Gaming PC for WoW ~$800 - need guidance

jbramble

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I'm trying to put together a gaming pc on newegg - i tried once, but couldn't really commit to it at the time, and lost all the info.

All I want to do on it is play WoW at high settings (max if possible at highest res.), and watch movies.

I'm up for anything - amd or intel , whatever you think is best.

- Really would like to have all of this, plus a monitor for about $800.



Guidance is GREATLY appreciated!


edit: Something that I can have and use for at least 2 to 4 years would be ideal!
 

ElysianWhip

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Monitor gonna cut off about ~$200 which would leave you with

600 for

Mobo (50-100)
CPU (100-220)
Ram (~50)
GPU (100-200)
Case (50-200)
HDD (~60)
dvd-rw (~20)
PSU (50-100)

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB - $60
dvd-rw 24x - $20
nvidia 560ti
g.skill 1333mhz - (you only really need 4gb of ram)
AMD Phenom II x4 955 - $119 (great quality, well worth the money) i5 2500k would be over kill

For the mobo you should look at a AM3+ 990FX motherboard if you want it to last for the next 4 years.

WoW runs better on a single gpu setup so 1x 560ti would be overkill imo since the game is rather old.

gl with the build lol.
Monitor won't be that much. I'm going to post up a build in a second for you.
 

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even a gts450 will be able to run WoW on max settings @a resolution of 1200, so this is what i would reccommend:

an i3-2100:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078

a GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3-B3:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128501

8gb 1600Mhz ddr3 ram:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428&cm_sp=Cat_Memory-_-Daily_Deal-_-20-231-428

an antec 300 case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066

this XFX 650W PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207014

a 1tb samsung F3 7200RPM HDD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185&Tpk=samsung%20f3

a DVD-RW drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289

an EVGA gts 450:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130663

all for $554.93

i chose parts that will allow you to upgrade in the future, hence the 650W PSU and the mobo.

an i3-2100 vs a phenom 965:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=289

if you go down to the WoW benches, you can see that the i3-2100 gets about 20FPS more than the phenom 965.
 
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ther are resolutions higher than 1200 too, theres 1600 for example, but thats where most people stop but it does go even further:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_resolution

also this is the monitor i would reccommend with only a 2ms response time it would be great for online gaming:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009245

or this if you dont mind a 5ms response time, 3ms hardly makes a difference in my opinion, but if your a hardcore gamer it mgiht:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009297
 

jbramble

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So PS3hacker12's build will play WoW at max settings and at the highest res. possible for the game?

I'm also worried about multitasking on the build - dont enjoy hickups while streaming video
 

ps3hacker12

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yes, even at 1600 you should be able to get 50+ FPS (30FPS is console gameplay, 40+ is great 50+ is fantastic and 60+ is the best):
wow_2560_1600.gif

(look at the bar highlighted in blue) notice this is at 2560x1600.

at1080p you should get 60+ FPS.
this rig should be able to handle large scale multitasking (8gb ram) and blu-ray video playback without any hiccups too.
 

jbramble

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p07h34d - nah, I don't care for Diablo at all. Especially that whole Real Money AH thing Blizzard's got going on now. Insane.

ps3hacker12 - is it worth it to upgrade to an i5 ?
 

ps3hacker12

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for your needs no, but you could if you wanted upgrade to a 2500K (or you could upgrade to one in the future) but i wouldn't reccommend it, it would give better performance but at a high price:

i3-2100 vs a 2500K:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/289?vs=288

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

at $95 more i wouldn't reccommend it for your needs. But if you can afford it, you could if you wanted.
 

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For starters, I'm assuming you can buy this all from newegg. Not really enough information. Would be helpful to know if you need operating system/other things or not.... This build is AMD based, but although someone stated the i3 is better than the x4 amd core (which it is) I believe this build is all around better for the future and will help you out in the long run.

Basically what you have is an alternative amd build with an Upgrade proof Motherboard and PSU.

Monitor: ($140)
Acer G235HAbd 23'' 5ms 1920x1080 WideScreen LCD monitor

note: No built in speakers or TV tuner, this could be a problem, but if it isn't than it sure is perfectly priced.

DVD Drive: ($20)
Simple drive, does the job.

Case: ($50)
RoseWill challenger

CPU: ($120)
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ955FBGMBOX

note: Due to the monitor decided to go with an AMD CPU and motherboard for upgradability when new bulldozer models come. This way you have a great start and if you do end up needing more CPU power you can upgrade in the future.

HDD: ($60)
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

Ram: ($55)
G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBSR

MotherBoard: ($110)
ASUS M4A88T-V EVO/USB3 AM3 AMD 880G HDMI USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

note:an upgradable board for you.

GPU: ($160)
HIS H685F1GD Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity

Note: PLENTY for WoW, and if you decide to go more serious you can pop another one of these in for Crossfire.

PSU: ($95)
Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-750 750W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

Note:Great for if you decide to get another card in the future. If not you can bump it down to save money.
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TOTAL: $810

I know I went over by a bit, but this is before rebates. Also it will be about $25 under budget if you decide to get a lower PSU.
 

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An AMD build huh? If I chose to get the i5 instead of the i3, would you still suggest your build?

edit: I dont need an OS - ive got that covered, i can find a mouse and keyboard , and have speakers already.
 

ElysianWhip

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That depends. If you do go with the i5-2500k then you will definitely be set for the next while right out of the gate. IT seems, based on what you've said, this is probably better. That way you don't have to upgrade for a while. Using my build you would still be able to game and such for a while as well, but it would be a toned down version. Although if you do think you will want to upgrade to the new amd cpu's when they come out then my build is probably a good one.

Also nothing can be proved yet, but rumor has the new amd cpu's will be better if not on par with the sandy bridge models. So:

i5-2500k build now:
+Extremely strong
+Longer lasting than a 4x amd phenom II
+Current Tech
-No chance of upgrading to a new AMD processor when it releases (not too necessary)
-NO SLI SUPPORT with his build. This means you can't add in a second Nvidia card.

My AMD build:
+Will do mostly anything you throw at it
+Crossfire support Motherboard
+Crossfire support PSU

+Better starting graphics card
-CPU worse than the i5-2500k by a good bit
-will require upgrading the CPU to a new AMD model when they come out to beat/match the i5-2500k

 

jbramble

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Great points have been made. This only further confuses me lol. I wish I could just give someone my money and have them do it for me - take all the guess work and choice out of it :D

I do think I'll go with the i5 though, because we're not sure how much the new amd processors will run or when they're coming out.
 

ElysianWhip

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Yep, very true.

The i5-2500k build will be all you ever wanted. :D

 

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well wile playing wow that 50 FPS could very well drop below 30 in the big cities and raiding so if the OP plans on raiding alot I would get at least the 460 or 5770
 

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lol dude your board doesn't support SLI either :p, if the OP wants SLI he can just swap out the mobo i originally put for this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128495

[EDIT]:
just saw this GTX550Ti on offer, its a great card and for $10 more its better than the gts450 too:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121435