fsb ripoff?

kkrouse

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hi

I bought an hp laptop for my wife. It is a zv5330us. I bought it in main because it touted itself as having an 800 mgz fsb. I decided to upgrade the ram and naturally bought a 1024 ddr 400 chip. Having to look at things more closely I noticed that the replacement part for the ram from hp was 333. It turns out that the onboard 256 mb ram is 333. Now did I get ripped or not. Even if the northwood board is quad pumped 4 times it still has to go through the ram and back out again. With the weakest link in mind I don't see how this can be sold as having an 800 fsb. the mem I bought will default to the lower speed. I don't even think you can change the onboard module though maybe you can with a lot more take apart effort.
 
Question is, can you modify the FSB in the bios?
And when you say "onboard memory chip" to you mean the one that came with the laptop or its litteraly onboard(solder to the Mobo?
Not many laptops let you adjust the FSb in the bios but if that the case you might be able to ditch the DDR333 and simply use the 1 gig ddr400 and run it 1/1 with the cpu...Thats not likely tough so you might have paid a premium for nothin!

Also read carefully it probably said: 800 mhz Cpu FSB, not memory.

Asus P4P800DX, P4C 2.6ghz@3.25ghz, 2X512 OCZ PC4000 3-4-4-8, Leadtek FX5900 w/ FX5950U bios@500/1000, 2X30gig Raid0
 
If your specs and invoice says 256MB of DDR400 then you got ripped, if they list what was supplied, you just are not an informed buyer.

Remember when PC's went mainstream and the average Joes and housewives filed a class action suit because their 15 and 17 inch CRT's did not display 15 and 17 inches. I had purchaced two displays, that I refused to cash rebate that was sent to me, since I was not duped.

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Well, This all sounds depressing!
Anyway, I did find out that the onboard memory is replaceable. It is just a pain to access. I looked in the bios, however, and it is crap. There are virtually no controls for anything that might matter. I am still a little weak on the FSB issue I guess. I thought that FSB meant the bandwidth on the bus from the processor through the memory and then back out again,ie. usable bandwidth. Is the pipe coming out of the ram called back side bus? If FSB is just up to the memory then it seems to me to be a worthless measurement. The big question at this point is does HP change its board specs from OEM like Dell does. Or do they just rebrand the board. If it is the latter, then maybe I can find out the oem board numbers and reflash it with the oem bios for that board. It seems to me, in my naivette, that an 800 fsb machine was probably designed by intel to run ddr 400 not ddr 366. Call me a newbie.