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hi me, continued -
Were you using the no-cd version of FS9.exe and did you
change it? The MS instructions seem to carry an ominous
warning regarding this.
s ------------------------------------------------------

>-----Original Message-----
>i had to update my 'fsuipc.dll' v3.40 from
>http://www.schiratti.com/dowson.html .
>
>put in your modules folder within fs2004 if you need it.
>
>goodluck !
>
>
>"me @ comcast" <me @ comcast> wrote in message
>news:uwSp$DZrEHA.3988@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> update for fs2004 version v9.1 availible at
>> http://www.microsoft.com/games/flightsimulator/downloads.asp
>>
>>
>
>
>.
>
 
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yes , no cd is fine.


"sam" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0e1c01c4ad98$c7287c50$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> hi me, continued -
> Were you using the no-cd version of FS9.exe and did you
> change it? The MS instructions seem to carry an ominous
> warning regarding this.
> s ------------------------------------------------------
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >i had to update my 'fsuipc.dll' v3.40 from
> >http://www.schiratti.com/dowson.html .
> >
> >put in your modules folder within fs2004 if you need it.
> >
> >goodluck !
> >
> >
> >"me @ comcast" <me @ comcast> wrote in message
> >news:uwSp$DZrEHA.3988@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> update for fs2004 version v9.1 availible at
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/games/flightsimulator/downloads.asp
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >.
> >
 
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.games.zone.simulation (More info?)

Hey me -

Others are reporting problems when they try to run the updated fs9.1 with
the NOCD crack. Are you saying that after the update you can run it with the
NOCD fs9.exe?

Thanx,

Vic
"me @ comcast" <me @ comcast> wrote in message
news:%23tZWblZrEHA.3488@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> yes , no cd is fine.
>
>
> "sam" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0e1c01c4ad98$c7287c50$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> > hi me, continued -
> > Were you using the no-cd version of FS9.exe and did you
> > change it? The MS instructions seem to carry an ominous
> > warning regarding this.
> > s ------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >i had to update my 'fsuipc.dll' v3.40 from
> > >http://www.schiratti.com/dowson.html .
> > >
> > >put in your modules folder within fs2004 if you need it.
> > >
> > >goodluck !
> > >
> > >
> > >"me @ comcast" <me @ comcast> wrote in message
> > >news:uwSp$DZrEHA.3988@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > >> update for fs2004 version v9.1 availible at
> > >> http://www.microsoft.com/games/flightsimulator/downloads.asp
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >.
> > >
>
>
 
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hi Vic -
Yup. NoCD works fine. Only thing extra needed, as 'me'
reported, was an upgrade to FSUIPC 3.4.
The 27.4mb D/L took 1 minute and 49 seconds. The
installation less than 5. Got out my disk 4, just in
case, but it wasn't neeeded.
Everything seems to be working fine, and I think that
possibly, just possibly, FPS are a little better.
Drat... I have nothing to complain about.
s ----------------------------------------------------

>-----Original Message-----
>Hey me -
>
>Others are reporting problems when they try to run the
updated fs9.1 with
>the NOCD crack. Are you saying that after the update you
can run it with the
>NOCD fs9.exe?
>
>Thanx,
>
>Vic
>"me @ comcast" <me @ comcast> wrote in message
>news:%23tZWblZrEHA.3488@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> yes , no cd is fine.
>>
>>
>> "sam" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:0e1c01c4ad98$c7287c50$a501280a@phx.gbl...
>> > hi me, continued -
>> > Were you using the no-cd version of FS9.exe and did you
>> > change it? The MS instructions seem to carry an ominous
>> > warning regarding this.
>> > s ------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > >-----Original Message-----
>> > >i had to update my 'fsuipc.dll' v3.40 from
>> > >http://www.schiratti.com/dowson.html .
>> > >
>> > >put in your modules folder within fs2004 if you need it.
>> > >
>> > >goodluck !
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >"me @ comcast" <me @ comcast> wrote in message
>> > >news:uwSp$DZrEHA.3988@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> > >> update for fs2004 version v9.1 availible at
>> > >>
http://www.microsoft.com/games/flightsimulator/downloads.asp
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >.
>> > >
>>
>>
>
>
>.
>
 
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.games.zone.simulation (More info?)

