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Hi all -- looking to build a gaming PC for 4k gaming on an ultrawide monitor. Have not built a PC for many years. Would the following work? Any suggestions?

Intel Core i7-9700K Coffee Lake 8-Core 3.6 GHz (4.9 GHz Turbo) LGA 1151

GIGABYTE Z390 AORUS ULTRA LGA 1151 (300 Series) Intel Z390 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard

G.SKILL Trident Z RGB (For AMD) 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600)

MSI GeForce RTX 2080 TI GAMING X TRIO Video Card

NZXT H710 - ATX Mid Tower PC Gaming Case - Front I/O USB Type-C Port - Quick-Release Tempered Glass Side Panel

Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 ARGB 750W 80+ Gold 16.8 Million Colors 18 Addressable LEDs 5V Motherboard Sync/Analog Controlled SLI Full Modular Power Supply PS-TPD-0750F3FAGU-1

SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 1TB PCIe Gen3. X4, NVMe 1.3 64L V-NAND 3-bit MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

Cooler Master MasterLiquid Lite ML240L RGB AIO CPU Liquid Cooler, Sleeved FEP Tubing, Dual 120mm RGB Air Balance MF, RGB Software compatible, Dual Dissipation Technology

Any suggestions welcome! Thnank you
 

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Budget and where do you live?

For 4k gaming you don't need a high end cpu, and with Intel's new releases I wouldn't pay more for the 9000 series when the 10000's perform better and cost less.

You'll need the 2080ti for 4k but the 3000 series gpu's will be out in a few months. I can't recommend spending that much on a 2080ti right now, considering the rumors about the 3080ti.
 
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Budget and where do you live?

For 4k gaming you don't need a high end cpu, and with Intel's new releases I wouldn't pay more for the 9000 series when the 10000's perform better and cost less.

You'll need the 2080ti for 4k but the 3000 series gpu's will be out in a few months. I can't recommend spending that much on a 2080ti right now, considering the rumors about the 3080ti.
I'd be willing to spend in the $2500-2700 range. Live in New Jersey.

Thanks for the CPU advice...that makes sense.

Not sure I want to wait to get 3080ti, but perhaps I could get a 2070 super or something as an interim step?
 

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There's a Micro Center in North Jersey if that's not too far of a drive. They tend to have the best cpu pricing and a $20 discount with a compatible motherboard.

I'll post a build in a few, as many others will too.
 
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WildCard999

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These would be my choices for a $2,500 build. You could also go with something like the 2070S (I wouldn't go less) as a interim solution until Nvidia Ampere. Both builds aren't really RGB but those can be changed out if desired.

Intel:

PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: Intel Core i7-10700K 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($387.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG A40 83 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z490-E GAMING ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Founders Edition Video Card ($1199.99 @ Best Buy)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($144.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $2556.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-29 13:55 EDT-0400


AMD:

PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9 GHz 8-Core Processor ($328.98 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG A40 83 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Founders Edition Video Card ($1199.99 @ Best Buy)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($144.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $2343.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-29 13:57 EDT-0400
 

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So here's one example.
https://www.back2gaming.com/reviews/b2g-hardware/hw-components/cpu-mobo/intel-core-i7-10700k-8-core-processor-review/11/#split_content

Check out other reviews and you'll find similar results for 4k gaming. When the 3080ti hits the streets that could change things. The cpu disparity will likely become more evident, we shall see.

The 10700K is Intel's latest offering and somewhat close in pricing. The FPS at 4k is typically bottle necked by the gpu. You can see that the priciest CPU's aren't giving you much more than the 3700x does at 4k. There's a $100 price difference between the 3700x and 10700k, are a couple of frames really worth that cost?

The Intel's will need a really good cooler, the 3700x stock Wraith is fine but loud under load so I'd suggest a good aftermarket air cooler.


