Gaming PC Build

[adrennn]

Ok, so I was trying to get some opinions on the best gaming pc able to play Modern Games on max with a 24 inch monitor at a 1920 x 1080 Res.

Some Requirements:
-Must have an i5 or i7
-Must have a good enough power supply to support dual cards
-Must be below $2000
-Minimum FPS on said games must be 60

Thanks
-Adrennn

 

[AdrianPerry]

i5-2500k
8GB RAM
SLI 560Ti's
750w PSU (decent PSU, not any old crap).

Will run all current games maxed out with solid FPS and should provide the same performance for all upcoming games aswell.

 

[adrennn]

What motherboard would you suggest?

 

[AdrianPerry]

P67 or Z68 socket 1155.

Im seeing the ASRock Extreme Gen3 Boards suggest alot recently due to their "future proof" PCI 3.0 support.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=extreme+gen3&x=0&y=0

Based on NewEgg reviews theres a few BIOS problems with OC'ing currently, but that should be sorted soon. Its still in early release days.

 

[mjmjpfaff]

i5 2500k- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072 220$

Asrock Extreme7 Gen3- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157269 280$

PC power and cooling 950w- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703028 135$ after promo code

Samsung spinpoint f3 1tb- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185&Tpk=samsung%20f3%201tb 60$

Corsair Force GT 120gb- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233191&Tpk=force%20gt%20120gb 225$

Silverstone Raven RV03- http://www.amazon.com/Silverstone-Extended-90-Degree-Motherboard-RV03B-W/dp/B004X19B02/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1315348194&sr=8-1 140$

Corsair Vengeance 8gb 1600mhz- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233186 53$

MSI GTX 580 Twin Frozr II- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127567 495$

Sony 24x DVD Burner- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118039 20$

 

[aznshinobi]

Check out my $1000 build here:
http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore
Just add another 6950 2GB or 560 Ti and you're set.

 

[adrennn]

What is PCI 3.0 exactly?

 

[mjmjpfaff]

it is what the new gpu's will use for the ivy bridge platform (aka gen3)

 

[steelbeast]

Asrock Extreme7 Gen3- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157269 280$

Just curious, why are you recommending him the extreme7 board when he will get the exact same gaming performance on an extreme3 for $140 less?

 

[aznshinobi]

^+1

PCI 3 is NOT BECAUSE of Ivy Bridge. PCI 3.0 is the next step up from PCI 2.0/2.1 it'll increase the amount of bandwidth allowed, which you could say would allow for more performance. The only really stupid thing is that we haven't even fully taken advantage of PCI 2.0 yet.

 

[mjmjpfaff]

^+1

PCI 3 is NOT BECAUSE of Ivy Bridge. PCI 3.0 is the next step up from PCI 2.0/2.1 it'll increase the amount of bandwidth allowed, which you could say would allow for more performance. The only really stupid thing is that we haven't even fully taken advantage of PCI 2.0 yet.

i know it is not because of ivy bridge but it is going to be standard on all of the ivy bridge boards.

i am recommending that board because a NF2000 bridge reduces micro stuttering in multi-gpu setups.

 

[steelbeast]

i know it is not because of ivy bridge but it is going to be standard on all of the ivy bridge boards.

i am recommending that board because a NF2000 bridge reduces micro stuttering in multi-gpu setups.

Ehh, so you wanna spend $180 more for 5 extra FPS?


If I notice microstuttering, can I minimize/eliminate it?
Yes. By running the game at a setting where your graphics cards are able to output more than the monitors refresh rate (that is, the maximum FPS the monitors are capible of; the pixels on your screen can only change so fast) microstuttering is eliminated completely. Most monitors have a refresh rate of 60 or 70Hz, meaning you would need 70 or 80 FPS to eliminate microstuttering. Also, running the game in Split Frame Rendering (SFR), with the top half being rendered by one card and the bottom half being rendered by the other, will eliminate microstuttering, but opens the door to tearing and a performance hit. I don't know if SFR is even still supported...

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1317582

 

[mjmjpfaff]

Ehh, so you wanna spend $180 more for 5 extra FPS?


If I notice microstuttering, can I minimize/eliminate it?
Yes. By running the game at a setting where your graphics cards are able to output more than the monitors refresh rate (that is, the maximum FPS the monitors are capible of; the pixels on your screen can only change so fast) microstuttering is eliminated completely. Most monitors have a refresh rate of 60 or 70Hz, meaning you would need 70 or 80 FPS to eliminate microstuttering. Also, running the game in Split Frame Rendering (SFR), with the top half being rendered by one card and the bottom half being rendered by the other, will eliminate microstuttering, but opens the door to tearing and a performance hit. I don't know if SFR is even still supported...

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1317582

ok im taking note of that thanks for the info.

 

[steelbeast]

ok im taking note of that thanks for the info.

Just goes to show that there's so much misinformation on the 'net. It took me 30 secs to google that.

 

[aznshinobi]

Micro-stuttering is a minor thing. In some cases it barely effects gameplay. When I micro-stutter sometimes I rarely die because the interval of the FPS drop is so small and the time that it occurs is short as well. People just make a big fuss about a second of disturbed gameplay out of probably an hour.

 

[tomskent]

omg, $2000 can get you a BEAST of a machine!

You can make a machine with just $1000 that will destory the majority of games at 1080p @ 60fps

 

[steelbeast]

omg, $2000 can get you a BEAST of a machine!

You can make a machine with just $1000 that will destroy the majority of games at 1080p @ 60fps

Yep. I just ordered a machine WITH 3 25in. MONITORS in Eyefinity and a CF setup for $2,173/AR shipped lol. People love to waste money on an overpriced MoBo and case. Here's my build;

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/320186-31-build-monitors#t2384915

 

[phenom90]

for $2000... you can get parts like this one...

cpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072
core i5 2500k - $220

mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271
ASRock Z68 Extreme3 - $125

ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233186
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB Low Profile CML8GX3M2A1600C9 -$53

cpu cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181011
CORSAIR CAFA70 - $27 after MIR

psu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194093
LEPA B850-MA 850W - $70 after MIR

gpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133360
PNY VCGGTX580XPB GeForce GTX 580 - $420 after MIR

hdd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB - $60

ssd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442
Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB - $193

case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042
Antec Three Hundred - $45 after MIR

case fan: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103069
3x COOLER MASTER R4-BMBS-20PK-R0 Blade Master 120mm - $30

odd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136236
LG DVD Burner 24X GH24NS70 - $21

total: $1264 after MIR excluding shipping

 

[adrennn]

Can someone give me all the reasons why I should get the AsRockZ68 Extreme? Its being suggested an awful lot lately, just wanna know why

 

[aznshinobi]

We have... PCI 3.0, for the price it gives you tri-SLI or tri-CF. It's a solid board anyways with very nice features...

 

[adrennn]

Ok sounds good, just making sure I wasn't missing anything

 

[phenom90]

for that price it's a good mobo indeed...