Hi all.
As you probably already know, there are many companies out there offering "gaming-style" keyboards and mice, and many of these besides having customizable keys & buttons, also feature customizable RGB lighting.
Two of the bigger names out there of these products are Razer and Logitech.
What I'm about to ask here? Yes, I've been to the web sites of these companies and contacted their tech support, and, even posted on their forums. When contacting support, or, when posting a forum message....it can all depend on who happens to answer your question at that point in time.
And when it comes to tech support, I'm sure there are some of you like me that when you received a reply from tech support.....it's more like a "form letter": a very generic response, something most likely Copy/ Pasted. And yes, I understand that sometimes a person's issue first has to go through some type of "Level 1" tech support before having their issue escalated. But still, I swear, sometimes it's like they don't even really fully read your inquiry....
OK......here's what I've contacted both Razer and Logitech about and never really got a straight answer from them:
For their gaming keyboards & mice, both Razer and Logitech have software program installs that let you customize keys/ buttons, and also the RGB lighting. With the initial size of the downloaded installer file? That doesn't really matter, because quite frequently during the install procedure, the installer goes out to the web and pulls down even more data, and, the final install size on the hard drive is much bigger than the original installer size file.
Razer's software program is known as Synapse 3; Logitech's is known as G-Hub.
Razer Synapse's final install size on the hard drive is a bit over 980 MB.
Logitech's G-Hub is around 870 MB.
For both of them - especially Razer's - that install size is getting close to 1 GB.
When I made separate inquiries to both companies as to why this much data is needed on a hard drive to control some key/ button macros & RGB lighting.....there was no straight answer. One company even came out and said to me that the information is proprietary and they don't release it to the public. Fair enough, I suppose. But if I was looking to extract "company secrets", there is always decompiling & reverse-engineering the software program.... JK......
And other answers they gave? It would be the equivalent if you were to ask someone to tell you the time, and they proceed to tell you that it's a sunny, pleasant 75 degrees outside. Swell, sounds like a nice day, but that answer has nothing to do with what I just asked you
And....on some cursory searches on the 'Net on both Synapse 3 & G-Hub.....there are plenty out there who are of the notion that both software programs are bloatware and spyware. And if you read each company's EULA for their software that you have to agree to to perform the install.....yes, some of the terms you have to agree with come off as rather intrusive.
And as some of you might know, with Razer Synapse 3, you have to have an account with them and it Signs you In when you launch (meaning: You have to have an Internet connection). If you boot your system cold, as it first goes through your motherboard's BIOS screen then on into, say, the Windows loading screen....your keyboard and mouse's RGB lighting is going to be cycling through random colors until you get to your desktop and then eventually loads the profile in Razer Synapse 3's program.
So.....anybody here know why these software programs are so huge of an install on a hard drive?
And no, it's not as though I am low on hard drive space, I'm just curious.
As of now, I have a SteelSeries keyboard and their SteelSeries Engine 3 program; all total, it's about 340 to 350 MB on the hard drive. Not as bad as Synapse & G-Hub
And one more thing before I go:
Why are a lot of recent gaming keyboards (SteelSeries, Razer, Logitech....) flipping the symbols on their keys/ key caps?
Here's what I mean; here's a pic from a standard QWERTY keyboard:
https://s289.photobucket.com/user/PezzyDude/media/QWERTY-Keyboard_zps2pm8nbt3.jpg.html
You see how with, for example, the key that has the One and the Exclamation Point (1, !); the 1 is at the bottom of the key cap and the ! is at the top of the key cap. That's what I consider "normal" (if you're typing and you want the ! symbol, you press the Shift key - which also sometimes has an Up-arrow on it because you are Shifting "up" - and press the 1 key, you'll receive the ! symbol.
But many gaming keyboards now look like this:
https://s289.photobucket.com/user/PezzyDude/media/razer-ornata-chroma-keyboard_zpsik8p65l7.jpg.html
See how the number/symbol key caps are flipped upside down? Why is that?
And that includes all the other symbol keys, too, like semicolon & colon (; - apostrophe & quotation marks (' ") - forward slash & question mark (/ ?)
Why have things been flipped?!?!
