Fx 8350 vs intel 7500

[Xbonepcnovice]

Building first computer on pc specialist, which specs are better
Bugdet £800
Intel 7500 3.4
ASUS® H110M-R mobo
16gb ddr4 ram
Gtx 1060 3gb
Stock cpu cooler
1tb hdd

Fx 8350
Asus 970 pro gaming aura
16gb ddr3
Gtx 1060 3gb
TITAN DRAGONFLY COOLER
1tb hdd

Both have 550w corsair psu
The main thing thats bugging me is the mobo for intel, would it handle the cpu and gpu?

 

[LucoTF]

The i5 is better for gaming. Get the 6gb 1060 if you can, or even an rx 480 or 580

Yes that intel mobo is cheap but it does the job

 

[DRagor]

^^ Just make sure it has BIOS updated for KabyLake CPU.

 

[sizzling]

Don't buy an FX setup, that CPU range is basically obsolete and very underpowered for modern games. Agree you need to be careful, that H110 motherboard won't work if it has an older BIOS and you won't be able to update it without a Skylake cpu.

 

[CRO5513Y]

Definitely the top one, but DRagor is correct and LucoTF's idea is spot on. The i5-7500 is the stronger CPU for Gaming and will offer a good upgrade path should you ever need it. But i suggest you change to a B250 Motherboard unless you can confirm from the seller/manufacturer that the H110 board has the latest BIOS to support 7th Gen CPUs.

As for the GPU, a GTX 1060 6GB or RX 480/580 would be a much better pairing i strongly suggest you look into this. Hope this helps

 

[Xbonepcnovice]

Cant afford the 6gb or the rx 480 unless I lose 8gb of ram. Do I need 16gb?, what about the rx 470? Hoping to play bf 1 at decent quality. Also will the mobo handle 6gb gtx?

 

[CRO5513Y]

Cant afford the 6gb or the rx 480 unless I lose 8gb of ram. Do I need 16gb?, what about the rx 470? Hoping to play bf 1 at decent quality. Also will the mobo handle 6gb gtx?

Yeah your Motherboard will handle any of the Graphics cards above and any modern GPU for that matter. As far as i know the RX 470 > GTX 1060 3GB in Battlefield 1 but there are others the 1060 3GB wins. Main reason to avoid the 1060 3GB is that fact that it's 3GB. Imo dropping to 8GB RAM in favour of a RX 580/GTX 1060 6GB is well worth it and will give High/Ultra capabilities in most games at 1080p 60 FPS. You can always add more RAM later when you feel the want/need.

 

[Xbonepcnovice]

Im buying it from pc specialist who say they test it before its shipped. Wont them testing it confirm if the bios is up to date?

 

[helpstar]

if the H110 mobo BIOS is updated, it will run with everything fine. If not, it will not run at all.
If they built the system and test it themselves, then it will be fine.

8GB will be fine for now, better getting the 6gb model or rx480/580

 

[LucoTF]

Im buying it from pc specialist who say they test it before its shipped. Wont them testing it confirm if the bios is up to date?

Correct, this is why I didn't mention BIOS update as you're buying prebuilt. They will take care of that for you

I would take a 3gb 1060 over an rx 470 any day. Don't worry if you can't aford the 6gb, the 3gb is still very good

Although dropping to 8gb ram to get a 1060 6gb sounds tempting... would that be 1x8gb or 2x4gb?

 

[Xbonepcnovice]

Will go for the intel, have changed specs to 8gb ram and 6gb gtx cos ram is easy enough to buy and fit. Thank you all for your help

 

[spdragoo]

The RX 470 (or the new 570) would be a decent alternative as well, if you can't afford an RX 480 or the 6GB 1060.

Regarding the builds, though, have you considered a Ryzen build? They compare quite well with new Intel systems in terms of price & performance. Also, it might not be a bad idea to consider getting an SSD as your primary drive (pretty much a standard thing anymore).