>Yup. NoCD works fine.

No, no, no, the fs9.exe has been updated and you will miss several
important updates if you use the old cracked one, use the CD for now
or don't install the update...


---
All the Best
Katy Pluta, MS_MVP for Simulators
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/

Asking questions the right way:
http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm#Asking

FS FAQ at http://www.simflight.com

Visit Project Magenta!
http://www.projectmagenta.com
 
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.games.zone.simulation (More info?)

hi Katy -
I'm sure that you've been better briefed on this than I,
but what I found is that the upgrade did install OK with
the NoCD fs9.exe in place. If fs9.exe has itself been
updated, would it not overwrite the previous file?
I am aware that MS made the same comments, and this leads
me to wonder what features may not become functional?
s -------------------------------------------------------

>-----Original Message-----
>>Yup. NoCD works fine.
>
>No, no, no, the fs9.exe has been updated and you will miss
several
>important updates if you use the old cracked one, use the
CD for now
>or don't install the update...
>
>
>---
>All the Best
>Katy Pluta, MS_MVP for Simulators
>http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>
>Asking questions the right way:
>http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm#Asking
>
>FS FAQ at http://www.simflight.com
>
>Visit Project Magenta!
>http://www.projectmagenta.com
>
>.
>
 
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sam , vic , katy,

i unstalled and re-installed update according to update web site.
(copy\pasted backup original fs9 application)

i see bridges as listed with both no cd install and suggested install
procedure. still don't see fps improvement.

that was easy enough to fix (though i can't see a difference), i feel for
the people who have downloaded megabytes of scenery files, that may cause a
problem.


"sam" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1c5f01c4adc4$db397e70$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> hi Katy -
> I'm sure that you've been better briefed on this than I,
> but what I found is that the upgrade did install OK with
> the NoCD fs9.exe in place. If fs9.exe has itself been
> updated, would it not overwrite the previous file?
> I am aware that MS made the same comments, and this leads
> me to wonder what features may not become functional?
> s -------------------------------------------------------
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >>Yup. NoCD works fine.
> >
> >No, no, no, the fs9.exe has been updated and you will miss
> several
> >important updates if you use the old cracked one, use the
> CD for now
> >or don't install the update...
> >
> >
> >---
> >All the Best
> >Katy Pluta, MS_MVP for Simulators
> >http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> >
> >Asking questions the right way:
> >http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm#Asking
> >
> >FS FAQ at http://www.simflight.com
> >
> >Visit Project Magenta!
> >http://www.projectmagenta.com
> >
> >.
> >
 
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.games.zone.simulation (More info?)

>I'm sure that you've been better briefed on this than I,
>but what I found is that the upgrade did install OK with
>the NoCD fs9.exe in place.

Are you absolutely sure of this? What is the version number (file
properties) of your current fs9.exe? The update has always refused to
install on the no-cd crack version, it modifies original files to keep
the patch size reasonable and do not simply replace them, if it
installed over modified exe or dll the update *is* incomplete...


---
All the Best
Katy Pluta, MS_MVP for Simulators
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/

Asking questions the right way:
http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm#Asking

FS FAQ at http://www.simflight.com

Visit Project Magenta!
http://www.projectmagenta.com
 
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.games.zone.simulation (More info?)

hi Katy -

I have now tried it both ways. In neither case is fs9.exe
itself modified. The upgrade went smooth as silk either
way, and I can find no difference in performance between
the two. It will probably be difficult to get a definite
statement regarding this from MS but I see this, as before,
a tussle between the engineers and the marketing people.
Do you find a new date on your fs9.exe file?
s --------------------------------------------------------

