Futureproof build, able to run cryengine 3 Ultra settings

[Doctopus]

Hello,

I am planning to build a new pc able to run cryengine 3 (Star Citizen) in ultra settings in 2k resolution, and I need some guidance. Bassically I don't know if I would need SLI or a more powerful PSU. Also I cannot decide from 2 motherboards, and maybe the CPU is overkill. The RAM brand is unknown to me, so any positive or negative feedback would be appreciated. Here are the parts:

CPU: Core i7-5820K, LGA2011-V3, 3,3 GHz,15Mb
MOBO: Asus X99-A, LGA2011-v3, Intel X99, DDR4, ATX
Or
Gigabyte X99-UD4, Intel X99 Mainboard - Socket 2011-V3
RAM: Crucial 8GB (2x4GB) Ballistix Sport DDR4 CL16 1.2V
PSU: XFX 650W XXX Edition Semi Modular ATX, 80+ Bronze
GPU: Gygabyte GTX 970 Gaming, 4GB GDDR5, PCI-E 3.0
CPU Cooler: Cooler master Hyper 212 EVO LGA2011/1366/115x/775, AM3/3+/2/2+
Chasis cooler (x4): Silverstone SST-AP121-RL

Total price: 1693.32$

I have thought of going for an I7 4790k with Asus sabertooth mobo and DDR3, it would reduce the price about 300$ but the additional 2 cores of the 5820k make me want to take the leap. What would you reccomend?

 

[Novuake]

There is very little to zero benefit for going for the 2011 platform above 1150.

 

[faalin]

Get quad channel ram since the x99 boards support it. Look at ether G.skill or Mushkin ram, both of them use the same chips for their ram and are high quality.

 

[Novuake]

Get quad channel ram since the x99 boards support it. Look at ether G.skill or Mushkin ram, both of them use the same chips for their ram and are high quality.

There is no difference between dual and quad channel RAM, its just marketing.

You need to of the same chips to run dual channel and 4 to run quad channel, that is what matters.

 

[faalin]

Get quad channel ram since the x99 boards support it. Look at ether G.skill or Mushkin ram, both of them use the same chips for their ram and are high quality.

There is no difference between dual and quad channel RAM, its just marketing.

You need to of the same chips to run dual channel and 4 to run quad channel, that is what matters.

That is where you are wrong.

TweakTown, using SiSoftware Sandra, measured around 70% increase in performance of a quadruple-channel configuration, when compared to a dual-channel configuration.

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/4416/intel_x79_quad_channel_and_z68_dual_channel_memory_performance_analysis/index6.html

 

[Novuake]

That is where you are wrong.

TweakTown, using SiSoftware Sandra, measured around 70% increase in performance of a quadruple-channel configuration, when compared to a dual-channel configuration.

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/4416/intel_x79_quad_channel_and_z68_dual_channel_memory_performance_analysis/index6.html

I am not talking about performance.

 

[faalin]

although you dont have to buy any ram in pairs, you should. Yes you can buy 2 of the same exact single sticks and put them in dual channel, same with 3 and 4 sticks in triple and quad channel. It is also highly not recommended to do that. Sticks sold in packs are made from the same bin and are tested to work with each other.

Buying two dual channel packs to put in quad channel, while yes can still be done, once again is not recommended since its not guaranteed that the two packs will work together. While you claim it to be just marketing there is a good reason manufactures do this. They are guaranteeing that all sticks in a quad channel pack will work together at the speed and timings advertised, they on the other hand are not guaranteeing that 2 dual channel packs will run in quad channel mode at the ratted speed or timings on the pack.

That is why the sell dual, triple, and quad packs of ram, it also covers their ass when you call and complain when your 2 dual channel kits are not playing nicely with each other in quad channel when they laugh and say you should have bought a quad channel kit.

 

[Doctopus]

I have been reading and many people agree that the 2011 platform makes no difference in gaming whatsoever. As much as I would like a 6 core it's pointless if games won't take advantage of it.
Would this be a better build?:

CPU: Intel Haswell i7-4790K, LGA1150, 4.0GHz, 8MB
Mobo: Asus SABERTOOTH Z97 MARK 2, LGA1150, Intel Z97, DDR3, ATX
RAM: Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) Vengeance Pro DDR3 1600MHz, 9-9-9-24, 1.5V
PSU: XFX 650W XXX Edition Semi Modular ATX, 80+ Bronze
GPU: Gygabyte GTX 970 Gaming, 4GB GDDR5, PCI-E 3.0
CPU Cooler: Cooler master Hyper 212 EVO LGA2011/1366/115x/775, AM3/3+/2/2+
Chasis cooler (x4): Silverstone SST-AP121-RL

 

[faalin]

CPU: i5 4690k
Mobo: Asus SABERTOOTH Z97 MARK 2, LGA1150, Intel Z97, DDR3, ATX
RAM: Mushkin Enhanced Redline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 2400MHz, 10-12-12-28
PSU: XFX 650W XXX Edition Semi Modular ATX, 80+ Bronze
GPU: Gygabyte GTX 970 Gaming, 4GB GDDR5, PCI-E 3.0
CPU Cooler: Cooler master Hyper 212 EVO LGA2011/1366/115x/775, AM3/3+/2/2+
Chasis cooler (x4): Silverstone SST-AP121-RL

Changed the cpu to an i5, for gaming that is all you need. An i7 is way overkill and you will see no performance boost form it, also saves you $100. also changed your ram out to 2400MHz 10-12-12-28 which will be a lot faster and was the same price. Corsair has become the alienware of ram, they were good back in the day but have kinda fallen from a high end brand to middle ground but still hold the price tag of high end ram. Mushkin and G.Skill are both very high end ram, both of them use the same chips, and overclock very well past their recommended settings.

Just as a side note of price point, Mushkin 2400mhz CAS 10 $92 the only set corsair offers in the same speed is $145 (newegg search). Both run the same speed and CAS timings, Corsair is just ridding on its name now a days.

 

[Doctopus]

Thank you both for your replies.

 

[Ce3in]

How About going lga 1150 which will reduce the total price. You can then later add an another gpu for sli.

 

[Ce3in]

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vwTXMp
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vwTXMp/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($225.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14CS_RD 88.6 CFM CPU Cooler ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-G55 SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($117.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($349.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($349.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($80.99 @ NCIX US)
Chassis cooler (x4): Silverstone SST-AP121-RL
Total: $1504.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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