FX 8120 8 core vs i7 3770k ivy bridge 3.50

[Taldarin]

Hey guys, i have a AMD Fx 8120 and i am about to order the i7 3770k ivy bridge 3.5

I stayed with fx 8120 for an year and i'm ok with it but i want something more powerful, my opinion was to buy the i7 3770k ivy bridge 3.5 and i wanted to ask you guys

is this i7 ALOT better then 8120 ? A little ? Will i or wont i see big improvements ? Thank you

 

[siddharthmukul007]

i7 indeed is a lot better than the 8120.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-8120+Eight-Core

 

[Taldarin]

Yes, thats why i want to buy it ....to upgrade my pc, but is it a good upgrade ? i mean is it worth buying it ? or i wont notice big differences ?

 

[Onus]

Although it depends on the game, and many are more dependent on the graphics card, the FX-8120 is a Bulldozer chip, which disappointed many in terms of performance. For games (and applications) that are not dependent on the graphics card, it will be a substantial improvement. If it were me, I'd do it; or get an i5-3570K if you don't want to spend quite as much.

 

[enemy1g]

I'd say it would be a huge upgrade as i7s are some of the fastest processors in the world, and bulldozer (x1xx) CPUs are generally regarded as trash.

 

[Taldarin]

Yeah...i had some problems with it to be honest, mainly it was ok ...put aside those BSOD's on some games and some grips in the fps

I'm sorry i did not mention that the upgrade is 90% for games.

 

[laviniuc]

I'd say it would be a huge upgrade as i7s are some of the fastest processors in the world, and bulldozer (x1xx) CPUs are generally regarded as trash.

and thus began another amd vs intel thread....

no. bulldozer was not trash. op same as other happy users will confirm that for you. it performs somewhere in between the i3-5 sandy bridge cpu-s depending on how many threads you throw at it. and since it costs just about the same i see no problem. yes, it's not as efficient as the intels but trash is too harsh.

noticing a cpu improvement is harder than you think. so an upgrade from bulldozer to sandy bridge i7 would not be as easy to notice as you say! (even in the benchmarks that favor single core performance the increases are up to 50%) and i stress out, benchmarks.

if you want something that you will notice, get an ssd instead. or if you're running on 4gb ram go to 8gb.

 

[laviniuc]

Yeah...i had some problems with it to be honest, mainly it was ok ...put aside those BSOD's on some games and some grips in the fps

I'm sorry i did not mention that the upgrade is 90% for games.

ok, and so my previous post went out in smoke. for games, yes, a i5 3/4 series is better about 20-30% better. or you could get a fx 8320 to get about the same results and it doesnt require a new motherboard.

the ssd though is not a gaming upgrade... what's your gpu?

 

[Taldarin]

i am running on 8 and going on 16gb with this upgrade, not enough funds for a better CPU then i7 3770k. It was more a question of should i or should i not ? Judging by the fact that the money you once gave on the 8120 are wasted since you can't really sell 2nd hand hardware that easely really.

 

[Taldarin]

Yeah...i had some problems with it to be honest, mainly it was ok ...put aside those BSOD's on some games and some grips in the fps

I'm sorry i did not mention that the upgrade is 90% for games.

ok, and so my previous post went out in smoke. for games, yes, a i5 3/4 series is better about 20-30% better. or you could get a fx 8320 to get about the same results and it doesnt require a new motherboard.

the ssd though is not a gaming upgrade... what's your gpu?

GTX 660 4gb and planning on buying another mobo wich is slightly better then this one and i have to upgrade bios from 1.6 to 1.8 asweal or the pc won't work, no monitor image 🙁

After having problems with fx 8120 i wanna change things a little and go on intel. i don't want to stay in fear that my next favorite game MIGHT or MIGHT not give a blue screen on me, i am sure its a good CPU but meh i don't wanna risk it, i never had intel, only amd CPU's thats why i opened the thread in the first place, don't know how i7 reacts on games, especially this one

 

[Taldarin]

It just did not feel right to upgrade from fx 8120 to 8350, i just feel like a throw a lot of money in a very short time for a little upgrade. Dunno, ofc everything i say is an opinion, not that experienced in this field

 

[laviniuc]

1) no need to go from 8 to 16gb ram. i dont think you'd see a difference in any games.

i think your options should be between:
-new motherboard and i5 4670K but keep the gtx 660
-current motherboard and 8320 and a new gpu instead.

yes, it's a tough decision... not sure what i'd do myself to be honest.

 

[laviniuc]

It just did not feel right to upgrade from fx 8120 to 8350, i just feel like a throw a lot of money in a very short time for a little upgrade. Dunno, ofc everything i say is an opinion, not that experienced in this field

http://www.overclock.net/t/1408955/fx-8350-vs-i5-4670k-in-terms-of-gaming a couple of examples here...

 

[Tom Tancredi]

Just to toss something else in this mix. If this wasn't a home built system, but say a Dell, Gateway, etc. you can't just 'replace the mobo & CPU' and all will be happy. Windows sold with OEM systems is ONLY allowed (and only works) on that Mobo, CPU and CASE (yes some of them even check for the case connected). If your going to replace your mobo (you can't run i7 on a AMD board) then you may need to go to the store buy a off the shelf Windows copy, then wipe your drive and do a completely clean install again.

 

[Onus]

Keep in mind that you will need a new motherboard as well, which typically means a new Windows license. Now pardon me for story time...

