FX 57 ripoff?????

[illicitsc]

ok i'll get straight to the point..

an FX55 is 2.6ghz with 200mhz fsb and 13x multiplier UNLOCKED

so...

if u go buy and fX57 ur getting 2.8ghz with 200mhz fsb and 14 multiplier UNLOCKED

so..

UR BUYING AN OVER CLOCKED FX-55 for 200 more friken buks...!!!!!!!!

WHY ARE ENTHUSIASTS SO STUPIDE????

 

[mpjesse]

In a way, yes you are right. But if you think about it, what's the difference between a Pentium D 840 and 830? 200mhz clock speed. And yet there's a $200 difference in price! HOWEVER, there is a process in testing cores and a reason enthusiasts go for the highest clocked cores.

Not all cores are created equally (this is the reason for so many different clock speeds). For example, one tested core might be rated/test to run at 2.8Ghz while another is weaker and cannot perform at 2.8Ghz so they clock it at 2.6Ghz and it runs fine.

So generally speaking, if you get a FX 57 2.8Ghz, you're going to be able to overclock it higher than say a FX-55 2.6Ghz. Also, there's no guarantee that you'll get the 2.6Ghz up to 2.8Ghz because again, it's a weaker core.

Make sense?

-mpjesse

 

[illicitsc]

thx for the input!

so an fx57 is just vanilla +200mhz with a warrantee

o ya one more thing..y are the scores on future mark's site so bullshit..theres guys with 6600gt with 8000 in 3dmark 05.. impossible..

Athlon 64 3000+ @ 2.6ghz 1.52v (939 E3 venice)
asus a8n - e mobo
1gb kingston value ram 3-3-3-8 2t
msi nvidia 6600gt

 

[TheMaster]

lol so has amd passed the 3ghz mark yet,
or are they still making 2 ghz cpus?

 

[illicitsc]

still i nthe 2 ghz range..whocares they own intel anyday

 

[TheMaster]

i just think its funny when people want to "upgrade" their 3.0 ghz intel for a dual amd core... that runs at 2.6 ghz. Esepecially that the dual core doesn't really help that much in games that are gpu limited.

 

[illicitsc]

i just think its funny when people want to trade in their 3.0 ghz intel for a dual amd core... that runs at 2.6 ghz.

"flame bait"

WHAT??? are u a fricken??? NOOB???
some master u are..hmm..2.6 dual core.. thats teh fx60!!!!!
i'd trash that piece of crap intel 3.0ghz for an fx60 any day!

 

[TheMaster]

amd fan boys :roll:
want to show off their e-penis and yet still cant reach 3.0 ghz. :tongue: :mrgreen:

 

[bourgeoisdude]

The results speak louder than spec sheets, dude. GHz != speed, remember more is involved. What if there were a SATA II 4200RPM hard drive? Or a 15000RPM UltraATA33 drive? Intel's gotta bigger GHz rating that in reality is limited by their suckey chipset/Northbridge designs. Whatever--rant all you want about it, I'll just ignore you.

 

[illicitsc]

ghz is not a measurement of length!
and even if your intel is higher clocked .. it doesnt even coem close to my 2.6 ghz athlon..performance wise..(in bed as well)

notice that im useing value ram in my OC not oc ram and my cpu is single core u douche

themaster is a n00b!

 

[TheMaster]

since when is 3200 or DDR 400 overclock ram?!?
i was just lucky that corsair has a bit of overhead.

ok so my cpu is slower than yours... but only theoretically. (3 > 2.6)
Your video card would still bottleneck my 4 year old pc!
wtf would you get a 6600 for such an uber machine?

Get a better video card. n00b.

 

[illicitsc]

ok im going to ignore u like bourgousdude
btw i believe 6600gt is better than the 9800pro by a bit

 

[TheMaster]

yea its 4 years old... and im upgrading it.
btw i just checked some benchies and 9800 pro is faster than 6600gt in some opengl games...

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/geforce_6600_GT_scaling_performance_pentium4/page2.asp

Ouch...

 

[illicitsc]

ok ur one noob...click next on the link u gave me..

