Question Gaming Pc build

[NickMeister101]

Hey so my friend is selling his gaming pc for $1000 I’m thinking of buying it but not sure if it’s worth it. The specs are
MSI bazooka motherboard
Ryzen 7 2nd Gen 2700X (3.70 GHz)


16 GB DDR4


1 TB HDD 240 GB SSD


Windows 10 Home 64-Bit


EVGA Nvidia Geforce 1060 6gb

600W PSU

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[DSzymborski]

Bad deal. While it's not a terribly configured machine, some key information has been left out in the form of the exact PSU (600W PSU doesn't tell us anything) and the speed of the RAM.

Even assuming there's at least DDR4-3000 RAM in there and a quality 600W PSU (neither of which is a given as Cyberpower includes slow RAM and a garbage PSU unless you specify otherwise), that's a $900-$1000 PC new, including Windows.

 

[greigm78]

You could basically build that system with brand new (and possibly better) components for less than he is selling his used one for.

So as above, bad deal.

 

[Finstar]

Here's a faster brand new system for the same price:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($174.99 @ Walmart)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Steel Legend ATX AM4 Motherboard ($105.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: GeIL - EVO POTENZA 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - P1 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($69.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB OC Video Card ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 275R (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($53.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($63.97 @ Newegg)
Total: $943.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-06 03:06 EDT-0400

 

[iMatty]

You didn't even include a power supply how is it supposed to work?
with that build you just mentioned he needs at least a gold power supply to not fry his components.

Here's a faster brand new system for the same price:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor ($292.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Steel Legend ATX AM4 Motherboard ($105.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: GeIL - EVO POTENZA 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - P1 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($69.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB OC Video Card ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 275R (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($53.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $997.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-06 02:56 EDT-0400

 

[logainofhades]

Horrible buy indeed. You can still go with a Ryzen 2700, with a budget cooler, and come out faster, cheaper, and quieter, assuming the cooler is stock, on that rig.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($224.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool - GAMMAXX 400 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($89.14 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($80.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card ($279.99 @ Newegg)
Case: RIOTORO - CR488 ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $940.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-06 09:23 EDT-0400


For $10 more, that your friend's rig, you can get a 2060, and still stick with an 8 core.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($224.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool - GAMMAXX 400 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($89.14 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($80.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB GAMING Video Card ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Case: RIOTORO - CR488 ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1010.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-06 09:24 EDT-0400


This close to Ryzen 3000, though, unless you really need a rig now, you might want to hold off. If you have a Microcenter nearby, you can get some things even cheaper, than listed above.

 

[DSzymborski]

I'd take Logain's build easily and what's more, you get all the warranty coverage on the parts. Getting your used build, only the GPU will really have a chance to be replaced if it breaks (one reason there's usually at least a small additional cost for EVGA GPUs is that they have a very generous warranty policy towards people who buys used).

 

[ElectrO_90]

Why would he need a cooler? The 2700 has a decent Wraith one.
Also everyone falls for the trap of a 1TB hdd, where you can spend 10$ more for a 2TB

I do like Logain's latter build, but still don't think you need a $25 cooler - I would spend the $25 saved on a Windows 10 CD key from Guru3d or Ebay for cheaper

 

[AllanGH]

Mention to your friend that, in today's market, and with the high incidence of incompetent overclocking being done on computers; the moment you power-up a new PC, it's worth about half what you paid for it--in some cases much less than that.

 

[logainofhades]

Why would he need a cooler? The 2700 has a decent Wraith one.
Also everyone falls for the trap of a 1TB hdd, where you can spend 10$ more for a 2TB

I do like Logain's latter build, but still don't think you need a $25 cooler - I would spend the $25 saved on a Windows 10 CD key from Guru3d or Ebay for cheaper

Cooler, quieter, and cheaper than a 2700x. The Wraith can get quite loud. Also those keys are a gamble, that aren't worth taking.

 

[ElectrO_90]

Cooler, quieter, and cheaper than a 2700x. The Wraith can get quite loud. Also those keys are a gamble, that aren't worth taking.

Still the AMD Wraith cooler is more than fine for a 2700 - https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-wraith-cpu-cooler,4450-2.html
I must have done over 100 keys now, and never had a problem. Each to their own, all depends if you can afford the Win 10 RRP or the cheaper version.

 

[NickMeister101]

Horrible buy indeed. You can still go with a Ryzen 2700, with a budget cooler, and come out faster, cheaper, and quieter, assuming the cooler is stock, on that rig.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($224.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool - GAMMAXX 400 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($89.14 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($80.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card ($279.99 @ Newegg)
Case: RIOTORO - CR488 ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $940.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-06 09:23 EDT-0400


For $10 more, that your friend's rig, you can get a 2060, and still stick with an 8 core.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($224.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool - GAMMAXX 400 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($89.14 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($80.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB GAMING Video Card ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Case: RIOTORO - CR488 ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1010.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-06 09:24 EDT-0400


This close to Ryzen 3000, though, unless you really need a rig now, you might want to hold off. If you have a Microcenter nearby, you can get some things even cheaper, than listed above.

Thanks for the feedback really appreciate it