Free Anti-Virus Program

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André Gulliksen wrote:
....
> Yes, you _can_ configure AVG to connect to the internet if you are on
> dialup, but even this is a far inferior solution to the one used in Avast!

So you _can_ - that's the important aspect, whether 'inferior
solution' or not;-)

Roy
 
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Road Runner wrote:

> Hey Roy ... To be totally honest I don't think there is a perfect Anti-Virus
> program out there and I wouldn't take those survey that those website list
> as to what is good and not so good , If I did, I would be using Norton ...

Not necessarily - if you follow the website which has been cited
earlier in this thread, the Virus Bulletin's:
http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/products.xml?table

Peace!

Roy
 
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Sadly, you're exposed as nothing more than a NAV (or anything Symantec)
apologist! You are easily one of a very very few that supports it claim as
the "best". Most of the MVPs here, and more notably, the ones that give the
most knowledgable and accurate help here, all suggest to stay away from NAV.
Even former users of NAV (that also include MVPs) all say NAV uses to many
resources, and wants to remove, or alter files it has no business touching,
hence why many have problems with it.

FWIW, the free AVs that are reliable, are better for the average user, less
costly (obviously), and will find it less intrusive on system usage, and
file handling.
"NoNoBadDog!" <mypants_bjsledgeATpixi.com> wrote in message
news:u6JXCCszEHA.3808@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>I agree...no "perfect" solution, no will there likely ever be. The closest
>to being perfect is Norton AntiVirus, despite what the uneducated say about
>it slowing a system down of hogging resources or the other BS they spew. I
>have used NAV for years and it has never let me down.
>
> As far as free AV goes...you get what you pay for...
>
> AVG in particular always performs poorly in any valid testing I have ever
> seen, and on the rare occasion I have used it, it failed to detect viruses
> that were detected by NAV.
>
> Bobby
>
> "Road Runner" <beepbeep@9y.com> wrote in message
> news:ud9alsrzEHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> Hey Roy ... To be totally honest I don't think there is a perfect
>> Anti-Virus program out there and I wouldn't take those survey that those
>> website list as to what is good and not so good , If I did, I would be
>> using Norton and I know I would never use Norton product ever again
>> .... I rather though have an Anti_Virus program that doesn't hog the
>> resource like AVG , nor does Avast but with Avast which I was using
>> awhile ago I did get infected with a Virus and it didn't catch it , So I
>> move onto AVG which hasn't let me down as of yet ... Knock on wood ....
>> I did like the wishbone type interface of Avast ... Companies that
>> provide "Free" stuff should get our high fives ...
>>
>>
>> "Roy Coorne" <rcoorne@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:eCQQ%23PrzEHA.2196@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> Road Runner wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thats funny thats what I did with Avast when i got infected with a
>>>> virus which that program didn't stop
>>>>
>>>> "André Gulliksen" <andre.gulliksen@start.no> wrote in message
>>>> news:306desF2sbidpU1@uni-berlin.de...
>>>>
>>>>>Road Runner wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>AVG has a new free Anti Virus program , Read all about it ...
>>>>>
>>>>>"New"? I used this years ago, before dumping it in favour of Avast!
>>>
>>>
>>> Looking for the perfect road - have you been trying Kaspersky 5.0?
>>>
>>> RC
>>
>>
>
>
 
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Not an apologist. Just know that it works, and the claims of bloat an using
large amounts of system resources are false. I have it installed on all 5
of my home computers, and my small network of 23 computers at work. The
only noticeable difference is that *some* files take a bit longer to open
because they are being scanned. It uses almost no resources on any of my
computers. AVG simply misses files that NAV finds. It has never altered or
removed any files without first indicating what it wants to do, so that
point is moot. The "has no business touching " bit is a knee-jerk
statement at best, as NAV will not alter files just to alter files as your
post tries to suggest. This whole "system usage" business is useless in
this discussion, as your "average user" does little to monitor and maintain
system health, therefore the often cited "system usage" is often
attributable to other issues as well. A properly maintained system of
reasonable power (i.e. non celeron processor and with sufficient memory)
should and does not have problems with NAV.

I hope this discussion ends here, as you and I are obviously on opposite
sides of the fence. You don't like their products, and I do. You state they
don't work, and I know that they do. You are entitled to your opinion, as I
am to mine. Life goes on. But others read these posts and I just wanted to
shed some positive light on a product that I feel is worth consideration.