1st. the game on the link ive never even heard of..
2nd. the only other bench your 9800p wins in is a D3D
3rd. 9800p gets stomped in everyother bench

also dont look at the low settings bench cuz they are bull

 

[Heyyou27]

Hmmm...interesting. My AMD Athlon X2 4800+ clocked at 2.62GHz with 2GB of RAM and dual evga 7800 GTs outperforms your PC on any game or benchmark.

 

[aceprowler]

Please keep the forum posts to topics at hand guys. I come here to learn, not to see some idiot, and look ever more like one.

Let’s all just laugh at the people that still buy Intel chips because they are faster only in MHZ, ONLY. Us people who know how to read really know the truth. No need for flame wars.

Besides, my Dual Voodoo2 owns you all, with my Celeron 3billion gigacrap Intel chip. I run F.E.A.R. on Ultra High setting on my Windows 95 with no lag at all on my 33.6k modem.

Come on guys, lol.

 

[illicitsc]

Hmmm...interesting. My AMD Athlon X2 4800+ clocked at 2.62GHz with 2GB of RAM and dual evga 7800 GTs outperforms your PC on any game or benchmark.

no really? our speecs are miles apart

 

[Heyyou27]

Please keep the forum posts to topics at hand guys. I come here to learn, not to see some idiot, look ever more like one.

Lets all just laugh at the people that still buy Intel chips because they are faster only in MHZ, ONLY. Us people who know how to read really know the truth. No need for flame wars.

Besides, my Dual Voodoo2 owns you all, with my Celeron 3billion gigacrap Intel chip. I run F.E.A.R. on Ultra High setting with no lag on my 33.6k modem.

Come on guys, lol.

Yeah, you're right. But I find it funny people arguing about it, when both PCs are really not that good.

 

[pat]

lol so has amd passed the 3ghz mark yet,
or are they still making 2 ghz cpus?

Hurray!!!! That's what this forum was lacking for a while.. A troll!!!

Welcome!

We have a new troll!! Celebrate!!!

 

[aceprowler]

Yeah, you're right. But I find it funny people arguing about it, when both PCs are really not that good.

True, but my computer is a AMD 3200barton, 9700pro, NF7-2.0, 1gig dual. 2, 20gig 10k rpm raid drives. 80gig 7200 W.D. It's well over a year old build now. I run all game fine on med to high settings. I play all games and I'm alway in the top 10 in each round or map. I am going to be going to 64 bit once more programs catch up. Or more games go 64bit.

I just built my bro his first computer, 64bit x800xt, which i was very impressed, but not for the price to get that quality yet!

I've tried that x800xt AGP in my system, sure I got a kick ass bench on GL-excess, 19000's, but it's not worth the $250 for that kind of visual upgrade. So really, it's all about braggin rights.

 

[illicitsc]

Yeah, you're right. But I find it funny people arguing about it, when both PCs are really not that good.

at least im making the most outa wat i got

 

[p05esto]

you guys argue about the difference between amd/intel like you could even tell the difference. $50 says a blind test of two computers running each similarly equiped processor and NO ONE could tell the difference or know which was which.

You guys are too hyper about this stuff. Both processors kick ass and are leaps beyond what things were a year or two ago. I believe each processor has slight strengths over each other so it depends a little on what you are doing. Let's all just kiss and make up.

Personally I had bad experiences with AMD chips and thought they seemed unstable so I switched a few years ago to intel and have been happy as a plum. Probably will never go back. Right or wrong, we make decisions based on past experience. Someone here probably had just the opposite experience.

 

[mpjesse]

since when is 3200 or DDR 400 overclock ram?!?

When it's CAS 2. I've gotten my CAS 2 DDR400 over 230Mhz/460Mhz easily.

-mpjesse

 

[TheMaster]

True, but my computer is a AMD 3200barton, 9700pro

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So you run F.E.A.R. on 800 X 600 ?
That must look worse than wolfenstein 3d... :mrgreen:

that is definately worth an upgrade.

and yes i agree, most of you couldnt tell the difference
between an overpriced 7800gtx running FEAR at MAX on an amd or intel.

 

[TheMaster]

my fsb is 800 mhz, stock. i have an intel not an amd.
it runs in dual channel mode, unlike the measely 400mhz bus on an amd.

if i wanted oc ram i'd get something higher rated than ddr400.. obviously.

400x2 = 800

I dont look at manufacturer spec sheets to buy memory.