[SOLVED] Gaming and Video Editing Rig

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Hi all, going to try and keep this short and sweet. Running into some money (hopefully if everything works out and want to upgrade my PC to the best I can). Before i give you my current specs and such. This PC will primarily be used for gaming at the moment but will eventually become a gaming and video editing rig (gf's future you tube channel we are planning to start). I don't really want a two PC set-up which I'm sure is recommended. I only run on 1080p right now but want to upgrade so we can keep that in mind. I like high FPS rates since i love me some 144hz monitors.

Current Build:
CPU: i5-7600K https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117728
Ram: 16gb Vengence https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820236190
Motherboard MSI:Gaming M6 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIACVB7NB5579&Description=Gaming%20M6&cm_re=Gaming_M6-_-9SIACVB7NB5579-_-Product
GPU: GTX 1070 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127947
PSU: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153311
SSD: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147373
HDD:https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=1Z4-0002-002V0
Case:

Budget for new PC is going to be set around 2k. I will be keeping the SSD, HDD, Case, and PS (if applicable excluding case).

I was thinking of going with a i7 9900K for the processor, but maybe it will be better with a thread ripper? should i be waiting for the new AMD cards or will Intel be better for gaming (which from some research seems to be the consensus). Please include overclocking details if maybe a Ryzen or thread ripper overclocked would be a better choice. Cooling I would like to use this kit (https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-kit-rgb-360). A question I had for this cooling system is can I add a GPU to the loop? Could i have my GPU standing upwards when using watercooling, and can (stupid question im sure) I use hard tubing as well as the soft tubing it would come with.
 

QwerkyPengwen

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For heavy gaming, threadripper may not be suitable compared to 2nd gen Ryzen.
If gaming is first priority with video editing being second, the 2nd gen Ryzen or the 9900k.

If video editing is first priority with gaming as a second one, then threadripper.

Will need a new motherboard either way, and you could then upgrade the GPU as well if that's within your budget.

If you like your 144hz monitors, then a 1080ti at 1440p is for you.
Otherwise, spend even more money on a 2080. Your choice.

G-Sync is best. Can get a quality 1440p 144hz G-Sync monitor for about $400.

when you have an idea of budget come back and let us know so we can better provide you with suggestions and recommendations for allocating it to the appropriate parts.
 
You need to provide a budget. Location? Will you need a new monitor and peripherals? If you want to save money, you can keep the 1070, or the PSU, Case and storage drives you currently have, which leads to the question, what is your PSU and what are your drives (only HDD or SSD and HDD)?
 
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Thank you for replying and the help!

The budget i would set around 2K. I would basically be buying an entirely new pc and passing these parts along to a friend. So a new GPU is also in order as well. I wanted to try and keep the topic around the cpu for the most part as i will be getting at the very least a 2070.

Gaming will be the primary use. With the price for the i9-9900K reaching 900+ i think i will rule that one out for now haha. I updated OP to show what i will be keeping and a couple of other specs as well that might factor into the decision.
 
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Hi thanks for replying. I am basically building a new PC all i will be carrying over is the SSD and Hard Drive, and the PSU which are all the following:

PSU: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153311
SSD: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147373
HDD:https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=1Z4-0002-002V0

I will update OP to include this info as well. The Budget is going to be 2K.
 

QwerkyPengwen

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since you already will have storage and power supply, here's everything else.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor ($294.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($145.59 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($135.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($269.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB DUKE Video Card ($819.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C TG ATX Mid Tower Case ($75.85 @ Amazon)
Total: $1742.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-10 20:41 EST-0500

Please note that this doesn't include monitor, mouse, or keyboard since you never answered the question about if you needed any of that.
 
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Oh sorry about that. I am good on peripherals and the monitor is fine atm for what i need. 1080p 144hz. How much would the performance drop with a 2070?
 

QwerkyPengwen

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I don't really know what level of performance the 2070 is at.
Seeing as how it's priced at about the same as a 1080 I would think it's hopefully around that level of performance.