Pez
As you probably already know, there are many companies out there offering "gaming-style" keyboards and mice, and many of these besides having customizable keys & buttons, also feature customizable RGB lighting.
Two of the bigger names out there of these products are Razer and Logitech.
What I'm about to ask here? Yes, I've been to the web sites of these companies and contacted their tech support, and, even posted on their forums. When contacting support, or, when posting a forum message....it can all depend on who happens to answer your question at that point in time.
And when it comes to tech support, I'm sure there are some of you like me that when you received a reply from tech support.....it's more like a "form letter": a very generic response, something most likely Copy/ Pasted. And yes, I understand that sometimes a person's issue first has to go through some type of "Level 1" tech support before having their issue escalated. But still, I swear, sometimes it's like they don't even really fully read your inquiry....
OK......here's what I've contacted both Razer and Logitech about and never really got a straight answer from them:
For their gaming keyboards & mice, both Razer and Logitech have software program installs that let you customize keys/ buttons, and also the RGB lighting. With the initial size of the downloaded installer file? That doesn't really matter, because quite frequently during the install procedure, the installer goes out to the web and pulls down even more data, and, the final install size on the hard drive is much bigger than the original installer size file.
Razer's software program is known as Synapse 3; Logitech's is known as G-Hub.
Razer Synapse's final install size on the hard drive is a bit over 980 MB.
Logitech's G-Hub is around 870 MB.
For both of them - especially Razer's - that install size is getting close to 1 GB.
When I made separate inquiries to both companies as to why this much data is needed on a hard drive to control some key/ button macros & RGB lighting.....there was no straight answer. One company even came out and said to me that the information is proprietary and they don't release it to the public. Fair enough, I suppose. But if I was looking to extract "company secrets", there is always decompiling & reverse-engineering the software program.... JK......
And other answers they gave? It would be the equivalent if you were to ask someone to tell you the time, and they proceed to tell you that it's a sunny, pleasant 75 degrees outside. Swell, sounds like a nice day, but that answer has nothing to do with what I just asked you
And....on some cursory searches on the 'Net on both Synapse 3 & G-Hub.....there are plenty out there who are of the notion that both software programs are bloatware and spyware. And if you read each company's EULA for their software that you have to agree to to perform the install.....yes, some of the terms you have to agree with come off as rather intrusive.
And as some of you might know, with Razer Synapse 3, you have to have an account with them and it Signs you In when you launch (meaning: You have to have an Internet connection). If you boot your system cold, as it first goes through your motherboard's BIOS screen then on into, say, the Windows loading screen....your keyboard and mouse's RGB lighting is going to be cycling through random colors until you get to your desktop and then eventually loads the profile in Razer Synapse 3's program.
So.....anybody here know why these software programs are so huge of an install on a hard drive?
And no, it's not as though I am low on hard drive space, I'm just curious.
As of now, I have a SteelSeries keyboard and their SteelSeries Engine 3 program; all total, it's about 340 to 350 MB on the hard drive. Not as bad as Synapse & G-Hub
And one more thing before I go:
Why are a lot of recent gaming keyboards (SteelSeries, Razer, Logitech....) flipping the symbols on their keys/ key caps?
Here's what I mean; here's a pic from a standard QWERTY keyboard:
https://s289.photobucket.com/user/PezzyDude/media/QWERTY-Keyboard_zps2pm8nbt3.jpg.html
You see how with, for example, the key that has the One and the Exclamation Point (1, !); the 1 is at the bottom of the key cap and the ! is at the top of the key cap. That's what I consider "normal" (if you're typing and you want the ! symbol, you press the Shift key - which also sometimes has an Up-arrow on it because you are Shifting "up" - and press the 1 key, you'll receive the ! symbol.
But many gaming keyboards now look like this:
https://s289.photobucket.com/user/PezzyDude/media/razer-ornata-chroma-keyboard_zpsik8p65l7.jpg.html
See how the number/symbol key caps are flipped upside down? Why is that?
And that includes all the other symbol keys, too, like semicolon & colon (; - apostrophe & quotation marks (' ") - forward slash & question mark (/ ?)
Why have things been flipped?!?!
Pez