Gaming PC - Need opinions

[CamCam107]

Hey I am building a gaming PC to play high quality games. Here is the Build I am needing uggestions with:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1f2sV

 

[sophiebeth100]

You'll only need 8gb of ram, and with the money saved you can get a much better cooler that allows you to get an amazing overclock on your CPU. The RAM you chose interferes with the fans on the Noctua, so I change it to the low profile version. I didn't change the case, but you really won't be needing such a large one. The HAF 912 or 922 will serve you just fine.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($78.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.39 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($124.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card ($449.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master HAF X ATX Full Tower Case ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($88.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.73 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($242.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1763.01
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-10 07:49 EDT-0400)

 

[luckiest charm]

@Sophiebeth100 - Fourth Generation Intel CPUs do not overclock well already and can not hit extreme clocks. That is why the cooler you suggested is not needed for any reason. For decent overclocking which is all what Haswell supports, 212 EVO is more than enough. You can hit 4.3 - 4.5 GHz with that cooler with zero to no trouble.

@OP - It is all very good.

However you can go for ASRock Z87 Extreme4 Motherboard instead of Asus just for the sake of satisfaction.
You can also change the case as it is too expensive and is not needed for any reason here.

Rather get Fractal Design R4 Black (Its on rebate).
Also, 16 GB of RAM is not needed for Gaming. 8 GB is more than enough. 16 GB is needed for CAD, Rendering, etc.
You can also save a lot of money with PSU. XFX PSUs are manufactured by Seasonic but prices are low. Better choice here.

Here is the modified build -

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Cooling MX-2 4g Thermal Paste ($7.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.39 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($124.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card ($449.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.73 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($242.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1583.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-10 07:51 EDT-0400)

Parts I like are CPU and GPU here. You made a good choice by going for 4 GB OC Windforce variant of GTX 770. You won't need to overclock it too as it already runs at a very high frequency.

 

[kristisdbs]

Hey, i would change the video card to 7970 ghz edition vapor-x, sapphire or gigabyte,because it is cheaper and is almost the same as 770, somwhere 7970 outperforms 770, and somewhere 770 outperforms 7970. http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-111970340g . and here is the benchmark so you could see http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/829?vs=768

Also i would change cpu to a less costing i5-3570k, it is good for gamming and OC too. so it would be enough for you unless you are thinking for cpu intensive gamming
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80637i53570
and a benchmark http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/701?vs=837
You can see they are quite similiar

Your case is overpriced as i think, i would go with
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-300r
it is enough for all parts to fit and with a good ventilation.

Also you won't be needing 16gb of ram, 8gb is enough.
i would suggest other MoBo but this one is good enough

The rest looks good

 

[CamCam107]

Here is my updated build, I would go with that XFX, but I would like modular, and semi-modular is close enough IMO I kept the case because it looks cool, and as well as I already have it.


CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Cooling MX-2 4g Thermal Paste ($7.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.39 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($124.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card ($449.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master HAF X ATX Full Tower Case ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.73 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($242.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1708.00

 

[luckiest charm]

Vapor X does not perform as well as GTX 770.
HD 7970 GHz Edition is equivalent of GTX 760 according to benchmarks.

GTX 770 2 GB produces far higher frame rates -

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-770-performance-unveiled-10-faster-radeon-hd-7970-ghz/

4 GB variant is sure to cross that as the card is able to utilize higher VRAM.

Another advantage is that GTX 770 has TXAA which is Nvidia exclusive. Also it supports dual GPU configuration much better than ATI cards with minimal to zero micro sluttering.

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Core i5 4670K is around 10% faster than 3570K in all applications. Also since the socket is newer there are higher chances that 5th Generation would be using the same socket too which would eliminate the need of another motherboard in future if OP wants to upgrade.
There is no reason to buy Ivy Bridge here except overclocking privileges which get cut out by stock Haswell counterpart (Remember you can overclock Haswell to some extent too).

