friend first build

[tunatuna302]

my friend is looking for a 600 dollar gaming pc without monitor that will give him at least 60 fps playing siege medium settings and i gathered these two for him. can you guys tell me if he has a better option? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nvQKGG
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LPqrWD he will buy his system very soon if he finds a final build.

 

[ikaz]

Well I would say save $30 no need for the CPU fan the box intel comes with one that is good enough for the CPU since you can't over clock it anyway.

Use that extra money to buy a 2X4GB kit like this;
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YzNypg/gskill-memory-f42666c15d8gvr

 

[tunatuna302]

Well I would say save $30 no need for the CPU fan the box intel comes with one that is good enough for the CPU since you can't over clock it anyway.

Use that extra money to buy a 2X4GB kit like this;
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YzNypg/gskill-memory-f42666c15d8gvr

what mobo should i pair with? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GdnXFt

 

[ikaz]

either one of those MB look good I would go with the cheaper one good value.

 

[tunatuna302]

either one of those MB look good I would go with the cheaper one good value.

final https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3WG2TB looking good?

 

[ikaz]

looks good.

 

[tunatuna302]

looks good.

thank you but i will see what others say too

 

[Lucky_SLS]

My suggestion :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($98.79 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI - B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($69.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($70.98 @ Newegg Business)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($43.84 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor - Radeon RX 570 4GB Red Devil Video Card ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($32.98 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: LEPA - LP-BOL12P-BL 81.5 CFM 120mm Fan ($19.24 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: LEPA - LP-BOL12P-BL 81.5 CFM 120mm Fan ($19.24 @ Amazon)
Total: $605.04
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-16 00:03 EDT-0400

Use AMD StoreMI for a 250gb ssd like drive.

 

[tunatuna302]

My suggestion :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($98.79 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI - B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($69.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($70.98 @ Newegg Business)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($43.84 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor - Radeon RX 570 4GB Red Devil Video Card ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($32.98 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: LEPA - LP-BOL12P-BL 81.5 CFM 120mm Fan ($19.24 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: LEPA - LP-BOL12P-BL 81.5 CFM 120mm Fan ($19.24 @ Amazon)
Total: $605.04
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-16 00:03 EDT-0400

Use AMD StoreMI for a 250gb ssd like drive.

would this build be better than this? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3WG2TB

 

[Lucky_SLS]

The only component that's of higher quality is the psu.

Ryzen 2200G gives about the same performance as 8100 when overclocked [taken care by preset mobo oc profiles in bios]

Rx570 is more powerful than the 1050ti.

Bigger ssd like drive possible with AMD StoreMI.

CX 550 2017 more than enough for this build.

Much better case with room to upgrade.

 

[tunatuna302]

The only component that's of higher quality is the psu.

Ryzen 2200G gives about the same performance as 8100 when overclocked [taken care by preset mobo oc profiles in bios]

Rx570 is more powerful than the 1050ti.

Bigger ssd like drive possible with AMD StoreMI.

CX 550 2017 more than enough for this build.

Much better case with room to upgrade.

can we make it a cheaper case?

 

[tunatuna302]

The only component that's of higher quality is the psu.

Ryzen 2200G gives about the same performance as 8100 when overclocked [taken care by preset mobo oc profiles in bios]

Rx570 is more powerful than the 1050ti.


Bigger ssd like drive possible with AMD StoreMI.

CX 550 2017 more than enough for this build.

Much better case with room to upgrade.

can we make it a cheaper case? black, red
would 500gb hdd be enough?

 

[Lucky_SLS]

storage depends on u. but frankly though atleast 1tb would be required.

that h500 is a tempered glass case, u can go for acrylic case like the fractal design focus g or this case : https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2Zvbt6/deepcool-matrexx-55-atx-mid-tower-case-matrexx-55

 

[tunatuna302]

storage depends on u. but frankly though atleast 1tb would be required.

that h500 is a tempered glass case, u can go for acrylic case like the fractal design focus g or this case : https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2Zvbt6/deepcool-matrexx-55-atx-mid-tower-case-matrexx-55

i dont think he will put much in storage he will upgrade later
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CWsssZ what about this?

 

[Lucky_SLS]

If you really want 8100 cpu and gtx 1050ti gpu, that build is good. Maybe an atx mobo would be better. But otherwise good.


