Gaming on a Opteron 6272

[Adam Schneider]

Ok, before everyone starts the whole "You don't need a opteron for gaming" I know this. There is a company that is upgrading their servers near my house. I have a buddy that works there, one thing leads to another and now I can get 2 6272 for the same price as a 8320. My questions is this, is the 6272 even a bottle neck for a gpu? I have a Xeon e3-1230v2 with a 780Ti in my current system. Any infor would be awesome. Now im not thinking "12 CORES! DAT GAMING PERFORMANCE!" Just if i can save a buck, I will. Thats why i got a Xeon in my current build.

****** NOTE: I AM GONNA BUY A DUAL CPU MOBO IF I GET THESE PROCESSORS *******

 

[fonzieguy]

The Xeon you have will outperform it in any game. It would be a downgrade to get the Opteron.

 

[delaro]

Gaming will only use one CPU and four or less cores so a 16 Core 3.0 ghz CPU gaming on 4 cores isn't going to be initializing even half it's potential. You would also need to look at overclocking to achieve better performance, The bad news is that it doesn’t appear that you can change the multiplier with Opterons the way you can with FXs.

This means that you have to increase the “FSB” on an Opteron motherboard in order to overclock. Since no Opteron motherboard (even in theory) goes over 300MHz, this will limit the speeds you could even theoretically reach so in others words not much overclocking headroom.

If your wanting Max Settings and 1080P then you would need a Opteron @ 3.5ghz and above. Theoretically that would get you close to the performance of a FX-6XXX or FX-8XXX before a moderate overclock on those chips.

 

[Adam Schneider]

The Xeon you have will outperform it in any game. It would be a downgrade to get the Opteron.

I forgot to mention that I was gonna use a Dual CPU Mobo.

 

[Adam Schneider]

I was trying to sell off components to my current build to facilitate the purchase of a 980Ti. I think I may have my answers, but I'm gonna wait on some more information before I pick a winner.

 

[Adam Schneider]

Gaming will only use one CPU and four or less cores so a 16 Core 3.0 ghz CPU gaming on 4 cores isn't going to be initializing even half it's potential. You would also need to look at overclocking to achieve better performance, The bad news is that it doesn’t appear that you can change the multiplier with Opterons the way you can with FXs.

This means that you have to increase the “FSB” on an Opteron motherboard in order to overclock. Since no Opteron motherboard (even in theory) goes over 300MHz, this will limit the speeds you could even theoretically reach so in others words not much overclocking headroom.

If your wanting Max Settings and 1080P then you would need a Opteron @ 3.5ghz and above. Theoretically that would get you close to the performance of a FX-6XXX or FX-8XXX before a moderate overclock on those chips.

I see, Also I like your Ohm's Law Picture. Yeah I new the operating frequency was gonna be an issue, I just didn't know if the extra cores would make up for it, but you are right most games are coded with single core, or dual core in mind.

I'm wanting max settings at 1440p thats why Im trying to get creative in freeing up money for a 980Ti.

 

[delaro]

Your better off sticking to a Xeon e3-1230v2, anything AMD has will be a downgrade. I guess I failed to mention that in my long winded post above, Gaming on a Opteron is more of a I picked it up cheap and I want to play around with it thing.

 

[Adam Schneider]

Your better off sticking to a Xeon e3-1230v2, anything AMD has will be a downgrade. I guess I failed to mention that in my long winded post above, Gaming on a Opteron is more of a I picked it up cheap and I want to play around with it thing.

I was wanting to get a dual CPU configuration, not for performance, but for bragging rights. Thats why my question was "Would it bottle neck a GPU". Thank you for your answer.

I was gonna sell my CPU, GPU, and MOBO. as well as some other tech I got laying around the house. Then buy cheaper CPU and Mobo to try and swing a 980 Ti upgrade out of the deal. As long as the CPU I picked, downgrade or not, wasn't a bottle neck for a GPU.


Thank you.

 

[delaro]

I see, Also I like your Ohm's Law Picture. Yeah I new the operating frequency was gonna be an issue, I just didn't know if the extra cores would make up for it, but you are right most games are coded with single core, or dual core in mind. I'm wanting max settings at 1440p thats why Im trying to get creative in freeing up money for a 980Ti

Most people "90%" don't even realize what my Avatar means. 😛 Modern games will use 2-4 cores, most the new ones if not all use or expect 4 cores. If you want Max Settings a I5-4690K will do that as well overclocked to 4.5ghz they are a Beast and I could only see moving higher if your running 4K and multiple GPU's.

Im big on resell and finding used parts cheap, if you can get those Opteron's cheaper then you could resell and make some profit off it, I scan Ebay, Craigslist and Tech Forums all the time for something I can make a profit off of this is how I fund my upgrades but it's a risk sometimes.

 

[John Wittenberg]

With Windows 10 and DX12 all of the familiar conventions are thrown out the window.

With DX12 games more cores, even if they are slower cores, WILL be better. Why? API overhead is reduced drastically as well as the added true multi core support is an integral part of the API.