>-----Original Message-----
>>I'm sure that you've been better briefed on this than I,
>>but what I found is that the upgrade did install OK with
>>the NoCD fs9.exe in place.
>
>Are you absolutely sure of this? What is the version
number (file
>properties) of your current fs9.exe? The update has always
refused to
>install on the no-cd crack version, it modifies original
files to keep
>the patch size reasonable and do not simply replace them,
if it
>installed over modified exe or dll the update *is*
incomplete...
>
>
>---
>All the Best
>Katy Pluta, MS_MVP for Simulators
>http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>
>Asking questions the right way:
>http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm#Asking
>
>FS FAQ at http://www.simflight.com
>
>Visit Project Magenta!
>http://www.projectmagenta.com
>
>.
>
 
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katy,

the no cd (504kbs) that i have ,has the same version # as original
fs9app.(1.32mb)
read post below.


"Katy" <katypluta@hotmail.invalid> wrote in message
news:c24gm0hgherbij2643np9fs8lv106n2qhm@4ax.com...
> >I'm sure that you've been better briefed on this than I,
> >but what I found is that the upgrade did install OK with
> >the NoCD fs9.exe in place.
>
> Are you absolutely sure of this? What is the version number (file
> properties) of your current fs9.exe? The update has always refused to
> install on the no-cd crack version, it modifies original files to keep
> the patch size reasonable and do not simply replace them, if it
> installed over modified exe or dll the update *is* incomplete...
>
>
> ---
> All the Best
> Katy Pluta, MS_MVP for Simulators
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>
> Asking questions the right way:
> http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm#Asking
>
> FS FAQ at http://www.simflight.com
>
> Visit Project Magenta!
> http://www.projectmagenta.com
>
 
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Sender: "Katy" katypluta@hotmail.invalid
Date Of Posting: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 05:17:25 GMT
Newsgroup(s): microsoft.public.games.zone.simulation
Subject: Re: fs2004 update

What they said was......

> No, no, no, the fs9.exe has been updated and you will miss several
> important updates if you use the old cracked one, use the CD for now
> or don't install the update...

Best is to make a Virtual CDrom and run Disk 4 from your Harddrive
Thats if you have the Hard drive space

Regards
 
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.games.zone.simulation (More info?)

>I have now tried it both ways. In neither case is fs9.exe
>itself modified.

Then the update did not install

>The upgrade went smooth as silk either
>way, and I can find no difference in performance between
>the two. It will probably be difficult to get a definite
>statement regarding this from MS

If you don't believe what I say... Their statement is written all over
the update download page and in the readme, what else do you need?

It's quite simple really, check the version number from the file's
properties:
fs9.exe English original 9.0.0.30612
fs9.exe English no-cd 9.0.0.30612
fs9.exe English update 9.1.0.40901


---
All the Best
Katy Pluta, MS_MVP for Simulators
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/

Asking questions the right way:
http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm#Asking

FS FAQ at http://www.simflight.com

Visit Project Magenta!
http://www.projectmagenta.com
 
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sam,

if you have any doubts if update installed correctly, do as i mentioned
below.

un-install update per instructions from
http://www.microsoft.com/games/flightsimulator/fs2004_update9.1_english.asp#overview

put back in original fs9.exe English original 9.0.0.30612

install update, now you should have fs9.exe English update 9.1.0.40901

then what i did was copy\paste fs9.exe English update 9.1.0.40901 to a
folder for later use, then re paste fs9.exe English no-cd 9.0.0.30612 .

all is well as far as i can see 🙂




"Katy" <katypluta@hotmail.invalid> wrote in message
news:3f7gm0trstj4ikqclqridu3c6ntpf61rv1@4ax.com...
> >I have now tried it both ways. In neither case is fs9.exe
> >itself modified.
>
> Then the update did not install
>
> >The upgrade went smooth as silk either
> >way, and I can find no difference in performance between
> >the two. It will probably be difficult to get a definite
> >statement regarding this from MS
>
> If you don't believe what I say... Their statement is written all over
> the update download page and in the readme, what else do you need?
>
> It's quite simple really, check the version number from the file's
> properties:
> fs9.exe English original 9.0.0.30612
> fs9.exe English no-cd 9.0.0.30612
> fs9.exe English update 9.1.0.40901
>
>
> ---
> All the Best
> Katy Pluta, MS_MVP for Simulators
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>
> Asking questions the right way:
> http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm#Asking
>
> FS FAQ at http://www.simflight.com
>
> Visit Project Magenta!
> http://www.projectmagenta.com
>
 
