I have an FX-6300.Cause of the latest game's high requirements im looking to oc it.I have an Xigmatek Aegir SD 128264,and a Corsair VS550W power supply.I know that i should upgrade my psu first but i need recommendations on this matter.Any help would be great.
FX-6300 OC,how to do etc.
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OC'ing any processor with an unlocked CPU clock multiplier is very easy. Enter BIOS and find the multiplier. Increase it one 'click' at a time, save, boot to Win and run something like Intel Burn Test at its default settings for the default 10 pass run. Watch your temps to be sure they stay in the save zone. If it passes, repeat. Eventually, the increases will cause the CPU to become unstable. At that point you can either back off to the last safe setting and live with it, or you can increase the vcore (CPU VID) a tiny bit to bring it back to being stable. But for now, just stick with the multi increases.
http://www.techspot.com/downloads/4965-intelburntest.html
But you don't mention what gfx card you have it mated with. It may not do any good to OC the CPU if the card is the problem. It may not even be needed. And your PSU is a good quality unit. It may be adequate for OC'ing as is if the card isn't too much for it.
http://www.techspot.com/downloads/4965-intelburntest.html
But you don't mention what gfx card you have it mated with. It may not do any good to OC the CPU if the card is the problem. It may not even be needed. And your PSU is a good quality unit. It may be adequate for OC'ing as is if the card isn't too much for it.
Im looking to buy and r9 280x 3gb,so i guess i wont have space for oc'ing.As for your answer,i appreciate it,but i dont really understand how to do those things.If you could help with a video type of thing,you would be the best!Thanks anyway 😉.And plz tell me how that intelburntest works 😉
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Turbo Boost is a function of the processor that allows it to increase the clock speed of several of the cores when it isn't using all of them. As Long as it can maintain the 95W envelope, it will increase the clock rate up to its Turbo limit when needed.
When you OC, you should probably disable Turbo Boost in BIOS first. It will make OC'ing more stable.
But you sound a bit shy of doing anything in BIOS. There is an alternative. Download AMD's Over Drive and do your OC'ing in it. Once you have a stable OC, you can set one of its options to make those changes in BIOS for you.
http://www.techspot.com/downloads/4645-amd-overdrive.html
It also allows you to monitor Thermal Margin. That is the (core temperature) room you have left before the processor goes into throttling mode.
Here is a guide to using AOD if you need it: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fsites.amd.com%2Fus%2FDocuments%2FAMD_FX_Performance_Tuning_Guide.pdf&ei=7io0VPG5KcW2yASakID4CA&usg=AFQjCNGS8w4ELNvvU1qNs6H1UJKEYe3F9g&sig2=v6XTJWLAcsvBs0yZpk294g&bvm=bv.76943099,d.aWw
Thanks for everything man,your the best.I think that i'll have more questions in the future so be rdy 😉
P.S.What you mean by saying: ''Once you have a stable OC, you can set one of its options to make those changes in BIOS for you''.Can you plz explain in a more simple way?Thanks in advance!
P.S.What you mean by saying: ''Once you have a stable OC, you can set one of its options to make those changes in BIOS for you''.Can you plz explain in a more simple way?Thanks in advance!
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No prob.
What I meant was, making changes in AOD only 'stick' for that session. Soon as you reboot, the settings you had established revert back to default settings.
But there is an option in AOD that allows you to select to have the changes you've made permanently changed in BIOS. I'm not on my AMD machine right now, so I can't look up the exact path to what I'm talking about. But once you download AOD and snoop around, you'll find it. Download it and run it. It's pretty easy to use.
What I meant was, making changes in AOD only 'stick' for that session. Soon as you reboot, the settings you had established revert back to default settings.
But there is an option in AOD that allows you to select to have the changes you've made permanently changed in BIOS. I'm not on my AMD machine right now, so I can't look up the exact path to what I'm talking about. But once you download AOD and snoop around, you'll find it. Download it and run it. It's pretty easy to use.
I opened the AOD.I went into the Clock/Voltage Tab.There is a tab that says Trubo Core Control,and from there i can increase the cpu ghz up to 4.1.Is that what you mean?Also,if you can answer to my previous question(.What you mean by saying: ''Once you have a stable OC, you can set one of its options to make those changes in BIOS for you'').Thanks for everything once more !
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I just answered your ''Once you have a stable OC, you can set one of its options to make those changes in BIOS for you'' question.
As to the Turbo Core Control question, all you want to do for now is use it to turn OFF turbo. Then use the CPU clock slider to gradually increase the multiplier.
As to the Turbo Core Control question, all you want to do for now is use it to turn OFF turbo. Then use the CPU clock slider to gradually increase the multiplier.
Sry i dindnt saw that you answered my question cause i wrote too fast,my wrong.i'm excited, that's all 😛.It is hard to find someone that can steal some time to teach oc'ing to a noob like meh 😛,but thanks to you and Tom's hardware it is possbile after all 😉.As for the option to make things permanent in every pc boot,i opened the Preferences Tab in the top right corner,and after that i clicked settings.There,under the Misc tab,there is an option that says:''Apply my last setting when system boots.''Is that what you mean?
You are right man,i applied the settings to be the ones i used in the last time,and after i booted it was saying 3.6 and not 3.5 like it used to say 😉.Now,if i try to push it,for example, at 3.8,how much should i put the cpu vid and nb vid.I should put them in the higer or lower voltage,or leave it at 1.750 and 1.625 each,like it was when i had 3.5ghz?Do i need to change anything else than the multiplier slider and the cpu and nb vid?
