 mobo (asus sabertooth) but I think that will be outdated, and can only use ddr3. Is that worth it? I will definitly use your PSU pick there. Nice and cheap for lots of watts.

Z87 is definitely outdated. You can definitely reuse that CPU but be sure to get a Z97 board with M2 SSD support, M2 SSDs like the Samsung 950 Pro are a huge improvement over current drives.

Yeah that PSU is great, I have the 850W G2 and it's given me zero issues.

 

[hunt_ftw]

How does the z97 Sabertooth Mark 2 sound? I will for sure reuse it. How many years in the future do you think I will need to upgrade this build? Also, do you know if the mobo I choose can use ddr4?

 

[hunt_ftw]

NVM mark 2, if you look please look at mark 1