"Gaming PC" cant even run basic games help please.

[regan1214]

Hi guys,

This is my last resort before going into a local PC store. I recently brought a 'Gaming PC' from Harvey Norman.. now I realise its most likely far from a 'Gaming PC' and I get a sneaking suspicion Harvey Norman ripped me off (surprise surprise).

I understand I got ripped off only here to try get some help

PC will run games like League of Legends fine however, Fall out 4/GTA V/Mad max etc the PC seems to have no hope.

PC specs as below

AMD A10 7700k 3.4GHz/3.8Ghz SKT FM2
16GB DDR3 'Gaming memory'
2TB SATA hard disk drive
128 GB SATA SSD
NVidia Geforce GTX750-2GB GDDR5-PCI-E 'Gaming edition'
Aquila Gaming chassis with 400w gaming 80+ PSU
Running Windows 10

If anyone has any suggestions that would be greatly appreciated, I'm hoping the above specs should be able to run at least high graphics without a problem.

Thanks

 

[qwertyK]

Hi, you could reduce screen resolution. If playing at 1080p, lower down to 1600x900 or 1280x720. Hope I helped.

 

[regan1214]

Hi, you could reduce screen resolution. If playing at 1080p, lower down to 1600x900 or 1280x720. Hope I helped.

Hey,

Thanks for the reply I will be sure to try this when I get home, at this stage looks like I'm going back to the PS4

 

[qwertyK]

Can you return the PC? Or is it too late?

 

[Mark_1970]

If the pc meets the minimal requirements for the game, it can play them, only as above turn down res and other details to low/med and it may play without lag

 

[regan1214]

Can you return the PC? Or is it too late?

I've had it for around 3-4 months could possibly try return it, however if there is any improvements I can make to have the PC run better im more than happy to. If I was to get an improved Graphics card would this make any difference?

 

[qwertyK]

Yeah, probably. Lots of custom built PC companies rip you off by saying a PC is a "gaming PC" when it has a really low end GPU. Is your 750 a 1GB card? Because the 750ti has 2GB, that would make a HUGE difference.

 

[Mark_1970]

It works this way for example, 700 series gpu starts with 710 being the lowest powered and 790 being greatest of the series, same with 800/900 series Nvidias . Go the higher numbered in the series and it will output better quality. More memory on the gpu also helps. But they also need a higher watt power supply to match. A better cpu may go into the motherboard slot also, but must match the motherboard/cpu slot and bios

 

[regan1214]

Yeah, probably. Lots of custom built PC companies rip you off by saying a PC is a "gaming PC" when it has a really low end GPU. Is your 750 a 1GB card? Because the 750ti has 2GB, that would make a HUGE difference.

I'm at work ATM so my partner sent me a picture of the specs on the side of PC. It says the 750 is 2gb?

 

[qwertyK]

There's no such card as the 710 or 790 mate.

 

[Mark_1970]

There's no such card as the 710 or 790 mate.

oh yes there is google it MATE , perhaps b4 you say it for all to read lol.. mainly that the two last numbers on the Nvidia and AMD cards denote a higher output on that series/year was the point
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-790-dualgk110-geforce/
http://www.game-debate.com/hardware/?gid=1556&graphics=GeForce%20GT%20710

 

[qwertyK]

You mean the GT710. Not sure what you meant about the 790.

 

[Proofy]

Your RAM, HDD and SSD are fine, cpu is fine altho an i5 would be better for gaming; you didn't write which mobo you have tho. GPU and power supply are crap. To run the games you mentioned above on decent quality you will need a better GPU for sure. I would recommend GTX 970 or if you don't have money for it then used GTX 770 will do the trick! I'm sorry that Harvey Norman ripped you off. Next time consult with people here before you buy some of the new tech in future

 

[regan1214]

Your RAM, HDD and SSD are fine, cpu is fine altho an i5 would be better for gaming; you didn't write which mobo you have tho. GPU and power supply are crap. To run the games you mentioned above on decent quality you will need a better GPU for sure. I would recommend GTX 970 or if you don't have money for it then used GTX 770 will do the trick! I'm sorry that Harvey Norman ripped you off. Next time consult with people here before you buy some of the new tech in future

Hey Proofy,
Thanks for the helpful reply, so your recommendation is a better GPU should do the trick? Also in reference to 'Mobo' I have no idea what that is referring too

Which one would be most suitable https://www.pccasegear.com/category/193_1692 ??

 

[qwertyK]

MOBO is short for "motherboard" thats the main system board that connects all the components. Really this won't affect performance. I wouldn't buy a 970 though, its WAY overkill, and will be bottlenecked by your processor. I think if you do upgrade it should be a GTX 750ti at the least and ideally a 950 or 960. On the other side, AMD, I recommend you get an R7 370 or R9 380. Just make sure you upgrade the PSU. Here is one that will be able to handle some very capable cards, including the 970: http://www.amazon.co.uk/EVGA-600W-Bronze-Power-Supply/dp/B00EN3FD20/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1451378288&sr=8-2&keywords=evga+600w EVGA 600B.

 

[regan1214]

MOBO is short for "motherboard" thats the main system board that connects all the components. Really this won't affect performance. I wouldn't buy a 970 though, its WAY overkill, and will be bottlenecked by your processor. I think if you do upgrade it should be a GTX 750ti at the least and ideally a 950 or 960. On the other side, AMD, I recommend you get an R7 370 or R9 380. Just make sure you upgrade the PSU. Here is one that will be able to handle some very capable cards, including the 970: http://www.amazon.co.uk/EVGA-600W-Bronze-Power-Supply/dp/B00EN3FD20/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1451378288&sr=8-2&keywords=evga+600w EVGA 600B.

