Fritz8 Issues

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Recently acquired Fritz8. Only cost me twenty quid and it's certainly worth
that but I've got a few issues that I wondered if anyone out there could
advise on (btw O/S = W2Ksp4). Thanks in advance for any assistance.

1) Is there any documentation of the complete list of file extensions used
by this program?
2) When in a database, I understand 'select key' but what does 'install key'
do? When I've clicked it out of interest it seems to have screwed things up
a bit.
3) Are there any cbh files with training tests supplied with the Fritz8
package? Otherwise any recommendations for cheap or free ones on the web?
4) In a database, can I easily filter to games I've lost or do I have to do
it twice, once for white and once for black?
5) In a database, can I sort games by date?
6) In a database, can I filter the list to a broad opening such as just d2d4
rather than clicking all the way down the tree to a complete opening other
than by entering the ECO codes in the filter dialog?
7) Is there anyway to play across a LAN other than both participants hooked
up to the Internet?
8) What does notation like "11.88/0" and "#1/5" mean?
9) My 3d board sometimes fails to load and instead reverts to 'old 3d'.
Anyone got same or know cause / solution?
10) In full Analysis, analysis disappears for a while leaving just the depth
and KN/s. Anyone got same or know cause / solution?
11) In database, when double clicking a line in the theme keys, get
Application Error re "referenced memory". Anyone got same or know
cause/solution?
 
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I wont address all your questions now. Instead I recommend that you take
a look at
http://chessbase.com/support/index.asp

and remember to read the relevant older issues in 'T-notes' found in
left menu on that site. Then you'll soon know most answers, and a lot
more...

Of course read in the helpfile in the program!

crown21 wrote:
> Recently acquired Fritz8. Only cost me twenty quid and it's certainly worth
> that but I've got a few issues that I wondered if anyone out there could
> advise on (btw O/S = W2Ksp4). Thanks in advance for any assistance.
>
> 1) Is there any documentation of the complete list of file extensions used
> by this program?

The Fritz help doesn't seem to include this, and some people obviously
miss it. CB9 help explains:

All files which belong to an individual database have the same name, but
their suffixes are different:

NAME.CBH = Game data (“H” is for game “header”).
NAME.CBG = Game moves and variations (“game”).
NAME.CBA = Annotations (text commentary).
NAME.CBP = Players index.
NAME.CBT = Tournament index.
NAME.CBC = Commentators index.
NAME.CBS = Source index.

These files contain the minimal game information in a database. If you
delete the CBA file all commentary will be removed from the games – but
not the moves and the variations, which are stored in the CBG file. If
you delete the CBG file the database can still be opened and many
operations carried out (e.g. openings, players, tournament indexes,
statistics). You can even load individual games, but of course there are
no moves to play through. If one of those first seven files ist lost or
damaged, the database is lost.

NAME.CBE = Team index.
NAME.CBJ = Second header file (team information, final material.
NAME.CBM = Multimedia baggage in HTML database text files.

Those files contain additional information to the games. If they are
lost, information is irrevocably lost, but the games will still be fine.

NAME.CBB = Search booster.
NAME.CBGI = A second smaller search booster.

NAME.CIT = Index file for fast player/tournament/team access,
automatically generated, if lost.

NAME.CIP = Index file for fast player/tournament/team access,
automatically generated, if lost.

The first two contain hashed information on the games in a database. It
increases the speed of retrieval by a factor of 100. These files are
generated by the program and they are not critical.

NAME.CKO = ChessBase key, openings.
NAME.CPO = ChessBase positions, openings.

These files contain the openings keys for a database. The CKO file
contains the names of the keys and the record numbers of the games for
each key. The CPO file contains the positions which ChessBase uses to
classify a game and determine which openings variation it contains.

NAME.CKN + .CPN = General theme key, theme definitions.
NAME.CK1 + .CP1 = Tactical theme key and definitions.
NAME.CK2 + .CP2 = Strategic theme key and definitions.
NAME.CK3 + .CP3 = Endgame theme key and definitions.

These keys make use of definitions created with the help of the search
mask to classify games according to various themes.

NAME.CTB
NAME.CTG
NAME.CTO

These three files make up an openings book.

NAME.CBV = Archived ChessBase database.
NAME.CBZ = Encrypted archived ChessBase database.

This is used to store all of the database components in a single,
compressed file. You can use it to backup your work or send databases by
email. The .CBZ file is protected by a password which you enter when you
archive the database and need when you open it again.

NAME.INI = Database initialisation file.

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Also some multimedia files exist.

HD
 
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HD <HDChess@gmail.com> wrote:
> I wont address all your questions now. Instead I recommend that you take
> a look at
> http://chessbase.com/support/index.asp

Good advice - there's lots of useful information there.


> Of course read in the helpfile in the program!

Ha! The helpfile with Fritz 8 is a complete joke. There are many things
it doesn't cover at all and there are plenty of cases where the helpfile
disagrees with the behaviour of the program.


Dave.

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crown21 <noone@noone.com> wrote:
> 2) When in a database, I understand 'select key' but what does 'install
> key' do? When I've clicked it out of interest it seems to have screwed
> things up a bit.

It installs an index of, e.g., opening variations in the database. You
can uninstall the index by deleting the relevant files from the database
directory. I can't remember what they're called but the names are fairly
obvious. Take a backup copy of the database first, in case you delete the
wrong files!


> 4) In a database, can I easily filter to games I've lost or do I have to
> do it twice, once for white and once for black?

Not as far as I can see.


> 5) In a database, can I sort games by date?

No. You need ChessBase to do that.


> 6) In a database, can I filter the list to a broad opening such as just
> d2d4 rather than clicking all the way down the tree to a complete
> opening other than by entering the ECO codes in the filter dialog?

You could filter for the position that occurs after 1.d4. That wouldn't
work for games that transpose from 1.c4 or 1.Nf3. Filtering for ECO codes
is also a bit fiddly as a lot of the A-- codes are 1.d4 openings, too.


Dave.

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Thanks for your and HD's help. I browsed the area you suggested and got a
few bits of info. I then emailed support with the remaining issues, some of
which they've answered. I'm getting there.
One further question I forgot to post: How does one change the locations
for the autosave and myinternetgames databases?
Thanks for help so far - manual leaves a lot to be desired....

Crown21

PS What exactly do I get in addition if I buy ChessBase? Is it worth it
(for an enthusiastic amatuer)?

"David Richerby" <davidr@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote in message
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> HD <HDChess@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I wont address all your questions now. Instead I recommend that you take
> > a look at
> > http://chessbase.com/support/index.asp
 
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crown21 wrote:

> One further question I forgot to post: How does one change the locations
> for the autosave and myinternetgames databases?

One attempt would be to move the files, and adjust the ini file in
"application data"... But there's no direct path in the ini file for
those bases, and changing the last used path DB's etc. doesn't help -
the GUI simply creates new ones at the default location... Pitty.

>
> Crown21
>
> PS What exactly do I get in addition if I buy ChessBase? Is it worth it
> (for an enthusiastic amatuer)?

There's no "exactly" here.
You get a lot of database utillities, easier ways to manage games, the
possibillity of creating and/or editing opening and other themekeys.
If you put an effort into extensive use of the program, you can get a
lot. With programs like that, the most essential part is generally the
user.
Again, to get some impressions, check the different pages at Chessbase.
Also you might go to Chesscafe.com and read some issues of Mig's
Chessbase Cafe - lots of stuff regarding CB8 also applies to CB9, though
things have become easier with 9.

HD