Fugger on K8

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Just ran into this old thread.. for a good laugh:

<A HREF="http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=279073#279073" target="_new">AMD selected to use dual 32bit cores instead of a true 64bit core, with that they could have exploited the SMP capabilites of dual cores coupled with internal northbridge. this would have been a logical path to take. This truely would have been SMP on a chip. So we do know the Hammer will not be SMP for 32bit apps.

<b>AMD elected to use software massaged code morphing to add zero's to 32 bit code leaving 1 core useless as its passes zero's</b>. and software morphing is gonna take a 64bit string break it into 2 32bit strings and feed each core. how much overhead is this morphing gonna use?</A>

I think that deserves an Oscar for cluelessness. How come no one corrected this BS ? He didnt post it only once, but in at least 5 different threads. I guess I wasnt around...

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Reading that thread is good reading to anybody who wants better to understand Fugger's way of thinking. His brain works a bit like a cuckoo clock from Hell. It can tick away accurately for many minutes, but then skips couple of hours and returns back ticking normally again like nothings happened.

It must be very convenient to Fugger, but very irritating to the rest of the world.
 
:smile:

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He might be snorting canned air!





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Have you acquired your own glider yet?

That really looks like an enjoying thing to do and an awesome experience!!! :smile:






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>Have you acquired your own glider yet?

Yes; well, I bought myself into a self launch glider, so I only own half a glider :)

>That really looks like an enjoying thing to do and an
>awesome experience!!!

If you want to get a taste, I highly recommend buying <A HREF="http://www.condorsoaring.com/media.htm" target="_new">Condor soaring sim</A>. Its really amazingly close to the real thing and an awesome game. Also looks much better than what the screenshots would make you believe.

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Thanks for the Link! That really looks cool! :smile:



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dhlucke

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Be nice to Fugger. He's not even here to defend himself.

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>Be nice to Fugger. He's not even here to defend himself.

I am being nice to him.. not only am I nominating him for an oscar, I even resisted the temptation to quote his comments about investing in SGI stocks :)

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endyen

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It can tick away accurately for many minutes, but then skips couple of hours and returns back ticking normally again like nothings happened.
Got a link? I've never seen his "normal ticking", unless of course you consider his insane OCs "normal"Though of course he is a legend in his own mind.
 

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Show us the benchmarks where fugger performs like a normal human being, instead of overheating like he normally does.

All the benchmarks we've seen him, he seems to be suffering from throttling problems<font color=blue>*</font color=blue>


<pre><font color=blue>* well, at least something is restricting bloodflow to the head I would guess</font color=blue></pre><p>
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I can't help but think his favourite Grandmother was run over by an AMD delivery truck or something. I really can't see any other logical reason for his aversion to AMD.

Would be very interesting to see what a man of his undoubted talents could do with a FX-57 or so...

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Crashman

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Be nice to Fugger. He's not even here to defend himself.

That's because he's too busy managing the site he stole, from the group that regrouped to found Xtreme Resources.

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Yah, fugger was like that. When he got going into a full-blown AMD bash, he would apparently start making things up as he went along. Like saying fans typically failed within <A HREF="http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=238635#238635" target="_new">about a year.</A>

And, of course, his infamous 3Dmark score farce.

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"RAID-minus-one?"

"Yeah. You have two hard drives, neither of which can actually boot."</i>
 

dhlucke

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Man, talk about bringing back the dead. I know how to get ahold of you now. I'll just climb a mountain top and yell out fugger's name.

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<A HREF="http://www.x86-64.org/documentation/assembly" target="_new">I'll just climb a mountain top and yell out fugger's name.
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Please take the time to google zero extend and code morphing thanks.

I eat babies while listening to satanic music too...

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Lets get this straight: you still stand by those ludicrous claims ?

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Lets get this straight, you are still a moron. All seriousness aside did you take the time to research or you just want to circle jerk a bit more?

<A HREF="http://www.xtremesystems.org" target="_new">www.xtremesystems.org</A><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by fugger on 10/12/05 04:24 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
 

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I dont expect any amount of research to come up with a half credible explanation how "one core would be wasted passing zero's" (especially on a single core cpu ?) or how the K8 implements code morphing, let alone how it wouldnt be able to support SMP on 32 bit code,..so no, I really can't be bothered.

Instead, maybe you should do some reading upon what "zero extending" is all about, and how it impacts performance (it doesnt).

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*points and laughs*

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Thank you Fugghead.
Now we all know it is actually P4man who's being the moron in here, instead of you.
Thanks for the clarification, Fugghead. We stand corrected.

[Fugger] AMD selected to use dual 32bit cores instead of a true 64bit core, with that they could have exploited the SMP capabilites of dual cores coupled with internal northbridge. this would have been a logical path to take. This truely would have been SMP on a chip. So we do know the Hammer will not be SMP for 32bit apps. [no end of fugger in sight]


You are still not getting it. Are you?
I have never, ever, met a creature like you. You are unique, I must give you that.
You should be embalmed alive and put hanging below Spits sticky.

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Man, talk about bringing back the dead. I know how to get ahold of you now. I'll just climb a mountain top and yell out fugger's name.
LOL, yeah, about the only reason I even check in here anymore is the flame wars. I rather enjoy those. So sue me. *shrug*

Speaking of which, look what happened, now that we uttered his name three times (or more). :wink:

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"RAID-minus-one?"

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Chargrilled will take to long. Just bake it.

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