Question Games constantly crashing to desktop with no errors, I can't figure it out!

[noeyebob]

A few years back I built myself a new PC. It has never worked reliably, and I have never been able to get full enjoyment out of it due to the constant worry that my games will crash. Pretty much any game I play will crash within a minute, to an hour, to 2 hours, just at seemingly random times. More often than not, these are 'silent' crashes, straight to the desktop, with no error message or warning. Recently (the past month ish?), it has just gotten worse and worse. Games that used to be fine to play (e.g. TF2, Dead by Daylight) are now doing the same thing. I can't live with it any more, it makes me feel like I want to rip my hair out!

I've spent the time since building it trying to troubleshoot and get it to a working state and it just feels like i'm going backwards. It doesn't seem to be related to temps, they all seem stable from my watching of them. It's annoying as I upgraded massively from my old PC to be able to play all these games in high quality, high framerate, new games, etc. and it just doesn't work. I can launch and load games, and play them for X amount of time, at high settings, smooth gameplay, seemingly no issues at all, but then bam, I'm hit with a crash and it ruins my day lol.

Specs are as follows:
Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti (GPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 7600x 6-core (CPU)
MAG B650 Tomahawk Wifi (Mobo)
CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MHz CL40 CMH32GX5M2B6000C40 (RAM)
Sabrent SB Rocket NVME-4-2TB (SSD)
Samsung HD753LJ (HD)
CORSAIR RMe Series RM750e Fully Modular 80PLUS Gold ATX Power Supply - CP-9020262-UK (PSU)

I have tried many driver updates and changes, reinstalling windows 11 fresh, checked all my hardware connections, disabled XMP (pc won't even start with XMP enabled), memory test, sfc scannow, etc. I also have the occasional bluescreen, unsure if this is related to the software crashing issues.

All of my components were bought brand new in June 2023. I spent a good amount of money on it and haven't been able to enjoy it at all because of these issues. Any help would be absolutely appreciated.

Thank you all so much.

 

[Aeacus]

reinstalling windows 11 fresh

This would rule out software issue(s), pointing towards hardware issues.

CORSAIR RMe Series RM750e

Mediocre quality PSU. Tier B+.
Could be that your PSU damaged your GPU over time and now you get game crashes.
Since symptoms show GPU driver (or GPU itself) crashing, hence the sudden crash back to desktop.

For proper PSU for gaming rig, Tier A is proper. Like: Seasonic Focus/Vertex/PRIME, Corsair RMx/RMi/HXi/AXi, Super Flower Leadex Gold/Platinum/Titanium.
PSU tier list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...JWkc/edit?pli=1&gid=1973454078#gid=1973454078

Tier A- will do too, while Tier A+ is preferred.
(My 3x PCs are solely powered by Tier A PSUs. Namely, i have Seasonic PRIME 650 Titanium (Tier A+), Seasonic PRIME Ultra 650 Titanium (Tier A+) and Seasonic Focus PX-550 (Tier A). Full specs with pics in my sig.)

But before that;

Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti (GPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 7500x 6-core (CPU)

There is no 7500X CPU. Instead, there is 7600X.

Take out your GPU from the system, hook monitor to MoBo and use iGPU inside the CPU. You can browse the web and do some light gaming with this.
When using iGPU, try your level best to get games to crash and also getting BSoD. If no luck what-so-ever and system runs butter smooth, issue is with your old RTX 3070 Ti.

In this case, try to get your hands on 2nd, known to work GPU, to test out games on higher reso/quality, than iGPU can deliver.

But if you still have issues even with iGPU, then it comes down to: CPU, MoBo, RAM. Maybe PSU too, but taking out GPU will lessen the load on PSU considerably. Still, i'd look for better quality PSU regardless. Since IF issue is with your GPU, it could very well be due to your mediocre quality RMe. And i, personally, would not trust new GPU with RMe, since RMe may cause the same issue with new GPU as well.

 

[noeyebob]

Right, thank you very much for your reply firstly.

I won't be able to work on this today or tomorrow but will have a play around at the weekend. First step is to remove my GPU and try and run some bits off of integrated graphics and see if the same crashes happen, yes? It will be a struggle to play a game that would give the same amount of strain whilst still running on iGPU? Perhaps TF2?

Interesting about my PSU too, at the time I had thought that it was a tier A PSU, but I'm more than willing to replace if it fixes these issues. Could you maybe recommend a PSU that would work with my system?

And yep, I meant 7600X - will edit that on my OP.

Again many thanks, I'll drop another post when I get round to that first step of troubleshooting.

 

[Aeacus]

First step is to remove my GPU and try and run some bits off of integrated graphics and see if the same crashes happen, yes?

Yes.

It will be a struggle to play a game that would give the same amount of strain whilst still running on iGPU? Perhaps TF2?

Game wise - i can't tell. But lower the reso to e.g 720p (maybe even 1080p) and with low/minimum graphical settings should suffice.

at the time I had thought that it was a tier A PSU

Corsair RMx and RMi are. RMe and RM are not.

Could you maybe recommend a PSU that would work with my system?

750W PSU will do. 850W unit doesn't hurt either.

Also, i linked you PSU tier list, from where you can pick any Tier A PSU you like. But if you like to narrow it down, you can't go wrong with what i already suggested:

Like: Seasonic Focus/Vertex/PRIME, Corsair RMx/RMi/HXi/AXi, Super Flower Leadex Gold/Platinum/Titanium.

My personal preference (and what i'm also using) is Seasonic. I have two PRIME units and one Focus unit. Super Flower would be my 2nd choice, if no Seasonic is available. Listed Corsair models are also good and Corsair usually has better availability than Seasonic and especially Super Flower.

but I'm more than willing to replace if it fixes these issues

IF the issue is with PSU damaging GPU over time, then new PSU will not magically fix the damage done. But better PSU won't damage the hardware any further.