FX 6300 Performance using Prime 95 and Core Temp

[Soprano187]

Hello friendly helpers and thanks for opening my question!

I am a first-time builder at the point of stress testing my system. I have three questions actually:

1. In Core Temp my idle temp was 10C; now I live in cold England but still figured that must be wrong, so after doing some reading I saw that I should read the temp off my bios (Asus M5a97) - which was 30C - and adjust accordingly, so I applied a 20C difference in Core Temp's adjust function. Is this the right thing to do?

2. Whilst Prime 95 is running I've noticed that my cores are running at 100% load but the speed does not exceed 2997mhz. Shouldn't the 6300 reach 3.5 - 4.1 turbo as standard?

3. Is it really necessary to leave Prime 95 running for some crazy long time? I've left it going now for an hour and my max temp is 48C. I have installed an Enermax T40 although I'm concerned my temp is low because my clock speed is low.

Any advice is much appreciated folks!

 

[getochkn]

you should use openhardwaremonitor or hwinfo64. There will be two temps, the core temp, and the cpu/socket temp. The socket temp is what is reported in the bios. The safe limits for the socket is about 70c and for the core about 60c.

Yes it reads 10c or lower, that's AMD's thing for the core temps when they are low. Don't pay attention to them. If you watch the monitor they just up 20-30c to the real temps within a few seconds. Don't add offsets, it can mess things up, just use a different tool.

Core temps are easy to keep low, socket temps are where the heat builds up and usually stops an overclock before the core does. Only real way to keep socket temps down that I've seen is cut a hole in the other side of your case and mount a small fan blowing cool air on the socket or they attach a fan there and leave the side of the case off. I'm not that extreme, so I just back off my overclock a bit. lol.

 

[Soprano187]

Thanks for the response.

Only problem is, why are my temps so low then if Core Temp is right? I'm an hour into Prime 95 and without the adjust my temp is 26C..? And why is my speed not exceeding 3ghz?

Thanks if anyone can help

 

[getochkn]

then something is throttling, maybe the core temp is 26c because it's running low because the socket temp is getting too high. As I said, ditch core temp right now and run the programs I run, see how high the speeds get, and the core temp and the mb temp.

also what MB do you have.

post a screen sheet of one of those programs up here showing all your number so can see your fsb settings and everything.

 

[getochkn]

Here's a screenshot of mine with hwinfo64

CPU 0: That is the core temp. Should never hit above 60c MAX.

CPU: This is the socket temp. This should never go above 70c MAX.
Motherboard: Not sure what this is. Mine never seems to move from 29c. lol. The above two are the important ones.

That is after 10 intel burn in test runs and liquid cooling for my cpu, 6 fans, etc.

 

[Soprano187]

Ok dude, I ditched Core Temp, here's my pic, obviously I've only just started running Prime 95 again.

Does everything look ok? First time I've ever uploaded an image, just took me ages working it out, hope it works:

 

[getochkn]

It worked. now let it run for 5 minutes then take another pic and post and lets compare.

 

[Soprano187]

This is after nearly half hour now:



What I am concerned about is:

1. Which temp am I primarily concerned with?
2. Although my speed shows a max of 4.1ghz (the turbo speed), how come I never see it actually reach above 3.5-3.6 even under 100% load?
3. How do I know the speeds in Open Hardware Monitor are correct and not the ones in Core Temp?

Thanks for helping me through this

 

[getochkn]

yes, your cores aren't being loaded fully or seen for some reason. What motherboard, did you install the chipset drivers?

In the openhardwaremonitor page, go to view, columns and enable min. see if your cpu is stuck at this speed or going lower.

I would suggest chipset drivers first, then figure out what bios you have and what we can try to change there.

 

[Soprano187]

Asus m5a97 2.0 mobo, I haven't installed any chipset drivers no.

I have enabled min, the cores all show 1405 min but isn't the value column what they are actually running at? Those all flicker around 3.0-3.5ghz.

 

[getochkn]

Asus m5a97 2.0 mobo, I haven't installed any chipset drivers no.

I have enabled min, the cores all show 1405 min but isn't the value column what they are actually running at? Those all flicker around 3.0-3.5ghz.

k, min shows that it is downclocking and not stuck at a number. Yes, for some reason it's not ramping up. First go to the Asus site and download the AMD chipset drivers. This will help make sure the OS can recongize the board, cpu, sensors all properly. Then we can look at your bios options. I had that board last week till I traded up but the bios is about the same as mine and as long as you can get there and change some settings, should be able to get to the bottom of it.

also try running intel burn in test, and run that instead of prime and see if that loads your cores or gets hardware monitor showing some higher numbers.

 

[getochkn]

^^ agree with above, turbo core is weird. I disable it and just set the multiplier to that number instead so all cores will OC to that rate.

 

[Soprano187]

Ok I'm on it, but I don't find chipset drivers on Asus's website..?

 

[Soprano187]

Hello friendly helpers and thanks for opening my question!

I am a first-time builder at the point of stress testing my system. I have three questions actually:

1. In Core Temp my idle temp was 10C; now I live in cold England but still figured that must be wrong, so after doing some reading I saw that I should read the temp off my bios (Asus M5a97) - which was 30C - and adjust accordingly, so I applied a 20C difference in Core Temp's adjust function. Is this the right thing to do?

2. Whilst Prime 95 is running I've noticed that my cores are running at 100% load but the speed does not exceed 2997mhz. Shouldn't the 6300 reach 3.5 - 4.1 turbo as standard?

3. Is it really necessary to leave Prime 95 running for some crazy long time? I've left it going now for an hour and my max temp is 48C. I have installed an Enermax T40 although I'm concerned my temp is low because my clock speed is low.

Any advice is much appreciated folks!

1) You cannot rely on idle core temperature when it comes to AMD. Only when the core temp hit 40c and above, the sensor starts to be accurate. So adding 10-20c on top is pointless.

Max safe temps for all FX processors are;
Socket = 70c
Core = 61c

2) Usually TurboCore will only kick in when there's headroom available, not when all cores are loaded 100%. For instance if you have a game that is only using 2 cores, TurboCore will activate on those 2 cores to give you slightly better performance.

3) I recommend at least an hour so you get proper heat buildup not only on the cpu and socket, but also inside the case. Sometimes it can take more than 8 hours before an error occurs, but I usually stick with just one hour.

Thanks a bunch man, that makes sense, I thought perhaps it only hits above 3.5 in limited situations outside the scope of Prime 95. And I just read about Temp measurements being accurate for AMD's provided they increase to moderate temps, so that makes sense why these programs show low temps.

So bottom line here, can I just leave stuff as is? No need for further drivers and such? It is actually running at top speed with v. good temperatures?

Thanks guys