Fx 8350 and Asrock 970 Extreme 3 rev.2 freezes

[Mircea Benga]

Hello, I have a Fx 8350@4ghz, 4X4gb Hyperx 1600 Mhz on a Asrock Extreme 3 rev. 2 motherboard, a geeforce 1060 6gb. except that I have lower writiing ram speeds (half) and gpu performing 25% lower than usual scores, I begin playing AC Origins. PC cover of, an 12cm blowing on the mb, and a noctua cooler (bought it very cheap without the fan) and attached a thermalright 14 cm fan. The temps seem ok, but i'll change the thermal paste to go even lower. The freezes succeded rarely, especially in iddle, played far cry primal (no freezes, uses low cpu) but in Ac Origins with Cpu 80-85% blocked 45fps. freezes every one or two hours, specially after I undervolted from 1.375 1.35V. Please tell what should I do, cause i'm a little affraid to play with the voltages, thank you! ps: with the frezes I've lost few hours of play, now I copy save folder every 1-2 hours...

 

[stevenjemint]

Have you overclocked the CPU?

How are the temperatures at full load?

 

[Mircea Benga]

Have you overclocked the CPU?

How are the temperatures at full load?

Hello! In cpu id: Package max 48C, CPUTIN3: MAX 61-63, but with 45fps tap max: 42C (package) and max 58-59C CPUTIN3, i think socket temo or vrm?
Now I think that the higher temp is the real cpu temp, as it's shown in the Asrock tunner. Mb tem is 40C

 

[stevenjemint]

Its more than likely 1 of 2 things.

Its either getting too hot at full load or its not getting enough voltage.

I would advised you increase the voltage a small amount and see it if it continues to happen.

Drop the voltage to 1.3v if its getting hot or you can go up to 1.4v safely if its not getting enough voltage.

 

[kyzarvs]

As an 8350 owner with a 1080ti (used to run Strix 970) - I'm guessing temps. They are really easy to overheat and the throttling is quite severe. I only noticed it on Forza Horizon 4, where it would throttle from 100+ to 15fps. Not many other games (even VR) seemed to load the CPU as much to the point of overheat.

Run something that records max temps like openhardware monitor in the background - if you are hitting high 50's then its a cooling issue. On mine the heatsink was pretty dusty, a good clean and a slightly more agressive map on my case fans and I've not had a problem since. Also check that Cool n' Quiet is operating properly (openhardware monitor is good for that too) - I had an issue where the cores weren't throttling back properly when unloaded which generated heat for no reason.

 

[Mircea Benga]

As an 8350 owner with a 1080ti (used to run Strix 970) - I'm guessing temps. They are really easy to overheat and the throttling is quite severe. I only noticed it on Forza Horizon 4, where it would throttle from 100+ to 15fps. Not many other games (even VR) seemed to load the CPU as much to the point of overheat.

Run something that records max temps like openhardware monitor in the background - if you are hitting high 50's then its a cooling issue. On mine the heatsink was pretty dusty, a good clean and a slightly more agressive map on my case fans and I've not had a problem since. Also check that Cool n' Quiet is operating properly (openhardware monitor is good for that too) - I had an issue where the cores weren't throttling back properly when unloaded which generated heat for no reason.

hi! yau have a 1080 ti on this cpu, i think it's bottleneching your gpu, I have a tought that is's bottlenecking even my 1060 6gb gpu. since I have 25% lower passmark results even than 1060 3gb model, I have 7500 points and, someone on youtube reached 10000+ points with an later generation intel cpu. thank you for you tip. I ran prime95, after few seconds: freeze. I from 1.35V to 1.385 (1.375 was default i think) for few minutes and no crash, Cputin uped to 62C. (think that package temp that was 48C is not the real cput temp)and I stopped because I went to work. When I go home I'll change the thermal paste and try to put a small cooler on the vrm, and a 12 cm fan to pull out the hot air, having a top down cooler keeps the hotnes inside even if the cover is off. I don't understand well, I set up from Asrock Oc tunner the cpu to 1.385V, ran prime95, wathed open hardware and cpuid: when all cores 100%: max 1.328V max constantly, even cpu id reported a max 1.36V witch i never saw even in torture test. what is the reality? Thank you!

 

[Mircea Benga]

Its more than likely 1 of 2 things.

Its either getting too hot at full load or its not getting enough voltage.

I would advised you increase the voltage a small amount and see it if it continues to happen.

Drop the voltage to 1.3v if its getting hot or you can go up to 1.4v safely if its not getting enough voltage.

Hello! I think it was a little undervolted, I was always caution not to exced 61c CPUTIN. I ran prime95, after few seconds: freeze. I from 1.35V to 1.385 (1.375 was default i think) for few minutes and no crash, Cputin uped to 62C. (think that package temp that was 48C is not the real cput temp)and I stopped because I went to work. When I go home I'll change the thermal paste and try to put a small cooler on the vrm, and a 12 cm fan to pull out the hot air, having a top down cooler keeps the hotnes inside even if the cover is off. I don't understand well, I set up from Asrock Oc tunner the cpu to 1.385V, ran prime95, wathed open hardware and cpuid: when all cores 100%: max 1.328V max constantly, even cpu id reported a max 1.36V witch i never saw even in torture test. what is the reality? Thank you!