See my .sig. I recently upgraded Omega from a 965BE to the FX-8320. I can feel a difference, but not in games, as my current titles are undemanding. A confounding factor is that prior to this weekend, Omega had a HD7970 in it, not the GTX650Ti it has now. Even with the HD7970 though, it was never as snappy as Phoenix, with its i5-3570K. Since putting in the FX-8320, the differences there are slight. Both systems have 8GB of RAM and use SSD system drives, so the experiential difference pretty much comes down to the CPU. I think the FX-8120 would have been similar to the 965BE, and I could always feel the difference between that and the i5-3570K. If you play demanding games, I think the upgrade is worthwhile. If you don't, you may feel a small difference, but it won't be worth the money. What may make a difference, and also the reason I removed the HD7970, is power usage. The FX-8320 seems to jump around a bit, but definitely uses more power than the i5-3570K. On its own, it probably isn't a difference worth mentioning, but is one more small detail in favor of the i5.

 

[rds1220]

I'd say it would be a huge upgrade as i7s are some of the fastest processors in the world, and bulldozer (x1xx) CPUs are generally regarded as trash.

and thus began another amd vs intel thread....

no. bulldozer was not trash. op same as other happy users will confirm that for you. it performs somewhere in between the i3-5 sandy bridge cpu-s depending on how many threads you throw at it. and since it costs just about the same i see no problem. yes, it's not as efficient as the intels but trash is too harsh.

noticing a cpu improvement is harder than you think. so an upgrade from bulldozer to sandy bridge i7 would not be as easy to notice as you say! (even in the benchmarks that favor single core performance the increases are up to 50%) and i stress out, benchmarks.

if you want something that you will notice, get an ssd instead. or if you're running on 4gb ram go to 8gb.

Do I detect some AMD fanboy butthurt?

 

[Onus]

After re-reading your original post, a question that must be asked is, what doesn't run as well as you'd like?
For myself, I'd take the FX-8120 and a SSD, hands down, over an i5 (or i7) with a mechanical drive; the whole system is much snappier, even though a SSD does NOTHING for frame rates in games.

 

[laviniuc]

I'd say it would be a huge upgrade as i7s are some of the fastest processors in the world, and bulldozer (x1xx) CPUs are generally regarded as trash.

and thus began another amd vs intel thread....

no. bulldozer was not trash. op same as other happy users will confirm that for you. it performs somewhere in between the i3-5 sandy bridge cpu-s depending on how many threads you throw at it. and since it costs just about the same i see no problem. yes, it's not as efficient as the intels but trash is too harsh.

noticing a cpu improvement is harder than you think. so an upgrade from bulldozer to sandy bridge i7 would not be as easy to notice as you say! (even in the benchmarks that favor single core performance the increases are up to 50%) and i stress out, benchmarks.

if you want something that you will notice, get an ssd instead. or if you're running on 4gb ram go to 8gb.

Do I detect some AMD fanboy butthurt?

funny but no, i don't advocate either of them, i just had a problem with the bulldozer being called trash. it wasn't the best move amd made but still it was a good value cpu. i didn't like their "throw cores at the problem and ignore efficiency" approach but hey, it was an 8 core priced right in the end.

 

[rds1220]

The SSD is not a gaming upgrade it really does nothing for you except give you faster boot times faster map loads and the ability to brag that you have an SSD. It still doesn't mask the underlining problem that the Bulldozers were a joke and they were much slower in games.

 

[laviniuc]

The SSD is not a gaming upgrade it really does nothing for you except give you faster boot times faster map loads and the ability to brag that you have an SSD. It still doesn't mask the underlining problem that the Bulldozers were a joke and they were much slower in games.

and i said the ssd is not needed in games as soon as he replied that the rig is for games if you read 😀. the ssd upgrade is not a bragging rights upgrade, not by far and i was suggesting it because he wanted to see big improvements. you see those with a non gaming oriented pc regardless of which cpu it has.

yes, bulldozer is not doing great in games. i know, we all know. it still costs fewer than an i5 cpu which still made it very good value.

 

[Onus]

If you are experiencing FPS lags, then no a SSD won't help you. If you're in and out of games and other applications a lot, or like to play with lots of different things and are always installing/uninstalling software, then a SSD will make a huge difference. It gets back to what is motivating this upgrade. What are you most wanting to improve?

 

[FALC0N]

I would do the 8320 or 8350 as well. Your saving a lot of money and headache, as others have said. Those they good chips.

We're talking about saving a couple hundred $$$ and you would likely have a hard time telling them appart unless they were side by side.

 

[Taldarin]

Well problem is i work on my home pc asweal and enter / exit games and install uninstall software asweal, but my main goal right now is games since they take most of my time and i don't need a better pc for painting in PS so that part is cool. the problem now is that i ordered the setup i said and even with the new mobo PC won't work, PC starts, no image on the monitor, replaced the i7 with another processor, monitor still does not work. they had to send the mobo back and i told them to get my old pc back since i need it home to work, now what ?? :|...

 

[laviniuc]

i guess the new motherboard is probably defective... it can happen...

 

[Onus]

Did someone just move your drives from the old PC to the new one? Windows must be reloaded when the motherboard is changed, particularly if everything about it is different. None of the drivers will match. A "repair" installation may seem to work, but may never be entirely "right."