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More info?)
Thanx, Robert. I assume that's from MS Flight Sim EULA or just their
generic?
If that's the case then, it is illegal to make a copy of copy protected
software even for YOUR OWN USE. Period.
Vic
"RobertVA" <robert_c72@nospam.notmail.com> wrote in message
news:eNX7YXrNEHA.2244@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> "Applications Software. You may only install, access, and run ("RUN") one
> copy of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT, or any prior version of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT
> for the same operating system, on a single personal computer, ("COMPUTER")
> for your personal, noncommercial use. If not prevented by copy protection
> technology, the primary user of the COMPUTER on which the SOFTWARE PRODUCT
> is installed may make a second copy for his or her exclusive and personal
> noncommercial use on a portable computer."
>
> "Termination. Without prejudice to any other rights, Microsoft may
terminate
> this EULA if you fail to comply with the terms and conditions of this
EULA.
> In such event, you must destroy all copies of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT and all
> of its component parts."
>
> "COPY PROTECTION. The SOFTWARE PRODUCT may require the original media for
> use of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT on the COMPUTER and/or employ copy protection
> technology to prevent the unauthorized copying of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT. It
> is illegal to make unauthorized copies of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT or
circumvent
> any copy protection technology employed in the SOFTWARE PRODUCT. "
>
> There's also restrictions against devices and software to defeat copy
> protection technology in the United State's Digital Millenium Copyright
Act
> (DMCA). "Fair use" isn't mentioned in the US constitution, was probably a
> part of an earlier act of congress and would be subject to revision by
more
> recent acts of congress including DMCA. A federal appeals court recently
> ordered a DVD copy program recalled for these very reasons.
>
> "Vic Baron" <vgbaron@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%230LNlWqNEHA.2876@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > Hi Jeroen -
> >
> > Playing the devil's advocate if I may ( because I agree with you in
> > principle ) - Can you CITE where it states that circumventing the copy
> > protection is a violation of your contract? IANAL but the mere fact that
> it
> > IS copy protected does not imply that it is a violation to defeat that
> > protection. So, is there a paragraph that specifically states that you
> > cannot bypass the protection else you are in violation?
> >
> > Thanx,
> >
> > Vic
> >
> > "Jeroen Wenting" <beefjerky@hornet.beefjerky.demon.nl> wrote in message
> > news:109p02qj059f943@corp.supernews.com...
> > > Circumventing the copy protection is a violation of your contract.
> > > So while you may LEGALLY circumvent the copy protection and not be
> > > prosecuted for making that backup copy (which you of course store in
the
> > > home of a friend who solemnly swears to not use it, cough cough), you
> will
> > > be in violation of your contract which voids your license to use the
> > > product.
> > > You will therefore replace a criminal charge with a civil one, which
may
> > > prevent you time in prison but leave you open to litigation.
> > >
> > > "Vic Baron" <vgbaron@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:uVZCcR7LEHA.2532@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > Hey me -
> > > >
> > > > I think this bozo's a troll. He's posted twice, stating that the
prior
> > > post
> > > > was "wrong". He sounds like a 9 year old who hasn't a clue.
> > > >
> > > > Interesting aside - talked to a few attorneys about the " If not
> > prevented
> > > > by copy protection....." line. My question was - If one could
> > circumvent
> > > > the copy protection and then make a copy, would that be legal?
Typical
> > > > attorneys gave me nebulous answers <g> but the consensus seemed to
be
> > "yes
> > > > it would be legal". The opposition maintained that the meaning of
the
> > > > statement is " If it's copy protected, you are NOT allowed to make a
> > > copy".
> > > >
> > > > BTW, for those reading this - there is no LAW that states that you
CAN
> > > make
> > > > a copy for your personal use. It's generally accepted, and I do it
all
> > the
> > > > time but a few people have said that the LAW says you can -
according
> to
> > > my
> > > > attorney friends there is no such LAW either express or implied..
> > > >
> > > > IANAL, so I'm just passing on info.
> > > >
> > > > Vic
> > > >
> > > > "me @ comcast" <me @ comcast> wrote in message
> > > > news:erU3Cw5LEHA.3216@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > > crvm,
> > > > >
> > > > > you should re-read my previous post.
> > > > >
> > > > > i didn't write that it's not true
> > > > > according to microsoft it is legal to make a second copy for
> personal
> > > > use.
> > > > > read last sentence :
> > > > > " If not prevented by copy protection technology, the primary user
> of
> > > the
> > > > > COMPUTER on which the SOFTWARE PRODUCT is installed may make a
> second
> > > copy
> > > > > for his or her exclusive and personal noncommercial use on a
> portable
> > > > > computer."
> > > > >
> > > > > if you had read the above from previous post,my interpretation is
,
> > that
> > > > > even microsoft states it is legal for personal use.
> > > > >
> > > > > please read posts thoroughly before posting negative comments.
> > > > > if you don't agree, then post a fix , or something that may help.
> > > > >
> > > > > "crvm" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:6e3701c42f53$96694950$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's simply not true, regardlesss of what MS says one
> > > > > > can legally make backup copies of their software as long
> > > > > > as you are not making many copies or sharing!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > crvm
> > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >Folks, take good care of your Flight Sim 2004 disk four
> > > > > > >(the one that must be in your computer to run). Should
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > >be damaged so that you can not reliably start the program
> > > > > > >it'll cost you $30.00 for a replacement set.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Microsoft can't or won't provide replacements for just
> > > > > > >Disk 4. And, of course, it's copy protected.
> > > > > > >.
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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