But like you saw, the 2200G offer better cpu performance cuz it can overclock and the Rx570 is a much powerful gpu than the 1050ti. So I don't know why you are sticking with the intel/Nvidia combo.

The only use case where it is indeed worth it is in high end builds.

 

[tunatuna302]

If you really want 8100 cpu and gtx 1050ti gpu, that build is good. Maybe an atx mobo would be better. But otherwise good.


But like you saw, the 2200G offer better cpu performance cuz it can overclock and the Rx570 is a much powerful gpu than the 1050ti. So I don't know why you are sticking with the intel/Nvidia combo.

The only use case where it is indeed worth it is in high end builds.

according to what you recommended and my friend likes the h500 because it looks cool and it is all steel construction I chose 2 red led fans with rpm adjustability and 2200g + 570 rx i also increased storage tell me if there is still something wrong or needs to be changed https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CkTq7W

 

[Lucky_SLS]

Changed to faster ram :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI - B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($69.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Team - T-Force Delta RGB 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 570 4GB AORUS 4G Video Card ($160.00 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Rosewill - RWCR-1612 63.1 CFM 120mm Fan ($11.05 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Rosewill - RWCR-1612 63.1 CFM 120mm Fan ($11.05 @ Newegg)
Total: $601.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-17 10:32 EDT-0400

120gb ssd ain't worth it. Barely holds win10 plus 2 aaa game. So invest in a 1tb hdd and use AMD StoreMI till your friend can get a 250gb/500gb ssd.

 

[tunatuna302]

Changed to faster ram :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI - B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($69.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Team - T-Force Delta RGB 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 570 4GB AORUS 4G Video Card ($160.00 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Rosewill - RWCR-1612 63.1 CFM 120mm Fan ($11.05 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Rosewill - RWCR-1612 63.1 CFM 120mm Fan ($11.05 @ Newegg)
Total: $601.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-17 10:32 EDT-0400

120gb ssd ain't worth it. Barely holds win10 plus 2 aaa game. So invest in a 1tb hdd and use AMD StoreMI till your friend can get a 250gb/500gb ssd.

ok but how do I enable amd storeMI?

 

[ikaz]

Well hold on, I would say a 128 SSD is worth it for over all system response, however your friend would need to know to install games to the secondary drive (using your 128/500HD build). Windows 10 install will take up only roughly 50-60 GB leaving a good 40ish (after formatting) free to install say random applications. It doesn't sound like your friend will be upgrading his machine much if your doing it for him so having an SSD off the bat will help specially on windows updates.

 

[tunatuna302]

Well hold on, I would say a 128 SSD is worth it for over all system response, however your friend would need to know to install games to the secondary drive (using your 128/500HD build). Windows 10 install will take up only roughly 50-60 GB leaving a good 40ish (after formatting) free to install say random applications. It doesn't sound like your friend will be upgrading his machine much if your doing it for him so having an SSD off the bat will help specially on windows updates.

i think he will upgrade on christmas and maybe every 2 or 1 years or so but I will ask him some questions

 

[ikaz]

Well it also easy to clone a smaller drive to a larger on so you could get a small SSD then maybe in 6 months to year clone to a larger drive. However if he is thinking about upgrading basically a month or two after your initial build then it maybe better to go with Ryzen 2400G since it has 4 extra threads and a little faster than the 2200G. Then buy/install a new GPU for xmas so he could maybe upgrade to a AMD 580/GTX 1060 6GB just a thought.

 

[tunatuna302]

Well it also easy to clone a smaller drive to a larger on so you could get a small SSD then maybe in 6 months to year clone to a larger drive. However if he is thinking about upgrading basically a month or two after your initial build then it maybe better to go with Ryzen 2400G since it has 4 extra threads and a little faster than the 2200G. Then buy/install a new GPU for xmas so he could maybe upgrade to a AMD 580/GTX 1060 6GB just a thought.

He will upgrade every spring and christmas (he is planning to)

 

[ikaz]

Well he really shouldn't have to upgrade twice a year once should be enough depending on what he starts out with.

 

[tunatuna302]

Well he really shouldn't have to upgrade twice a year once should be enough depending on what he starts out with.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tFYq7W anything wrong? gonna use amd storageMI expectations: r6siege on medium at least 60 fps

 

[Lucky_SLS]

^ build is perfect. U have to use the StoreMI software : https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/store-mi

For his next upgrade : a 500gb ssd and the ryzen 5 7nm chip next year.