FX-8350 + overclock or FX-9590

[Noenoe]

Hey,

So I'm looking for a processor.
Now I've seen the 9590, but it needs alot of watts (220), and the 8350 only needs 120. I also saw that motherboards have a limit on wattage output, but I don't really want to pay $200 for a motherboard. But I do want to overclock my processor (probably going to be the 8350, since it's alot cheaper and alot less wattage) so what should i get, and is there a motherboard that I should get to be able to overclock it? (AM3+ socket, 120 watt, preferably under $150)

Thanks in advance

 

[i7Baby]

Get the 8350

Mobo - $180 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131877

 

[MeteorsRaining]

Firstly, cut the FX 9 off your list. It not only needs loads of wattage (which in turn demands atleast 1kW PSU, as per AMD's website) and pricy boards, but it also runs very hot demanding an AIO and is unstable as well. Putting it simple, it's an OCed FX 8 with LOTS of cons.

Now, per your questions, you can max out FX 8's OC with a sub $100 MoBo like Gigabyte's 970A-UD3P or MSI's 970 GAMING. Or go for 990FXA-UD3 or 990FX EVO. All are well under $150. And with a $30 cooler like 212 EVO you can easily get to 4.5Ghz on most chips.

NOTE: Intel's i5 will edge out both FX 8 and 9 in gaming even on stock speeds.

 

[photonboy]

Don't get an AMD CPU.

First of all, I recommend you lookup your own benchmarks and reviews like THIS one:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-14.html

There's a big advantage to Intel in many games and even wins most video/photo applications. In some games a modern Intel i5 wins by 50%. Yep. Put another way in SKYRIM it might mean 90FPS instead of 60FPS. Yes, 60FPS is playable but this is just an example.

In a few modern titles the FX-8350 does about the same if its well threaded but it's hard to recommend an FX unless it's a budget issue and you saved a lot compared to an i5.

If you have the budget get something like:

a) i5-4690K, and
b) Asus Z97-A

If that's a bit too high (roughly $350) then get something a little cheaper like:

a) i5-4590 ($188), and
b) Asrock H97M Pro4 ($80)

So that's about $270 and beats the AMD system and often does as well or almost as well as the more expensive i5-4690K setup.

 

[Noenoe]

Get the 8350

Mobo - $180 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131877

Thats a bit too expensive for my budget, sorry.

 

[i7Baby]

OK - I thought you said under $200

Try $120 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157479

 

[Lutfij]

Noenoe,
Would you be open to a suggestion ...?

post your budget and requirements as per this thread and I'm sure there will be a better deal for you somewhere

ofc assuming you haven't bought anything yet and probably maybe biased towards a particular mobo?

 

[Noenoe]

Noenoe,
Would you be open to a suggestion ...?

post your budget and requirements as per this thread and I'm sure there will be a better deal for you somewhere

ofc assuming you haven't bought anything yet and probably maybe biased towards a particular mobo?

Hey, sorry for my very late response.

My budget is around $1200.
I want to play the newest games on high/ultra settings, but also be able to have very fast web browsing, skype, FL Studio, etc. So i probably need 16GB of RAM. As a motherboard, I'm thinking of the MSI Z97 GAMING 3. (http://game.msi.com/product/motherboard/z97-gaming/models) It has a 1150 CPU socket, 4x DDR3 and 2 PCI-e x16 slots. I am aiming for an Intel & NVidia pc (Thinking of a i7 4790k (http://ark.intel.com/nl/products/80807/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_40-GHz)+ Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 GAMING (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5209#ov), but this goes a little above my budget). For a case, I'm thinking of the "Be quiet silent base 800" since it's, well, quiet, and looks awesome. (http://www.bequiet.com/en/case/546v)

I'm looking forward to your input.

(and no, I haven't bought anything yet)

 

[i7Baby]

Try -

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($289.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($125.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($68.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($61.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($339.99 @ B&H)
Case: Corsair 450D ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($19.96 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1172.74

 

[Noenoe]

[quoa lot. g=14887054,0,884104]Try -

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($289.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($125.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($68.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($61.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($339.99 @ B&H)
Case: Corsair 450D ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($19.96 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1172.74[/quotemsg]

Thx a lot. Will definitely take this in consideration

 

[DubbleClick]

Well, get the I7 4790k, not the non-k variant. Getting a z97 board would be extremely pointless otherwise. Also, could as well save $40 by going with the xeon e3-1231v3 instead of the I7 4790.
As for the motherboard, while it's usually a great choice, the Asrock Fatal1ty z97 is currently like $45 off, coming out at just $95. Better board than the extreme 4 and currently for an amazing price.