I'm in the process of installing Windows 10 on my 4P amd 6272 (es) system with xfire 290's to see how it handles. I doubt more than 2P are supported, but who knows?

Edit: Nope, just 2P as usual. I tried to load Shadow of Mordor with AMD beta 15.6, but just got a black screen. Fire Strike was bad, 5500 points. The DX12 API test didn't run well on DX11, mantle, or DX12 compared to my 3930K 780Ti sli system on windows 10. That could very well be because I was noticing hitching while in the desktop, and the benchmark Valley (or any 3D game that I could load) started out with very low FPS and climbed slowly. I'm guessing the drivers aren't there yet.

 

[delaro]

With Windows 10 and DX12 all of the familiar conventions are thrown out the window.

With DX12 games more cores, even if they are slower cores, WILL be better. Why? API overhead is reduced drastically as well as the added true multi core support is an integral part of the API.

I'm in the process of installing Windows 10 on my 4P amd 6272 (es) system with xfire 290's to see how it handles. I doubt more than 2P are supported, but who knows?

Edit: Nope, just 2P as usual. I tried to load Shadow of Mordor with AMD beta 15.6, but just got a black screen. Fire Strike was bad, 5500 points. The DX12 API test didn't run well on DX11, mantle, or DX12 compared to my 3930K 780Ti sli system on windows 10. That could very well be because I was noticing hitching while in the desktop, and the benchmark Valley (or any 3D game that I could load) started out with very low FPS and climbed slowly. I'm guessing the drivers aren't there yet.

Nothing about Dx12 and Win 10 has been proven in Gaming performance and even then 2 CPU's will not benefit him, no API was programmed to make use of this. By default one CPU will get used and the other will do nothing. 2 Quad Core CPU's will not give you 8 Cores unless the OS and Software is optimized to uses this setup. Now if you wanted to make 2 separated Desktops from one computer that is possible.

 

[John Wittenberg]

With Windows 10 and DX12 all of the familiar conventions are thrown out the window.

With DX12 games more cores, even if they are slower cores, WILL be better. Why? API overhead is reduced drastically as well as the added true multi core support is an integral part of the API.

I'm in the process of installing Windows 10 on my 4P amd 6272 (es) system with xfire 290's to see how it handles. I doubt more than 2P are supported, but who knows?

Edit: Nope, just 2P as usual. I tried to load Shadow of Mordor with AMD beta 15.6, but just got a black screen. Fire Strike was bad, 5500 points. The DX12 API test didn't run well on DX11, mantle, or DX12 compared to my 3930K 780Ti sli system on windows 10. That could very well be because I was noticing hitching while in the desktop, and the benchmark Valley (or any 3D game that I could load) started out with very low FPS and climbed slowly. I'm guessing the drivers aren't there yet.

Nothing about Dx12 and Win 10 has been proven in Gaming performance and even then 2 CPU's will not benefit him, no API was programmed to make use of this. By default one CPU will get used and the other will do nothing. 2 Quad Core CPU's will not give you 8 Cores unless the OS and Software is optimized to uses this setup. Now if you wanted to make 2 separated Desktops from one computer that is possible.

Dude, of course it hasn't been proven - it hasn't been released yet! That and there aren't any DIrectX 12 games either. Yet from everything that has been written and said about Windows 10 and DirectX 12, it will make more cores better. It is, supposedly I'll grant you, already at the API level and the game programmers don't have to do anything but USE DX12 for their games for multi core systems to benefit.

 

[Firestone]

Hey just wondering, did you go through with it? I am really interested in these processors. You want to sell them?

 

[Adam Schneider]

Hey just wondering, did you go through with it? I am really interested in these processors. You want to sell them?

I didn't go through with it, I am sticking with my LGA 1155 Xeon until the Skylake processors come out. Then I'll get a lga 1150 Xeon.

I am also gonna wait one more GPU generation before I upgrade. My 780Ti isn't being slowed down by anything, at the moment.

 

[Petra_2]

All answers here are wrong. If your game is chess opteron is much better. Sugar 2.6 can use even 100 cores in chess game, because is designed for up to 100 cores. Normally chess use up to 16 cores. So is not definitely true all games use just one core! Some video games use 4 cores and in future it will be surely more. So you need consider also this.

 

[delaro]

All answers here are wrong. If your game is chess opteron is much better. Sugar 2.6 can use even 100 cores in chess game, because is designed for up to 100 cores. Normally chess use up to 16 cores. So is not definitely true all games use just one core! Some video games use 4 cores and in future it will be surely more. So you need consider also this.

You have no idea do you? NO commercial AAA title on the market uses more than 4 cores and a large majority of them still use 2-3 cores, that chess game might but I'm pretty sure he wants more in terms of gaming that just that.

[qoute]I'm wanting max settings at 1440p thats why Im trying to get creative in freeing up money for a 980Ti.[/quote]

For what he wants he should avoid AMD CPU's altogether, a I5 4690K or I5 6600 both overclocked would be the minimum I would even suggest for starting out in 1440p and at least a 980 GTX or better.