This builds also includes the operating system in the total cost.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($274.49 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB AORUS XTREME Video Card ($1199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($164.99 @ Best Buy)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($108.78 @ Other World Computing)
Total: $2438.08
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-29 14:12 EDT-0400
 
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WildCard999

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Thank you guys. Seems impossible to find a decent power supply in stock anywhere today. Any suggestions?
Besides PCPer or a local Microcenter, nothing else I'd trust (wouldn't recommend buying used PSU's). With all this COVID stuff going on PSU pricing has gone stupidly high and most of the higher quality units just aren't available. The Corsair I recommended is a bit pricey but is a higher end unit with a somewhat reasonable price (was about $110 before, now $145) as opposed to some of the units that were like $90 and are close to $200 now.
 
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Besides PCPer or a local Microcenter, nothing else I'd trust (wouldn't recommend buying used PSU's). With all this COVID stuff going on PSU pricing has gone stupidly high and most of the higher quality units just aren't available. The Corsair I recommended is a bit pricey but is a higher end unit with a somewhat reasonable price (was about $110 before, now $145) as opposed to some of the units that were like $90 and are close to $200 now.
Yeah thanks. I woul dbuy the Corsair you recommended in a second if I could find it. It is showing sold out at BB and New Egg.
 
looking to build a gaming PC for 4k gaming on an ultrawide monitor.
So is that 4k... or ultrawide? Do you have a monitor picked out? What is its resolution? 4k is typically considered 3840 x 2160 resolution, which isn't ultrawide, just a standard "widescreen" 16:9 ratio. Ultrawide monitors generally have somewhat lower resolutions than that, which should allow them to push somewhat higher frame rates.
 
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So is that 4k... or ultrawide? Do you have a monitor picked out? What is its resolution? 4k is typically considered 3840 x 2160 resolution, which isn't ultrawide, just a standard "widescreen" 16:9 ratio. Ultrawide monitors generally have somewhat lower resolutions than that, which should allow them to push somewhat higher frame rates.
Sorry, I should have been more precise. 3840x1600. Close to 4k but not quite.
 
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So here's one example.
https://www.back2gaming.com/reviews/b2g-hardware/hw-components/cpu-mobo/intel-core-i7-10700k-8-core-processor-review/11/#split_content

Check out other reviews and you'll find similar results for 4k gaming. When the 3080ti hits the streets that could change things. The cpu disparity will likely become more evident, we shall see.

The 10700K is Intel's latest offering and somewhat close in pricing. The FPS at 4k is typically bottle necked by the gpu. You can see that the priciest CPU's aren't giving you much more than the 3700x does at 4k. There's a $100 price difference between the 3700x and 10700k, are a couple of frames really worth that cost?

The Intel's will need a really good cooler, the 3700x stock Wraith is fine but loud under load so I'd suggest a good aftermarket air cooler.


This builds also includes the operating system in the total cost.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($274.49 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB AORUS XTREME Video Card ($1199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($164.99 @ Best Buy)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($108.78 @ Other World Computing)
Total: $2438.08
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-29 14:12 EDT-0400
Would I see much improvement if I went with the Ryzen 9 3900x instead? I wouldn't mind spending the $120 extra if it will make a difference for my 3840x1600 gaming.

Also, do you have a rec for a x570 motherboard with Wi-Fi 6?

Can't thank you enough -- you have been incredibly helpful.
 

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The 3900x is a great cpu but I think it’s overkill for gaming with a 2080ti at 4K. So at this time no. And it does require good cooling to keep it from throttling.

WiFi 6 is on some x570 boards in the midrange price category. At that point none of them are a bad choice. Just depends on what you want to spend vs what the boards offer.
 
Yeah, the main thing the 3900X offers is more cores. For today's games, even the 8-cores with 16-threads provided by a Ryzen 3700X or i7-10700K is going to be more than enough, and I can't really see more cores being particularly beneficial for gaming for quite a while. Maybe if one is multitasking while gaming, like by streaming their gameplay, but in general, processors with more cores are probably only worth considering if one has specific heavily-multithreaded workloads in mind to run on them.
 

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