If you plan on upgrading your monitor action to 1440p then you'll want a beefier card for the higher resolutions if wanting to maintain higher quality graphics at higher frame rates.

But if you want a 2070, this is the one I would get.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DGYLrH/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2070-8gb-gaming-8g-video-card-gv-n2070gaming-8gc
 
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https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137364&Description=RTX%202070%20gaming&cm_re=RTX_2070_gaming-_-14-137-364-_-Product

So this is how my two builds would look:
Intel: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KWqQgw (might be better with i7-8700k
AMD: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/
 

QwerkyPengwen

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I don't see why you would go with the MSI card unless space is an issue inside the case. But if getting the case I provided in my build, you wouldn't need to worry about it.

The MSI card offers no better performance than the Gigabyte card and costs more.

And to be honest, unless you go and mount the GPU vertically, RGB around the fans like that with little light strips is pointless and you won't see them.

I opt for saving money where you can. But if it's a design aesthetic choice, then so be it. It's your money after all and you spend it how you see fit.

Also, unless you get the 9900k, all other 9th gen i7's are not hyperthreaded.
The 8700K of course is but it's a 6 core not an 8 core.
Just stick with Ryzen. It will outperform Intel in hyperthreaded tasks which is good for your video editing and it is more than enough for gaming as well.
If you want hyperthreading (and since you'll be video editing the answer to that would be a big YES) you will want a 9900K if going with Intel 9th gen.

And from what I can tell in that build you linked, you aren't caring about performance as much as you are looks.
But looks don't do jack all for you if your performance is sub par. But like I said, it's your money. spend it how you see fit.

But I'll try to accommodate your tastes as best I can with this.

I should also note that since you placed the 2070 in your list as non priced I then assume you already have one or have already purchased one even though you never told us so.

Also, just in case the only reason you threw that card into the list is because of how you found it on newegg, let me offer you a one up in terms of style.
I chose the AORUS with it's individually lit fans. Fully customizable RGB.
And to top it all off, I threw in a vertical mounting solution to help you show it off inside the baller Define R6 case.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($265.60 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML360R RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX AM4 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB AORUS Video Card ($599.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design - Define R6 Blackout TG ATX Mid Tower Case ($167.74 @ Newegg)
Other: Cable Mod Vertical PCIe Bracket ($59.90)
Total: $1723.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-10 22:48 EST-0500
 
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Aesthetics is a big thing for me as well. I dont have the 2070 i provided the link before hand so you can see. As of the MSI gaming GPU, it will be vertically mounted, and i will be getting the core p3 case again which comes with the vertical mounting. The max clock on the MSI was higher then the one you linked prior. As for the i7 then sure because if those i9's dont come down then Ryzen it definitely is then.

Core p3 is for the look (i love it) but also my PC is wall mounted and i love it. Is that gigabyte gpu still better than the MSI one i previously linked?

 

QwerkyPengwen

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when you say max clock is higher, I assume you mean to say it boosts higher because it's pre overclocked from MSI. But when manually overclocking it further past boost clocks, all cards for the most part are the same and reach the same max clocks.

The Gigabyte card would be a better choice too since it's just slightly shorter in length than the MSI card making it fit inside the P3 without having to remove drive cages.

It's also got a better cooling system on it which will keep the temps lower which results in higher clock speeds as well because GPU temps are directly linked with clock speeds, the higher the temps, the lower the card clocks itself to keep everything in check.

So you can go with the P3 if you like it that much but I would personally go with the Gigabyte card. and if vertically mounting it, it will look cooler because of the RGB fans.
Here's a video showing you what it looks like.
Kyle from BitWit shows it off nicely in his build he did with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMAEziClqRA
 
Intel -

(Black and White Theme, the RGB components will help you be more specific of the colour if you want to change it later)
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($419.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.69 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME Z390-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($172.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB GAMING AMP Video Card ($789.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - H500 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1772.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-11 03:09 EST-0500

Ryzen -

(Same colour scheme as above)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor ($294.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($145.59 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - X470 Taichi ATX AM4 Motherboard ($199.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB GAMING AMP Video Card ($789.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - H500 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1730.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-11 03:10 EST-0500


The Ryzen build has an NZXT AIO which is RGB to allow for better colour choices. The Intel build has the H100iv2 which only has white. You can swap out the H100iv2 for the NZXT if you go for the Intel build. These builds assume that you keep the storage devices and PSU as you mentioned.
 

