Fresh/Clean Install of windows 10 still had spotify on it and I did not have to redownload MB Drivers, help me understand pls.

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Today I fresh installed Windows 10 to hopefully take care of a problem I was having with my games. I entered my product key, went through setup tutorial, the works. I did not just reset my pc.

I mostly play Paladins and Overwatch. I used to get great FPS in ow but as time went on and new updates came out for the game and windows (I was up to date with windows and these issues were happening before the new security update), my FPS got worse and worse and worse. When the game first came out I could keep my game to 240FPS with no problem what so ever and the game ran buttery smooth, as time went on, it just keeps fluctuating and can't keep above 200 fps and it even sometimes go below 120 for a few seconds. I tried monitoring if something in the backround was doing it, but when the fps drops happen, nothing in the backround spiked or anything of the sort.

Paladins has the same problem, it can't stay at a stable 150. No matter what graphics options I do, no matter what tweaks I did with Windows 10, my FPS in both of these games just keep fluctuating and making for a not so smooth enjoyable experience. I reinstalled windows as a final test to see if it would fix it. I have not tried the games yet as I am stall reinstalling things.

The strange thing is, my PC did not have my 1070 drivers installed after the install, of course I know why :), but my PC did not look like it was in safe mode, it looked like I already had my gpu drivers installed, I recently updated my bios today so idk if that had anything to do with it in terms of maybe my computer was using my cpu's integrated graphics, which I did not expect it to do.

The other weird thing is while reinstalling my stuff, I had noticed while reinstalling spotify, windows said it was already installed and in fact, it was in my list of start up items already! Netflix wasn't already installed and neither was some other apps I use.

You see now, if my problems are not fixed with my games, I am now unsure if my reinstall of windows was actually a clean one and I am unsure as how to tell. Please help me as I really want to fix my FPS problems very badly. I believe the problems became very noticeable to me after the falls creators update. I tried asking Hi-Rez for help, but the conclusion they came to was that the fall creators update was the problem and they could not help. I am hoping that isn't true since I see streamers with the same equipment as me or worse, have better FPS than me while streaming.

I have checked the health of my hardware multiple times and each time everything comes up healthy with no problems and I have every driver up to date and my internet connection is more than fine. Before anyone asks, my Temps on my gpu never exceed 65C while playing either game and my cpu temp never exceeds 60C either, I highly doubt throttling is happening here.

i7 4790 non k
Corsair RMx Series, RM850, 850W 80+ Gold PSU
MSI z97 SLI Krait edition with most recent BIOS
Gtx 1070 FTW Edition not overclocked
16gb of Avexir Core Series 240-Pin DDR3 SDRam
Crucial Bx100 250gb SSD has the OS on it
850 Evo 500gb is used for games
Seagate 1TB HDD Sata 6bs 64mb Cache used just for storage of Music and small things.

I plead to anyone for help and hope I have provided enough and as much info as possible.

Thank you.
 
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Windows 10 promotes certain third party apps by pre-installing them. Oddly it seems that the selection of apps and games pre-installed on any particular installation varies but since you use spotify it seems to have done you a small favor.

Windows has a "generic" display driver which runs the display when there isn't a specific manufacturer driver installed, which makes sure you don't have a situation where you can't get video to even get as far as installing that driver! Of course the generic driver has limited functionality but Win 10 is very aggressive about automatically downloading as many drivers as it can find once it gets online. It probably would have automatically detected that vid card driver pretty soon if you hadn't...
Did you disconnect all of your other drives when doing the clean install of Windows? This is preferred so boot files don't get written to the other drives. If later on the other drives are removed or formatted, you may not be able to boot into Windows.

As for using your internal graphics after the BIOS update and Windows installation, this would only be possible if you physically removed the connection from your monitor to the GPU and reconnected the cable to your motherboard's graphics port.

Are you sure Spotify wasn't installed on one of your other drives and not the OS drive? Although I don't know how it would already be in the list of startup items on a clean install.
 
Windows 10 promotes certain third party apps by pre-installing them. Oddly it seems that the selection of apps and games pre-installed on any particular installation varies but since you use spotify it seems to have done you a small favor.

Windows has a "generic" display driver which runs the display when there isn't a specific manufacturer driver installed, which makes sure you don't have a situation where you can't get video to even get as far as installing that driver! Of course the generic driver has limited functionality but Win 10 is very aggressive about automatically downloading as many drivers as it can find once it gets online. It probably would have automatically detected that vid card driver pretty soon if you hadn't installed it yourself.
 
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@mjslakeridge I did not uninstall my other hard drives and I know what you are referring to. I cleaned my drives before installing windows and the windows 10 partition of 100mb I think you are referring to is on the correct drive


@schiztech ah that makes sense, just surprising that it was like that is all.

On another note, does anyone understand what my FPS problems are from or is it really the fall creators update making windows 10 crappy?