Awesome finally we're getting somewhere! So ideally upgrade power supply to 600W and GPU and this would make an improvement?

Is this something that is simple to DIY or a job for a PC shop?

 

[qwertyK]

It really depends on how confident you are on opening up your PC. Have you ever done this before? Installing the video card is easy, you just take out the old one and put the new one in. Installing the PSU is a little fiddly, because you have to reconnect everything. I made a guide for this, check it out. Its for building a new computer, but its pretty much the same thing. Just look for installing PSU, and installing GPU section. Hope I helped. Here's the guide: https://sites.google.com/site/todaystechinfouk/b

 

[regan1214]

It really depends on how confident you are on opening up your PC. Have you ever done this before? Installing the video card is easy, you just take out the old one and put the new one in. Installing the PSU is a little fiddly, because you have to reconnect everything. I made a guide for this, check it out. Its for building a new computer, but its pretty much the same thing. Just look for installing PSU, and installing GPU section. Hope I helped. Here's the guide: https://sites.google.com/site/todaystechinfouk/b

Never done it before but hey there's always a first time

You and everyone else has been tremendously helpful was really not expecting such a prompt reply!

 

[Proofy]

MOBO is short for "motherboard" thats the main system board that connects all the components. Really this won't affect performance. I wouldn't buy a 970 though, its WAY overkill, and will be bottlenecked by your processor. I think if you do upgrade it should be a GTX 750ti at the least and ideally a 950 or 960. On the other side, AMD, I recommend you get an R7 370 or R9 380. Just make sure you upgrade the PSU. Here is one that will be able to handle some very capable cards, including the 970: http://www.amazon.co.uk/EVGA-600W-Bronze-Power-Supply/dp/B00EN3FD20/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1451378288&sr=8-2&keywords=evga+600w EVGA 600B.

It won't be the best pairing, he would get some bottlenecking from A10 7700k but would feel huge improvement in performance. If you don't have the money for GTX 970 then go for used 770 like I suggested. It would be roughly the same price of 960 but stronger card. You will get low to none bottleneck using 770 depeding on the game that you play.

 

[qwertyK]

Its no problem. Did you look through the guide? If you find it difficult to understand, I'll upload a video if you like. The main enemy of PC parts is static. So as long as you keep discharging yourself on the case or something you'll be good. Doing it yourself is better in my opinion because you learn something new, its more rewarding, and save money.

 

[qwertyK]

MOBO is short for "motherboard" thats the main system board that connects all the components. Really this won't affect performance. I wouldn't buy a 970 though, its WAY overkill, and will be bottlenecked by your processor. I think if you do upgrade it should be a GTX 750ti at the least and ideally a 950 or 960. On the other side, AMD, I recommend you get an R7 370 or R9 380. Just make sure you upgrade the PSU. Here is one that will be able to handle some very capable cards, including the 970: http://www.amazon.co.uk/EVGA-600W-Bronze-Power-Supply/dp/B00EN3FD20/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1451378288&sr=8-2&keywords=evga+600w EVGA 600B.

It won't be the best pairing, he would get some bottlenecking from A10 7700k but would feel huge improvement in performance. If you don't have the money for GTX 970 then go for used 770 like I suggested. It would be roughly the same price of 960 but stronger card. You will get low to none bottleneck using 770 depeding on the game that you play.

But the 970 will be a huge bottleneck! Might as well get i5, motherboard, and 750ti for the price of a 970 and a 600w PSU. A 960 is as high as I would go.

 

[Proofy]

He could get i5 and good mobo for the price of 970 that's true... 770 costs about $150 now tho, it's a shame to buy new 960 which is more expensive but lower performance card. Once he upgrades to i5 and new mobo he can buy second 770 which would be even cheaper and 2x770 > 1x 980.. just saying

 

[qwertyK]

Its just the 770 is a bit old now, although still a very good performer, and no warranty if used...

 

[Mark_1970]

MOBO is short for "motherboard" thats the main system board that connects all the components. Really this won't affect performance. I wouldn't buy a 970 though, its WAY overkill, and will be bottlenecked by your processor. I think if you do upgrade it should be a GTX 750ti at the least and ideally a 950 or 960. On the other side, AMD, I recommend you get an R7 370 or R9 380. Just make sure you upgrade the PSU. Here is one that will be able to handle some very capable cards, including the 970: http://www.amazon.co.uk/EVGA-600W-Bronze-Power-Supply/dp/B00EN3FD20/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1451378288&sr=8-2&keywords=evga+600w EVGA 600B.

It won't be the best pairing, he would get some bottlenecking from A10 7700k but would feel huge improvement in performance. If you don't have the money for GTX 970 then go for used 770 like I suggested. It would be roughly the same price of 960 but stronger card. You will get low to none bottleneck using 770 depeding on the game that you play.

But the 970 will be a huge bottleneck! Might as well get i5, motherboard, and 750ti for the price of a 970 and a 600w PSU. A 960 is as high as I would go.

Dude i cannot fathom why you suggest a GTX 750 TI over his already GTX 750 as it is not much better and will still not meet his needs for AAA gaming. Listen to the other guy with a bigger psu and a 770 or 970 or the like and with 4gb memory on it

 

[qwertyK]

Yes, but the A10 is just a gimmick. Its really just a non-powerful quad core with a decent iGPU. That's it main draw. So if you pair a high end GPU with it, it wil;l be bottlenecked. An Athlon 860K, half the price of the A10, is just the A10 with no graphics.