QwerkyPengwen

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I feel it should be noted in the off chance you don't know what it is you're buying.

The above poster either whole heartedly believes that having a 9700K which has no hyperthreading, and only 16GB of RAM is optimal for video editing, or they didn't fully read your post and completely ignored that you want to do serious content creation with your system.

I would consider either of the two options the above poster gave you to be entirely geared towards gaming with only some light video editing as an after thought.
 


Original post mentions gaming and 144Hz as primary concerns. The next few messages after that OP mentions that Gaming is the primary concern of his new build. Either build is enough for video editing, perhaps if he is looking for high end content creating and 144Hz gaming with possibility of resolution upgrade in future, he would increase the budget. But for now, the builds are geared towards what he mentioned in his original posts.
 
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Okay so the budget obviously is really holding me back. if I can increase that budget which is likely, then it would be somewhere between the threadrippers and im assuming the x series of cpu's. Am i correct in that analysis? As for that point it would be between:
i7-7820X and the
AMD 1950x.

Intel im assuming better for gaming and amd better for workstation

Cooling becomes my issue now. Would an AIO 3 fan radiator be enough.

Builds like these:
Intel:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7820X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($480.22 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML360R RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI - X299 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX LGA2066 Motherboard ($269.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($154.74 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB GAMING AMP Video Card ($1408.99 @ B&H)
Case: Thermaltake - Core P3 Snow Edition ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ Newegg Business)
Total: $2923.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-13 21:51 EST-0500

AMD Version
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Threadripper 1920X 3.5 GHz 12-Core Processor ($415.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Thermaltake - Floe Riing RGB 360 TT Premium Edition 42.34 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($175.66 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI - X399 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX TR4 Motherboard ($305.78 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($154.74 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB GAMING AMP Video Card ($1408.99 @ B&H)
Case: Thermaltake - Core P3 Snow Edition ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ Newegg Business)
Total: $2911.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-13 21:50 EST-0500
 
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see my reply.
 


Drop the 7820x imo. You can do better with the i9. Referring back to your original post, if you keep the HDD, PSU and SSD but get a new Case, you can get these.

Assuming $3k budget:

Intel -
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i9-7940X 3.1 GHz 14-Core Processor ($1179.89 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.69 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.18 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - X299 RAIDER ATX LGA2066 Motherboard ($205.48 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($259.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB GAMING Triple Fan Video Card ($1379.99 @ B&H)
Case: NZXT - H500 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $3184.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-13 22:11 EST-0500


Ryzen -
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Threadripper 2950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor ($865.49 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.69 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.18 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - X399 Taichi ATX TR4 Motherboard ($323.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($259.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB GAMING Triple Fan Video Card ($1379.99 @ B&H)
Case: NZXT - H500 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2988.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-13 22:12 EST-0500

Both of these builds have a 2080Ti in them. If you can step down to a 2080:

Intel -

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i9-7960X 2.8 GHz 16-Core Processor ($1535.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.69 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.18 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - X299 Extreme4 ATX LGA2066 Motherboard ($183.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($259.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card ($749.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - H500 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2889.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-13 22:14 EST-0500

Ryzen -

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Threadripper 2990WX 3 GHz 32-Core Processor ($1719.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.69 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.18 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty X399 Professional Gaming ATX TR4 Motherboard ($294.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($259.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card ($749.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - H500 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $3184.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-13 22:16 EST-0500

This Ryzen build has 32 cores. It will be plenty for you.

All builds assume a black and white theme and you will keep your current SSD, HDD and PSU.
 

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