FX-6300 or new Ryzen 3 1300?

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So currently I have an AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4GHz which is getting old and starting to struggle on newer games, though I'm impressed with how well it peforms considering how old it is. But I wanted to buy a new CPU thats cheap and I found the 6300 to be a good choice since it is cheap and fits my motherboard while still improving performance. However, I just saw that AMD released the new Ryzen 3 CPUs, 1200 and 1300x and cost just a little more than the 6300 did. Question is, would it be worth for me to invest in the Ryzen 3 1300x and a new motherboard or just buy the 6300 and overclock it? Of course the ryzen 1300x would have better performance but how much? I'm not really making any money right now so buying both the Ryzen 3 1300x and a new motherboard would cost alot for me.
 
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In real life, I probably have no more than 30-40 plugins on a rather large session. EQ, compression, reverb primarily. The D-Verb test is just a standardized test so ProTools users can compare the performance of their rigs. If 2 similar rigs are getting significantly different D-Verb scores, then one of the rigs has some configuration or other software issues that have to be investigated.

Good luck with your new rig!


So you're saying I should get the Ryzen 3 1300? I do play some CPU intensive games like DayZ, Rust, Squad. I just looked a little bit more into and getting a Ryzen 3 1300x for around $165 will in the end cost me around $350 since I would need a new motherboard aswell as new DDR4 RAM since it seems like no AM4 motherboard supports DDR3 RAM which is what I am using right now.
 


Would I not even notice a difference in CPU intensive games such as DayZ, Rust and games like that? Getting the Ryzen 3 would be really expensive for me. Seems like there really are no good upgrades for me that aren't too expensive.
 

What is your GPU? DayZ and Rust aren't that well optimized so getting a 6 core processor that has almost the same cores as the Phenom II X4 965 won't get you much.
 


I recently upgraded from an MSI GTX 750Ti 2GB to an MSI GTX 1050Ti 4GB.

 


Not really alot. Hard situation. Kinda want an upgrade but either the upgrade doesn't do much or is expensive. The CPU hasn't been out for long at all but do you know how much better the Ryzen 3 1300x is than the FX-6300? If it is MUCH better than of course it would be worth saving the money for the Ryzen.
 


It is much better. Look @ benchmarks.

Save up for a complete platform change rather than getting the 6300, which won't help in those games that only hammer a single core. FX single-thread performance is abysmal.

I say this as a FX-8320 owner, soon to upgrade.
 


Yeah, I guess the good thing with saving up for the Ryzen setup would be that I can upgrade it alot later on if I would like to get the Ryzen 5 or 7. I guess changing to a newer platform will have to be done at some point in the future anyways. Thanks for the responses. I'll live with my Phenom for a while more til I can get the CPU, mobo and RAM. Btw, is the 1300x basically just an overclocked 1200?

 
If you can find a used FX 6300 for a good price, it might be a decent stopgap improvement. Here are the Passmark scores for your cpu, the 6300 and Ryzen 1200 (There were no scores for the Ryzen 1300 yet):

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My Passmark score for my FX 6300 overclocked to 3900 Mhz was 7,040. I can overclock it to 4100 Mhz, but I didn't run Passmark with it at that frequency.

But I would generally agree with the advice given.

Edit: Is your motherboard AM3+? You would need that for the FX 6300.

If you can save up for a Ryzen 5 (or even 7), there is a significant improvement:

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Yeah, I'm not too into buying used computer parts. I'll save up for the Ryzen setup and use my Phenom for now on. My Phenom is actually still working pretty good, running games like the "new" Battlefront on high around 50-60 fps. One problem I have with it is that it runs really hot and I don't know how long it'll last. I had to buy a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo just to keep the temps acceptable. The CPU and cooler are fitted correctly. Other reason is that some of the games like Rust and DayZ get 40-60fps on low settings but stutter fairly often in combat. Generally just want a new CPU since mine is 8 years old. As said before, getting the AM4 motherboard and Ryzen 3 will also set me up for an upgrade from the Ryzen 3 later on.

Edit: My motherboard supports both AM3 and AM3+ so I can have an FX cpu in my computer. I really don't wanna spend more than the Ryzen 3. Just getting the Ryzen 3 with the motherboard and RAM will cost me alot.
 
I agree. Saving up for the Ryzen 3 is your best bet. From what I understand the "x" models have a higher base frequency than the non "x" models, so you can buy the cheaper non "x" and overclock it to the "x" base frequency.

I still have a Phenom II x6 1045t in my Pro Tools audio recording rig and it is still able to keep up, even on high track count sessions with lots of plug-ins.

Edit: I see my Passport comparison links above didn't work (it cleared out the cpu's I was comparing).
 


Same for me. I use REAPER to record music and never had any trouble, though I never really have many tracks. If I have alot of tracks all playing things at once the audio starts stuttering a bit but almost never use that many tracks. But to me on topic, I will just get the Ryzen 3 1200 and overclock it. As said I have the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo so I should be able to overclock it a bit.
 
Did you change your mind with respect to the Ryzen 1300 and are now going with the 1200?

I can run a maximum of 48 stereo audio tracks at once, plus a bunch of aux tracks. In Pro Tools we use the "D-Verb" test to see how capable our rigs are. We set up 48 mono audio tracks plus some aux tracks and insert the D-Verb (reverb) plugin on all inserts for each track (5 per track). Then record 5 minutes of a test tone (another plugin) to one of the tracks, and then copy it to all of the audio tracks and aux tracks. Then hit play and the test tone needs to play on all tracks for a solid 5 minutes with no hiccups. Then you keep adding aux tracks and D-Verbs until it consumes all of the cpu power and the system stops. I got up to something like 320 D-Verbs on my rig. Some guys can get much higher with i7 rigs.

With high track counts, the biggest limiting factor is how fast the system can record and play back from the HDD. However you can use more than 1 HDDs as audio drives and use round-robin allocation, so Pro Tools will write the tracks to the various drives. I tried this just for fun once and it worked, but my sessions usually have no more than 20 audio tracks, maybe 5 aux tracks and 2 or 3 instrument (midi) tracks, so I just need the 1 audio drive in addition to my OS drive.
 


The FX IS DEAD, it will barely outperform the phenom II

FX CPUs were a disaster, clock per clock they're probably on pair with a phenom II, you won't see much of a diffence you are going to be better off with an overclocked phenom II

The ryzen 3 lineup is the way to go if you want a serious upgrade. Mind you, ryzen 3 CPU is a much better than any 8-core from the FX lineup
 



AMD pricing is a bit silly, if you can afford a ryzen 3 1200 + aftermarket cooling I think you should go for the R5 1400 instead. It's a bit more money but you get 4 cores-8 threads rather than 4 cores, 4 threads.

That's not to say the R3s are bad, they are great but as I always say you should take advantage of the fact that AMD has made REAL-MULTICORE so affordable for us
 


I already have the cooler so I won't be buying that.
 



It depends make sure it has an AM4 bracket for ryzen compatibility, if you bought it time ago you can ask for the attachment system on the manufacturer's website.

Some motherboards do have AM3 mounting holes which means you can use your old cooler without any extra equipment provided your cooler has support for AM3/AM3+ platform.

But not all of them be very careful when you choose one if you want to do so
 
You will see no difference between the r3 1200, the r5 1400 and the r5 1600 because you have the gtx 1050 ti and because rust is a single threaded game. Also just get the r3 1200 instead of the r3 1300x and overclock it to 3.8ghz (3.9 if you're lucky), the performance will almost be the same as the r3 1300x at 4ghz.
 


Cooler Master has released an AM4 bracket for the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo.
 


Yeah, I decided to get the 1200.