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.games.zone.simulation (More info?)

hi again Katy and 'me' -
I have two installations of FS9 on different hard drives
with one set up using the NoCD fs9.exe and one with the
original. When I go to Help/About I get the same Ver 9.1
info in either one. I'll run both for a while and let you
know if I can find a difference. So far, I can't, but I
do believe FPS are slightly better in both than before,
and overall, everything seems to be working very well.
As before, durn it all - No complaints.
In the meantime, if you would like to see a comparison
run on any particular feature or charteristic, let me
know.
s ------------------------------------------------------



>-----Original Message-----
>sam,
>
> if you have any doubts if update installed correctly, do
as i mentioned
>below.
>
>un-install update per instructions from
>http://www.microsoft.com/games/flightsimulator/fs2004_update9.1_english.asp#overview
>
>put back in original fs9.exe English original 9.0.0.30612
>
>install update, now you should have fs9.exe English update
9.1.0.40901
>
>then what i did was copy\paste fs9.exe English update
9.1.0.40901 to a
>folder for later use, then re paste fs9.exe English no-cd
9.0.0.30612 .
>
>all is well as far as i can see 🙂
>
>
>
>
>"Katy" <katypluta@hotmail.invalid> wrote in message
>news:3f7gm0trstj4ikqclqridu3c6ntpf61rv1@4ax.com...
>> >I have now tried it both ways. In neither case is fs9.exe
>> >itself modified.
>>
>> Then the update did not install
>>
>> >The upgrade went smooth as silk either
>> >way, and I can find no difference in performance between
>> >the two. It will probably be difficult to get a definite
>> >statement regarding this from MS
>>
>> If you don't believe what I say... Their statement is
written all over
>> the update download page and in the readme, what else do
you need?
>>
>> It's quite simple really, check the version number from
the file's
>> properties:
>> fs9.exe English original 9.0.0.30612
>> fs9.exe English no-cd 9.0.0.30612
>> fs9.exe English update 9.1.0.40901
>>
>>
>> ---
>> All the Best
>> Katy Pluta, MS_MVP for Simulators
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>>
>> Asking questions the right way:
>> http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm#Asking
>>
>> FS FAQ at http://www.simflight.com
>>
>> Visit Project Magenta!
>> http://www.projectmagenta.com
>>
>
>
>.
>
 
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heh..
<found this conversation humorous>

Microsoft should support their cracked versions better ^_^
<digs around for cd 4>

I *really* hope FS10 doesn't require a cd. it just inconveinces the legit
users.


--
**********
Sharon "shu" Short



"Katy" <katypluta@hotmail.invalid> wrote in message
news:3f7gm0trstj4ikqclqridu3c6ntpf61rv1@4ax.com...
> >I have now tried it both ways. In neither case is fs9.exe
> >itself modified.
>
> Then the update did not install
>
> >The upgrade went smooth as silk either
> >way, and I can find no difference in performance between
> >the two. It will probably be difficult to get a definite
> >statement regarding this from MS
>
> If you don't believe what I say... Their statement is written all over
> the update download page and in the readme, what else do you need?
>
> It's quite simple really, check the version number from the file's
> properties:
> fs9.exe English original 9.0.0.30612
> fs9.exe English no-cd 9.0.0.30612
> fs9.exe English update 9.1.0.40901
>
>
> ---
> All the Best
> Katy Pluta, MS_MVP for Simulators
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>
> Asking questions the right way:
> http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm#Asking
>
> FS FAQ at http://www.simflight.com
>
> Visit Project Magenta!
> http://www.projectmagenta.com
>
 
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M$FT is researching the concept of putting a credit card
on a CD and will require that it be placed in the tray so
that they can charge you an hourly fee for FS10.