So yeah, either: xeon e3-1231v3 and b85m-d3h/h97-pro4 for around $300 or I7 4790k and z97 fatal1ty killer for roughly $400.

 

[i7Baby]

4790k needs a custom cooler if you want to overclock it. Also takes your build over $1300. That's why I went with i7 4790. Xeon is the same as an i7 4790 but without integrated graphics.

 

[DubbleClick]

And $40 cheaper as well as getting a z97 board would be majorly pointless.
The I7 4790k is $10 extra to the I7 4790 and runs fine on the stock cooler without overclocking. In the worst case disable turbo until you got an aftermarket cooler and it's still a little faster than the I7 4790. Additionally, a noctua nh-d15 is $80 and not $130. And it performs same or better while being quieter than any $110 aio water cooler.

 

[i7Baby]

Z97 mobo allows you to go SLI down the track.

 

[DubbleClick]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($298.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z97 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $393.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-25 06:24 EST-0500

My choice.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($289.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($125.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $415.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-25 06:28 EST-0500

Your choice.

I don't see a single reason against my suggestion.

 

[i7Baby]

See http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/mainstream-gaming-z97-motherboard,3824.html - best mobo ASRock Z97 Extreme 4.

 

[DubbleClick]

See http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/mainstream-gaming-z97-motherboard,3824.html - best mobo ASRock Z97 Extreme 4.

And 4 more vrm phases and some gold contacts in one pci and dimm slots justify $30 price difference?

 

[MeteorsRaining]

DoubleClick, the Z97 Fatal1ty Killer you linked is not SLI capable.

 

[DubbleClick]

Uhh? Oh, I actually wanted to link the Z97X Fatal1ty Killer,

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-fatal1tyz97xkiller

which has been on a $45 rabate just a little ago. That definitely makes sense then, sorry for mistaking those two.

 

[Lutfij]

Noeone,
I apologize for not getting back to you sooner.

Pardon me for looking off to be on a rude start but you didn't include all the info that I'd need to answer your question. Could you please edit the following to suite your criteria

In order to make things easy, copy and paste the following template into your post and edit the italicized examples to suit your needs:

Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: this week (the closer the better)

Budget Range: (e.g.: 300-400) Before / After Rebates; Before / After Shipping

System Usage from Most to Least Important: (e.g.: Folding@Home, gaming, surfing the internet, watching movies)

Are you buying a monitor: Yes / No

Parts to Upgrade: (e.g.: CPU, mobo, RAM) **Include Power Supply Make & Model If Re-using**

Do you need to buy OS: Yes / No
Please note that if you're using an OEM license of Windows, you will need a new one when buying a new motherboard.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: (e.g.: newegg.com, ncix.com -- to show us selection & pricing)

Location: City, State/Region, Country - we need to know where these parts are being assembled and whether there are good store-only deals available

Parts Preferences: by brand or type (e.g.: I would like to upgrade to Intel CPU)

Overclocking: Yes / No / Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Yes / No / Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: (e.g.: 1024x768, 1280x1024, 1440x900, 1600x1200, 1680x1050, 1920x1080, 1920x1200 or if you're upgrading please state what you'd want to get)

Additional Comments: (e.g.: Need to have a window and lots of bling, I would like a quiet PC. Please also list specific software or games you're using)

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: (e.g. I'm having trouble running game X or my PSU broke)

Include a list of any parts you have already selected with descriptively labeled links for parts. Please do not post only links.

 

[Noenoe]

Noeone,
I apologize for not getting back to you sooner.

Pardon me for looking off to be on a rude start but you didn't include all the info that I'd need to answer your question. Could you please edit the following to suite your criteria

In order to make things easy, copy and paste the following template into your post and edit the italicized examples to suit your needs:

Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: this week (the closer the better)

Budget Range: (e.g.: 300-400) Before / After Rebates; Before / After Shipping

System Usage from Most to Least Important: (e.g.: Folding@Home, gaming, surfing the internet, watching movies)

Are you buying a monitor: Yes / No

Parts to Upgrade: (e.g.: CPU, mobo, RAM) **Include Power Supply Make & Model If Re-using**

Do you need to buy OS: Yes / No
Please note that if you're using an OEM license of Windows, you will need a new one when buying a new motherboard.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: (e.g.: newegg.com, ncix.com -- to show us selection & pricing)

