[SOLVED] FX 6300 runs best at 3.8Ghz?

[rscheetah30]

I have an FX6300 that apparently is faster at 3.8Ghz rather than 4.0Ghz or even 4.5Ghz.
Why is this:

My specs:

Windows 11
CPU: FX6300
RAM: 8GB DDR3
GPU: R7 240 2GB
MB: M5A78L-M LX V2
psu: Gamemax GP650 650W
2 HD's

 

[white.a.drew]

I have an FX6300 that apparently is faster at 3.8Ghz rather than 4.0Ghz or even 4.5Ghz.
Why is this:

My specs:

Windows 11
CPU: FX6300
GPU: R7 240 2GB
MB: M5A78L-M LX V2
psu: Gamemax GP650 650W
2 HD's

It could be the factor that the system your running isnt meant to run windows 11 to start so it's stressing it out....
The other issue is the system your running is older it's about time to expect the system to start to wear down after a select time period nothing runs 100% for life.

Another thing to consider is the thermal paste age and other things causing over heating causing thermal throttling

 

[rscheetah30]

It could be the factor that the system your running isnt meant to run windows 11 to start so it's stressing it out....
The other issue is the system your running is older it's about time to expect the system to start to wear down after a select time period nothing runs 100% for life.

Another thing to consider is the thermal paste age and other things causing over heating causing thermal throttling

Yes, I'm currently dual booting Windows 10 and 11 and Windows 10 is faster than 11 on my hardware. As for the thermal paste, I don't know if it would improve the situation
because my cpu temps are absolutely normal, maybe even lower than average. It runs at 40ºC idle and 70ºC under load.

 

[white.a.drew]

Yes, I'm currently dual booting Windows 10 and 11 and Windows 10 is faster than 11 on my hardware. As for the thermal paste, I don't know if it would improve the situation
because my cpu temps are absolutely normal, maybe even lower than average. It runs at 40ºC idle and 70ºC under load.

That's about avg for the CPU yes... Yeah your main problem probably lays within windows 11 not being compatible at all with your specs. So it's failing to communicate properly with the system

 

[drea.drechsler]

I have an FX6300 that apparently is faster at 3.8Ghz rather than 4.0Ghz or even 4.5Ghz.
Why is this:

My specs:

Windows 11
CPU: FX6300
RAM: 8GB DDR3
GPU: R7 240 2GB
MB: M5A78L-M LX V2
psu: Gamemax GP650 650W
2 HD's

The problem is the motherboard: FX CPU's will try to maintain their TDP rating (95W for an FX6300) even when overclocked and that motherboard doesn't have the necessary BIOS control to disable it. But further, that board's VRM is inadequate for an overclocked 6 core so as it overheats it throttles the processor to keep from burning up.

As you overclock it further it's throttling itself in various ways and simply delivering less performance.

Your PSU is quite likely part of the problem too but that motherboard will never allow you to get the full benefit of overclocking.

 

[geofelt]

Likely, your motherboard vrm's do not have sufficient cooling to handle top speeds.
See what happens if you take the side cover off and direct a fan at the innards.

 

[white.a.drew]

The problem is the motherboard: FX CPU's will try to maintain their TDP rating (95W for an FX6300) even when overclocked and that motherboard doesn't have the necessary BIOS control to disable it. But further, that board's VRM is inadequate for an overclocked 6 core so as it overheats it throttles the processor to keep from burning up.

As you overclock it further it's throttling itself in various ways and simply delivering less performance.

Your PSU is quite likely part of the problem too but that motherboard will never allow you to get the full benefit of overclocking.

If you read his other post you would see that he has no issues in windows 10 mostly it is just windows 11..... Windows 11 isn't built to support this system or any parts in it.... Which is causing the system to freak out trying to decode info that was never meant for it's cpu

 

[drea.drechsler]

If you read his other post you would see that he has no issues in windows 10 mostly it is just windows 11..... Windows 11 isn't built to support this system or any parts in it.... Which is causing the system to freak out trying to decode info that was never meant for it's cpu

I've no idea why it would behave this way on Win11, but I am aware the processor is not Win 11 compatible since I have one. It may be a good idea to revert to Win10 but that won't make the motherboard or processor behave any different when overclocking. What he's seeing is exactly what I and others have seen on similar boards when overclocking FX6300's....or worse, FX83x0 8 core.

In at least one other of his posts he's describing a problem that could be caused by his very low-end PSU. He seems to have a lot going on.

 

[jnjnilson6]

Remember how a Pentium III at 1.4 GHz could easily equal a Pentium 4 at 2.0 GHz? It may be that the 6300 running at 3800 MHz does more per cycle due to its architecture than when the frequency goes far beyond. This may be a combination of firmware and generally the architecture of the CPU itself. Maybe if you tweak some other settings in the BIOS its full power will be released at higher clocks too.

 

[jnjnilson6]

This can happen when you overclock graphics cards as well. The frequencies are higher, yet the frame rate might drop, some frames may not be processed properly, but instead skimpily and staggeringly, and generally the experience may not be smooth as the GPU skedaddles forward in order to maintain the speed.

I've had a Celeron 1.3 GHz Tualatin which I overclocked to 1.5 GHz. And well, the frequency was higher indeed, but you could feel the Processor practically dying in order to maintain it and despite the higher regularity of the cycles, the quality of operations was lower and you felt that everything was forced and oddly inconclusive in terms of Processor operation; as though the proper evaluation and weighing of the instructions was within a thin and pale world which left operations processed only half-well and speeded to move along, breathing out dying visions of before conclusive and consecutive things. Don't get me wrong - things did work; but you just had this feeling that the CPU was forcing itself to keep up and it wasn't pretty - like making a champion with high temperature run a 5 mile marathon. The work was done in the end, but not the same way in which it would've been done at default frequencies; not the same way a healthy person would have run the marathon, despite not being a champion.

Maybe a synonymous thing is happening here too.