>-----Original Message-----
>heh..
><found this conversation humorous>
>
>Microsoft should support their cracked versions better ^_^
><digs around for cd 4>
>
>I *really* hope FS10 doesn't require a cd. it just
inconveinces the legit
>users.
>
>
>--
>**********
>Sharon "shu" Short
>
>
>
>"Katy" <katypluta@hotmail.invalid> wrote in message
>news:3f7gm0trstj4ikqclqridu3c6ntpf61rv1@4ax.com...
>> >I have now tried it both ways. In neither case is fs9.exe
>> >itself modified.
>>
>> Then the update did not install
>>
>> >The upgrade went smooth as silk either
>> >way, and I can find no difference in performance between
>> >the two. It will probably be difficult to get a definite
>> >statement regarding this from MS
>>
>> If you don't believe what I say... Their statement is
written all over
>> the update download page and in the readme, what else do
you need?
>>
>> It's quite simple really, check the version number from
the file's
>> properties:
>> fs9.exe English original 9.0.0.30612
>> fs9.exe English no-cd 9.0.0.30612
>> fs9.exe English update 9.1.0.40901
>>
>>
>> ---
>> All the Best
>> Katy Pluta, MS_MVP for Simulators
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>>
>> Asking questions the right way:
>> http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm#Asking
>>
>> FS FAQ at http://www.simflight.com
>>
>> Visit Project Magenta!
>> http://www.projectmagenta.com
>>
>
>
>.
>
 
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sam,

i must admit, the contrails now look alot cooler 🙂

don't know if that was a result of patch or what. i didn't see that on list
of improvements.


"sam" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1fb601c4ae3e$eba4ada0$a301280a@phx.gbl...
hi again Katy and 'me' -
I have two installations of FS9 on different hard drives
with one set up using the NoCD fs9.exe and one with the
original. When I go to Help/About I get the same Ver 9.1
info in either one. I'll run both for a while and let you
know if I can find a difference. So far, I can't, but I
do believe FPS are slightly better in both than before,
and overall, everything seems to be working very well.
As before, durn it all - No complaints.
In the meantime, if you would like to see a comparison
run on any particular feature or charteristic, let me
know.
s ------------------------------------------------------



>-----Original Message-----
>sam,
>
> if you have any doubts if update installed correctly, do
as i mentioned
>below.
>
>un-install update per instructions from
>http://www.microsoft.com/games/flightsimulator/fs2004_update9.1_english.asp
#overview
>
>put back in original fs9.exe English original 9.0.0.30612
>
>install update, now you should have fs9.exe English update
9.1.0.40901
>
>then what i did was copy\paste fs9.exe English update
9.1.0.40901 to a
>folder for later use, then re paste fs9.exe English no-cd
9.0.0.30612 .
>
>all is well as far as i can see 🙂
>
>
>
>
>"Katy" <katypluta@hotmail.invalid> wrote in message
>news:3f7gm0trstj4ikqclqridu3c6ntpf61rv1@4ax.com...
>> >I have now tried it both ways. In neither case is fs9.exe
>> >itself modified.
>>
>> Then the update did not install
>>
>> >The upgrade went smooth as silk either
>> >way, and I can find no difference in performance between
>> >the two. It will probably be difficult to get a definite
>> >statement regarding this from MS
>>
>> If you don't believe what I say... Their statement is
written all over
>> the update download page and in the readme, what else do
you need?
>>
>> It's quite simple really, check the version number from
the file's
>> properties:
>> fs9.exe English original 9.0.0.30612
>> fs9.exe English no-cd 9.0.0.30612
>> fs9.exe English update 9.1.0.40901
>>
>>
>> ---
>> All the Best
>> Katy Pluta, MS_MVP for Simulators
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>>
>> Asking questions the right way:
>> http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm#Asking
>>
>> FS FAQ at http://www.simflight.com
>>
>> Visit Project Magenta!
>> http://www.projectmagenta.com
>>
>
>
>.
>
 
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