 

[kyzarvs]

As an 8350 owner with a 1080ti (used to run Strix 970) - I'm guessing temps. They are really easy to overheat and the throttling is quite severe. I only noticed it on Forza Horizon 4, where it would throttle from 100+ to 15fps. Not many other games (even VR) seemed to load the CPU as much to the point of overheat.

Run something that records max temps like openhardware monitor in the background - if you are hitting high 50's then its a cooling issue. On mine the heatsink was pretty dusty, a good clean and a slightly more agressive map on my case fans and I've not had a problem since. Also check that Cool n' Quiet is operating properly (openhardware monitor is good for that too) - I had an issue where the cores weren't throttling back properly when unloaded which generated heat for no reason.

hi! yau have a 1080 ti on this cpu, i think it's bottleneching your gpu, I have a tought that is's bottlenecking even my 1060 6gb gpu. since I have 25% lower passmark results even than 1060 3gb model, I have 7500 points and, someone on youtube reached 10000+ points with an later generation intel cpu. thank you for you tip. I ran prime95, after few seconds: freeze. I from 1.35V to 1.385 (1.375 was default i think) for few minutes and no crash, Cputin uped to 62C. (think that package temp that was 48C is not the real cput temp)and I stopped because I went to work. When I go home I'll change the thermal paste and try to put a small cooler on the vrm, and a 12 cm fan to pull out the hot air, having a top down cooler keeps the hotnes inside even if the cover is off. I don't understand well, I set up from Asrock Oc tunner the cpu to 1.385V, ran prime95, wathed open hardware and cpuid: when all cores 100%: max 1.328V max constantly, even cpu id reported a max 1.36V witch i never saw even in torture test. what is the reality? Thank you!

Yep, I'm sure it is, throttling a bit - but do I care more about ultimate max fps or if I can play everything I want to at the settings I want to? I wouldn't have chosen to put the 8350 and 1080ti together, but I'm not building a new rig for a while and the 1080ti was free 😉 Plays great @ 1440p and VR, so more than happy for now.

That build started with a Strix 660ti and then a Strix 970 - not a bad combo at all.

 

[Mircea Benga]

As an 8350 owner with a 1080ti (used to run Strix 970) - I'm guessing temps. They are really easy to overheat and the throttling is quite severe. I only noticed it on Forza Horizon 4, where it would throttle from 100+ to 15fps. Not many other games (even VR) seemed to load the CPU as much to the point of overheat.

Run something that records max temps like openhardware monitor in the background - if you are hitting high 50's then its a cooling issue. On mine the heatsink was pretty dusty, a good clean and a slightly more agressive map on my case fans and I've not had a problem since. Also check that Cool n' Quiet is operating properly (openhardware monitor is good for that too) - I had an issue where the cores weren't throttling back properly when unloaded which generated heat for no reason.

hi! yau have a 1080 ti on this cpu, i think it's bottleneching your gpu, I have a tought that is's bottlenecking even my 1060 6gb gpu. since I have 25% lower passmark results even than 1060 3gb model, I have 7500 points and, someone on youtube reached 10000+ points with an later generation intel cpu. thank you for you tip. I ran prime95, after few seconds: freeze. I from 1.35V to 1.385 (1.375 was default i think) for few minutes and no crash, Cputin uped to 62C. (think that package temp that was 48C is not the real cput temp)and I stopped because I went to work. When I go home I'll change the thermal paste and try to put a small cooler on the vrm, and a 12 cm fan to pull out the hot air, having a top down cooler keeps the hotnes inside even if the cover is off. I don't understand well, I set up from Asrock Oc tunner the cpu to 1.385V, ran prime95, wathed open hardware and cpuid: when all cores 100%: max 1.328V max constantly, even cpu id reported a max 1.36V witch i never saw even in torture test. what is the reality? Thank you!

Yep, I'm sure it is, throttling a bit - but do I care more about ultimate max fps or if I can play everything I want to at the settings I want to? I wouldn't have chosen to put the 8350 and 1080ti together, but I'm not building a new rig for a while and the 1080ti was free 😉 Plays great @ 1440p and VR, so more than happy for now.

That build started with a Strix 660ti and then a Strix 970 - not a bad combo at all.

happy for you, beautiful gift Stilll don't know what cpu voltage should I do, and what it the cpu voltage should be (don't want to cook it also Have a 4+1 phase MB, perhaps the voltage increase will make vrm verry hot...what would you reccomend?

 

[Mircea Benga]

did everything, low temps, still crashing, loosing savegames lost hours of play and have to save savegame folder every hour 🙁