But.. can it run Crysis? Kidding, what I really want to know is: given that there's is such a HUGE performance difference between the 4090 and the 4080, can the average consumer OC this card to at least 3Ghz and play with it that way to try and justify $1200? I mean guys.. let's pitch this flop against a currently $400 RX6800 shall we? The "last" gen 6800 is able to 60fps 4K games average while the 4080 averages 90fps. Can anyone tell which is which side by side blind test at most games? We all know the answer is no. Sure.. with RT on the 4080 stomps over the 6800 , but, is there really any game besides Minecraft where RT isn't a reflections everywhere gimmick? Have you played like Fortnite with RT on? It actually looks worse with halved FPS. If I turn RT on a game that actually make good use of it like Cyberpunk I just set it to 1080p on my 4K screen, problem solved, that's basically what DLSS do anyway. Call your GF and ask her "hey babe is it set to 4K or 1080p right now? She can't tell, It doesn't matter, it never did. RTX 4080 runs Psycho 4K with DLSS2 Quality enabled at 50fps, RX 6800 Psycho 1080p with FSR at 50fps.. can you tell both side by side? Seriously, at 2m distance, 50 inch monitor, give it s try. My point is, it's a flop for $1200, period. It's the premium they charge first buyers, like the $2000 3090Ti msrp. Right now $200 plays anything 1080p, $400 plays anything 4K, RT, 120fps, you name it, just play with the settings and be happy. Now those extra $800.. hum.. Hifiman Arya, Sony Alpha 7II, S22 Ultra, a flight to the pyramids, a investment of some sort, a gift to your GF? C'mon that's not money to waste on a poor valued product that won't give you anything worth in return. The RTX 4090 actually ups the bar, but that's the card that will be priced $1200 soon enough, the RTX4080 meanwhile is nowhere worth more than $700.