Bobby

"Ted" <lol@lol.lol> wrote in message
news:1101051161.MIjViZnHYqju3yo8s1xUhw@teranews...
> Sadly, you're exposed as nothing more than a NAV (or anything Symantec)
> apologist! You are easily one of a very very few that supports it claim as
> the "best". Most of the MVPs here, and more notably, the ones that give
> the most knowledgable and accurate help here, all suggest to stay away
> from NAV. Even former users of NAV (that also include MVPs) all say NAV
> uses to many resources, and wants to remove, or alter files it has no
> business touching, hence why many have problems with it.
>
> FWIW, the free AVs that are reliable, are better for the average user,
> less costly (obviously), and will find it less intrusive on system usage,
> and file handling.
> "NoNoBadDog!" <mypants_bjsledgeATpixi.com> wrote in message
> news:u6JXCCszEHA.3808@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>I agree...no "perfect" solution, no will there likely ever be. The
>>closest to being perfect is Norton AntiVirus, despite what the uneducated
>>say about it slowing a system down of hogging resources or the other BS
>>they spew. I have used NAV for years and it has never let me down.
>>
>> As far as free AV goes...you get what you pay for...
>>
>> AVG in particular always performs poorly in any valid testing I have ever
>> seen, and on the rare occasion I have used it, it failed to detect
>> viruses that were detected by NAV.
>>
>> Bobby
>>
>> "Road Runner" <beepbeep@9y.com> wrote in message
>> news:ud9alsrzEHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>> Hey Roy ... To be totally honest I don't think there is a perfect
>>> Anti-Virus program out there and I wouldn't take those survey that those
>>> website list as to what is good and not so good , If I did, I would be
>>> using Norton and I know I would never use Norton product ever again ....
>>> I rather though have an Anti_Virus program that doesn't hog the resource
>>> like AVG , nor does Avast but with Avast which I was using awhile ago I
>>> did get infected with a Virus and it didn't catch it , So I move onto
>>> AVG which hasn't let me down as of yet ... Knock on wood .... I did like
>>> the wishbone type interface of Avast ... Companies that provide "Free"
>>> stuff should get our high fives ...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Roy Coorne" <rcoorne@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eCQQ%23PrzEHA.2196@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>> Road Runner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thats funny thats what I did with Avast when i got infected with a
>>>>> virus which that program didn't stop
>>>>>
>>>>> "André Gulliksen" <andre.gulliksen@start.no> wrote in message
>>>>> news:306desF2sbidpU1@uni-berlin.de...
>>>>>
>>>>>>Road Runner wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>AVG has a new free Anti Virus program , Read all about it ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"New"? I used this years ago, before dumping it in favour of Avast!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Looking for the perfect road - have you been trying Kaspersky 5.0?
>>>>
>>>> RC
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
 
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<snip>
> - Somewhat better virus detection record. For details take a look at
> http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/products.xml
>
<snip>

just looked at that site. The latest test for windowsXP showed AVG Pass,
Avast Fail, hmm.. so I won't be switching t Avast anytime soon. Thanks for
the link.

http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/tests.xml?200406

I don't have an update problem. I used AVG Freeware for over 2 years before
deciding it was good enough to buy.
 
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MartinSGill wrote:
> just looked at that site. The latest test for windowsXP showed AVG
> Pass, Avast Fail, hmm.. so I won't be switching t Avast anytime soon.

When deciding which AV is most reliable you have to look at statistics over
time, not just at one point in time. In 2004 both AVG and Avast! has a 75%
pass rate, with three passes and one fail each. If you look at even longer
terms than last year then Avast! has 10 passes and 19 fails, and AVG has 6
passes and 20 fails. You do the math. In my book Avast! still has a _slight_
edge on AVG. But only slight, and if I liked the interface more I'd probably
stick with AVG rather than switch.

On a slightly off topic note, if you want to pay for the most reliable AV
you should probably look at NOD32 or Symantec.
 
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On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 06:19:06 -0800, MartinSGill wrote:

> http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/tests.xml?200406

This is not the most recent version of Avast.

Status: FAIL
Result history: Alwil (Avast!)
Product name: Alwil Avast! 4.1.399

The present version is 4.5. You may wish to await more recent
results before writing off Avast.

--
James E. Morrow
Email to: jamesemorrow@email.com