Location: City, State/Region, Country - we need to know where these parts are being assembled and whether there are good store-only deals available

Parts Preferences: by brand or type (e.g.: I would like to upgrade to Intel CPU)

Overclocking: Yes / No / Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Yes / No / Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: (e.g.: 1024x768, 1280x1024, 1440x900, 1600x1200, 1680x1050, 1920x1080, 1920x1200 or if you're upgrading please state what you'd want to get)

Additional Comments: (e.g.: Need to have a window and lots of bling, I would like a quiet PC. Please also list specific software or games you're using)

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: (e.g. I'm having trouble running game X or my PSU broke)

Include a list of any parts you have already selected with descriptively labeled links for parts. Please do not post only links.

Purchase date: not in the near future
Budget: +/- $1200
System usage: Gaming - web browsing - FL studio (music)
Monitor is not included
Only new parts - nothing is re-used.
OS is not included
Preffered website: doesn't matter
Location: Netherlands
Preferences: Intel + Nvidia
Overclocking: Maybe
SLI: probably in the future
Monitor: probably just 1080p
Additional: Doesn't need to be super bling, but I would like it to look good (Looking at Phanteks enthoo pro). Would like it to be quiet.
Why am I upgrading?: I'm using an 8 years old piece of sh*t (sorry for my language) and it can't handle a single thing/program.

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Noenoe/saved/ZLDhP6
this is what I have so far, I want a really fast CPU, so don't really want to go for i5 or something.

 

[DubbleClick]

I'd advise you to pay a little more on the gpu and get a 970 with a non reference pcb. From what I've been reading from various reviews, the non reference designs are a lot quieter and have on average less chance of coil whine. Also, while the z97x-sli is a great board (I'm actually using it myself) I'd say it's currently not worth the price point. It used to be $100 when the asrock z97 extreme 4 was $140, but as they're now priced equally might as well go with the extreme 4. Not a big deal though. The psu is good if you plan to SLI, otherwise 500w will do more than fine. For a quiet pc, I'd recommend spending a little more on the cpu cooler. What I'd end up recommending is:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($317.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($77.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($125.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($80.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($62.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Toshiba Product SeriesT01ACA 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($72.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($348.99 @ Directron)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($77.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.75 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1271.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-05 07:01 EST-0500

Although you might even get the gigabyte gtx 970 g1 gaming.

 

[Lutfij]

Here is one scenario where you have the bare essentials and you can dip your toes into the overclocking scene;
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.75 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97MX-Gaming 5 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($124.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($134.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Crucial M550 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Green 4TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($329.98 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: XFX XTR 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($76.18 @ Newegg)
Total: $1188.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-05 09:07 EST-0500

and here's a scenario where you can trick out the exterior;
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.75 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97MX-Gaming 5 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($124.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($134.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Crucial M550 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Green 4TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($329.98 @ NCIX US)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($137.53 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX XTR 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($76.18 @ Newegg)
Total: $1282.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-05 09:08 EST-0500
While retaining the overall innards. I might have missed one little detail though - why would you need a ODD and if not then why is it included in some of the parts suggestions?

Though Noenoe, are you sure you'd be going with US prices instead of local Deutschland based sites? I have a couple of friends in UK, Nederlands and in Germany to know their prices are relatively the same save for some VAT prices but they are different from what you will see in USA thus my concern over US linked parts and sites.

 

[Noenoe]

I'd advise you to pay a little more on the gpu and get a 970 with a non reference pcb. From what I've been reading from various reviews, the non reference designs are a lot quieter and have on average less chance of coil whine. Also, while the z97x-sli is a great board (I'm actually using it myself) I'd say it's currently not worth the price point. It used to be $100 when the asrock z97 extreme 4 was $140, but as they're now priced equally might as well go with the extreme 4. Not a big deal though. The psu is good if you plan to SLI, otherwise 500w will do more than fine. For a quiet pc, I'd recommend spending a little more on the cpu cooler. What I'd end up recommending is:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($317.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($77.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($125.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($80.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($62.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Toshiba Product SeriesT01ACA 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($72.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($348.99 @ Directron)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($77.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.75 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1271.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-05 07:01 EST-0500

Although you might even get the gigabyte gtx 970 g1 gaming.

yeah, I already selected the G1 Gaming version.
From what I´ve heard and seen, it´s the best non reference design out there.