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I would just keep increasing the multiplier until you have an unstable stress test. Then either live with the last stable setting or increase the CPU VID a small increment at a time. I wouldn't go higher than 1.45v. The CPU NB no higher than 1.35v. But keep in mind that these are dynamic and may change 'on their own'.
I can go 1.550 v tops in the cpu vid,and 1.550 nb vid, and the numbers turn red when put it at that voltage,which means that 1.450v which you suggesting is too much,when i slide the multiplier at 4ghz.How can i figure out if its stable,without taking any risks?Only with aod stability test?
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There are 2 different Northbridges (NB), the CPU NB and the NB chipset. Which are you talking about?
1.45v CPU VID (vcore) is safe. That is the same as it reaches in Turbo Mode.
Red doesn't mean too much, just a range you are getting into at your own risk. That's why I said, take the multi up as far as you can and still be stable. Only play around with the voltages when you get more experience. Have you even read the AOD guide?
1.45v CPU VID (vcore) is safe. That is the same as it reaches in Turbo Mode.
Red doesn't mean too much, just a range you are getting into at your own risk. That's why I said, take the multi up as far as you can and still be stable. Only play around with the voltages when you get more experience. Have you even read the AOD guide?
I ment the cpu nb,which in the aod guide photos,from the link you gave me,is right next to cpu vid.Right now,at 3,5 ghz,cpu vid is at 1.750,and nb vid is at 1.625.I keep the same numbers,when i silde the multiplier at 20x at 4ghz.You are right about the aod guide.I red it twice and i understand some things,but i have a question concerning the cpu vid and nb vid voltages.Is it necessary to turn increase the voltage of them when i increase the mutliplier,or is it my choice alone?
P.S.Concerning the multiplier,i've opened some tabs in the internet and watched a movie,with the cpu core speed at 4ghz,and the system responds smoothly.Is a good sign,or it just means nothing,cause it is not a real test,like gaming?
P.S.Concerning the multiplier,i've opened some tabs in the internet and watched a movie,with the cpu core speed at 4ghz,and the system responds smoothly.Is a good sign,or it just means nothing,cause it is not a real test,like gaming?
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I don't have the AOD open right now, but I believe the NB VID slider next to the CPU VID slider is the chipset NB, not the CPU VID. You may have to use the BIOS to make the CPU VID change if your MB BIOS is sophisticated enough to list it.
But I think you are trying to make too many changes at one time. And ones you don't know enough about. Best to stick with the multiplier and )if necessary) the CPU VID alone for now. That's all I usually bother with myself. Any added freq I may get by going any further isn't worth the wear and tear on the system... to me.
What are you using to stress test the OC for stability?
But I think you are trying to make too many changes at one time. And ones you don't know enough about. Best to stick with the multiplier and )if necessary) the CPU VID alone for now. That's all I usually bother with myself. Any added freq I may get by going any further isn't worth the wear and tear on the system... to me.
What are you using to stress test the OC for stability?
I don't use any programm(if you can propose a simple one that i can use and understand how it works,i would be much indebted 😀), for the stress test.Only the stability test from the aod programm,that doesn't give much info,only green-safe-like indications while it's testing the cpu cores ,when i run it.As for the cpu vid,i meant if i have to raise it every time while sliding the multiplier,because if i dont raise it,the cores are gonna get underpowered or sth?
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I have issues with the AOD stress test. I prefer to use Intel Burn Test for my initial OC testing.
http://www.techspot.com/downloads/4965-intelburntest.html
Simply use it at its default settings (10 pass run) and it will tell you if the OC is stable. Only takes a few minutes depending on the speed of your processor. If I want to gather more proof, I'll run prime95 with small FFTs for an hour. That's enough to satisfy me. In fact, even after passing IBT alone, I've never had a OC cause a crash. I usually just rely on it.
http://www.techspot.com/downloads/4965-intelburntest.html
Simply use it at its default settings (10 pass run) and it will tell you if the OC is stable. Only takes a few minutes depending on the speed of your processor. If I want to gather more proof, I'll run prime95 with small FFTs for an hour. That's enough to satisfy me. In fact, even after passing IBT alone, I've never had a OC cause a crash. I usually just rely on it.
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4GHz is a safe OC. Considering the turbo speed for the FX-6300 is 4.1GHZ, you really haven't gained too much other than making all 4 modules run at that speed all the time instead of just when some cores are inactive.
Is 4GHz as high as you could go and still be stable?
Is 4GHz as high as you could go and still be stable?
I haven't tried going higher,cause i thought this is the safe speed,since it is also the turbo speed limit.I could try at 4.5,but it could push the psu too far,or the cooler?You think 4.5 oc is enough for heavy tasks like online gaming(battlefield) and stuff?
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You've got a good PSU, but it's specs are right at the margin for the R9-280X and heavy OC'ing. The 280X is a 250W card at max performance (21 amps @ +12V), the 95W FX-6300 is probably closer to 125W (10.4 amps @ +12V) when it gets to 4.5GHz. Plus the MB, drives, fans, and any lighting which will add a few more amps.
The PSU has a 42A/504W rating for the +12V rail. You've still got a little headroom, but it is always best to keep the PSU at around 80% load if possible.
Game at 4GHz for awhile and see how it goes. If you monitor your CPU usage when gaming, see if it peaks near 100%. It shouldn't, but if it does, you may be CPU bottlenecked. I really doubt that will happen, though.
The PSU has a 42A/504W rating for the +12V rail. You've still got a little headroom, but it is always best to keep the PSU at around 80% load if possible.
Game at 4GHz for awhile and see how it goes. If you monitor your CPU usage when gaming, see if it peaks near 100%. It shouldn't, but if it does, you may be CPU bottlenecked. I really doubt that will happen, though.
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