As with the case and RAM, I agree to you.

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@OP - All that seems to be very nice to me. No complaints whatsoever. AMD is not the way to go here (Except FX 8350 if you want 8 cores) so its a good idea to stick to Intel and Nvidia.

 

[CamCam107]

Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge with me

 

[luckiest charm]

TO EVERYONE-

Guys, he will not be running multi monitor.
so for a 1920X1080 2gb gpu is far far more than enough.
i recommend ASUS DCII OC gtx 770 2gb. And for that 24" monitor, it will perform better than the 4gb windforce

I agree but the only doubt is that current games do not utilize more than 2 GB. Future titles (PS 4 and Xbox One) may utilize.

Also it is not a bad idea to get 4 GB Variant when it costs just $45 more and is in budget.
In future he would be able to use multi monitor setup if he would wish and would also be more future proof for just an additional $45.

 

[CamCam107]

What I am going to be doing is having a 2 monitor set up, one for gaming and the other for browsing and @Luckiest charm Would it be better for win 7 or 8?

 

[CamCam107]

Single monitor for gaming, other for other things

 

[kristisdbs]

Comparison of w7 and w8

 

[kristisdbs]

Single monitor for gaming, other for other things

yes, so u yourself admitted that you will be using 1 monitor for gaming.
and that single monitor wont use 4gigs of vram.
but it will definitely use your 780gtx's 2gb for games even like crysis 30.(lol, if it gets released though)
dont think that- "WOOO I HAVE A 4GB GPU!!!! AND WILL OUTPERFORM ANYTHING!!!"
Definitely no.. it wont outperform a 780 in any way

Dude stop making him buy 780. 770 is a good card, and if will be definatelly enough for 4 years having high settings (for 2 years) and (for another 2 years).

 

[kristisdbs]

woops comparison http://usabilitygeek.com/windows-8-vs-windows-7-speed-and-performance-testing/

 

[luckiest charm]

For your information avilash, GTX 780 has a very poor price performance ratio.
The card costs $700 and is around 15% faster than GTX 770 only.

No point of going for it. If one is wishing to invest in that card, its a better idea to have two 770s in SLI for $200 more and get over 50% performance increase.

But even that is not needed here because a single GTX 770 can get you 60+ FPS Ultra on all the games except Crysis 3 which even Quad Titan SLI can't do.

Well, that is not the point, thread is solved.

Oh one more thing, Windows 7 is better, much better in my opinion. I used it for 2 years and I loved it as a general user and an avid gamer.
Windows 8 is too difficult to use and takes a lot of time to figure out what does what (Those four corners).

I am using windows 8 since last 3 months and am stuck with it because I bought it out of curiosity. I regret buying windows 8 and am totally in the favor of windows 7. Faster booting time difference is not much and can easily be resolved by a good SSD (Which is included in his build) which makes time difference negligible.

Sorry if the post was off topic, but this is my last post regarding windows choice. Any other questions and doubts are welcome.

 

[kristisdbs]

in my opinion 770 is enough, suite your self.

 

[CamCam107]

OK, Thank you all, I am gong to go with a 770

 

[luckiest charm]

OK, Thank you all, I am gong to go with a 770

Good luck mate.

 

[kristisdbs]

Yep good luck with your pc

 

[CamCam107]

thank you

 

[luckiest charm]

I meant this -

GTX 770 $400 Performance 100 = 4
GTX 780 $700 Performance 115 = 6.08

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See the difference?

To be able to successfully outperform GTX 770 in price performance test, GTX 780 has to be 75% faster than GTX 770.

 

[luckiest charm]

I am very sorry I am not good enough in Cartesian Geometry (If that is referred here).
To be honest I have never heard the formula.

Was just trying to give simple price performance ratio while considering average benchmark scores. My apologies if that got wrong.

 

[CamCam107]

Avilash I would agree with luckiet charm on this

 

[CamCam107]

I was not speaking of the geometry