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£178.14 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus STRIX H270F GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£115.64 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£125.31 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: MyDigitalSSD BPX 128GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£89.95 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.98 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Windforce OC Video Card (£183.98 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£65.13 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £800.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-02 12:58 BST+0100

Pretty much this is right on your price point...although you didn't specify if you had a case already or not (which would add at least another £30-50 to your price). If you absolutely have to come in under £800 and need a case, then you would need to drop the SSD for a 2nd HDD.

The alternative, however, would be a Ryzen 5 build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£149.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI B350 TOMAHAWK ARCTIC ATX AM4 Motherboard (£108.37 @ More Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£125.31 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: MyDigitalSSD BPX 128GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£89.95 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.98 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Windforce OC Video Card (£183.98 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£65.13 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £764.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-02 13:05 BST+0100

It comes in slightly cheaper, which means you have enough left over to get a case without sacrificing the SSD. Or, if you already have a case (or can afford to increase the budget to cover the case), you could replace the 3GB GTX 1060 with an 8GB RX 580 (puts it at ~£807).

EDIT: also note, if you go for the Intel build, that board is designed for Kaby Lake, so you won't need to flash the BIOS using a Skylake chip.

 

[LucoTF]

Ryzen on that site is hella expensive, I checked

 

[Xbonepcnovice]

LucoTF -its 2 4gb, there aren't any single 8gb to choose, and I really want it pre built

spdragoo-did look at fx range but I heard older intel cpus could out perform them

 

[LucoTF]

LucoTF -its 2 4gb, there aren't any single 8gb to choose, and I really want it pre built

spdragoo-did look at fx range but I heard older intel cpus could out perform them

2x4 is fine, it's slightly more expensive when it's time to upgrade but on the other hand you can guarantee a matched kit so it's not all bad

 

[Xbonepcnovice]

Case
PCS ENIGMA 6003B BLACK CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-7500 (3.4GHz) 6MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® H110M-R: Micro-ATX, DDR4, LG1151, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs
Memory (RAM)
8GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2133MHz (2 x 4GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1060 - DVI, HDMI, 3 x DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1st Hard Disk
1TB SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 32MB CACHE
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY

this is what I'm hoping to buy prebuilt, to play bf1 fallout 4 and new releases.

 

[Xbonepcnovice]

£803 if anyone wondering

 

[CRO5513Y]

Case
PCS ENIGMA 6003B BLACK CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-7500 (3.4GHz) 6MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® H110M-R: Micro-ATX, DDR4, LG1151, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs
Memory (RAM)
8GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2133MHz (2 x 4GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1060 - DVI, HDMI, 3 x DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1st Hard Disk
1TB SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 32MB CACHE
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY

this is what I'm hoping to buy prebuilt, to play bf1 fallout 4 and new releases.

I'd change that Power Supply, it's low quality and unreliable. Check if they have a SeaSonic S12 or Corsair CXM series Power Supply. They are excellent for a budget buiild.

 

[LucoTF]

They dont (I just checked lol), it's VS or CS and the CS are way more expensive.

Get it with the VS and swap it out for something better in the short to mid term

 

[DRagor]

Don't go for Corsair VS, check if you can get Corsair CXM instead.

 

[spdragoo]

Don't go for Corsair VS, check if you can get Corsair CXM instead.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

Corsair CX & CXM PSUs are Tier 4, but their CS/RM line is Tier 3 (with their 850W RM a Tier 2). The RM 550W was a lot more expensive on PCPartPicker than the CS 550W model.

 

[Xbonepcnovice]

I could probably stretch to a corsair 650cs, cant go no more. over the limit as it is. any better?

 

[CRO5513Y]

Don't go for Corsair VS, check if you can get Corsair CXM instead.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

Corsair CX & CXM PSUs are Tier 4, but their CS/RM line is Tier 3 (with their 850W RM a Tier 2). The RM 550W was a lot more expensive on PCPartPicker than the CS 550W model.

The new CXM lineup is good quality, look around any budget builds within the last 2 or so months and you will see a load of them recommended by a whole variety of experts on here.

 

[LucoTF]

Whats the price difference between cs and vs?

 

[Xbonepcnovice]

I want it pre built and ready to go, could probably upgrade in the future but not straight away. if anyone can recommend another prebuilt website with more varied parts that would be helpful. haven't built one before