Gaming Pc question

[judewilliams22]

Hi is a £1800 gaming computer worth it and if yes are these suitable parts for that amount of money and will they provide good performance at mid to high graphics bearing in mind I'm playing games such as space engineers and rust.

Case
NZXT PHANTOM 410 WHITE GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i7 Six Core Processor i7-8700k (3.7GHz) 12MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING: ATX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2666MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1080 - DVI, HDMI, 3x DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1st Hard Disk
NOT REQUIRED
2nd Hard Disk
3TB SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
M.2 SSD Drive
250GB WD Blue™ 3D NAND M.2 SSD (up to 550MB/sR | 525MB/sW)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100i V2 Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc DVD & Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Office Software
NO OFFICE SOFTWARE
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 7 to 9 working days

Also will they run smoothly together and stay cool. Does it provide enough cooling to the processor etc.

 

[n0ns3ns3]

that's a computer that will do gaming on high settings with monitor up to 3440x1440.
I don't recommend to use AiOs as most decent air coolers (which are much cheaper and much more reliable) do the same or even better job at lower noise.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

so it's obviously a custom build!? For the money, okay yes your getting good parts, but your paying a massive margin. Prob about 30% too much. For some that 30% is worth not having to put the unit together themselves.

With all of that said, you could get a similar performing PC for much less cost, but using a Ryzen system. To play those games you've mentioned the system you've chosen is massive overkill unless your gaming on really high res (like 4k)

 

[judewilliams22]

so it's obviously a custom build!? For the money, okay yes your getting good parts, but your paying a massive margin. Prob about 30% too much. For some that 30% is worth not having to put the unit together themselves.

With all of that said, you could get a similar performing PC for much less cost, but using a Ryzen system. To play those games you've mentioned the system you've chosen is massive overkill unless your gaming on really high res (like 4k)

hi thanks ill look into ryzen parts more but i don't want to physically build it myself as this is my first ever gaming pc and I'm unskilled so i prefer someone to do it for me

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

you can look here for cheaper alternatives, but near identical gaming performance :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($198.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($56.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($194.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($139.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.68 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card ($589.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Blue) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1437.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-09 17:24 EST-0500

Or:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($249.95 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.90 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370 AORUS Gaming 5 (rev. 1.0) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.68 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card ($589.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Blue) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1536.16

see if you can configure something like this on the Custom Builder you are using

Good luck.

 

[superninja12]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from judewilliams22 : "Gaming Pc Question AMD"

Hi can someone create me a suitable build on Pc Specialist. I have a budget of £1800. Ive been looking into intel computer parts but have been recommend to look into AMD aswell so can someone create a good pc. Once going onto the website could you look at AMD RYZEN EXTREME COMPUTERS and design a custom pc for me. I'm playing games such as rust and space engineers thanks. Heres the link:
https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/amd-computers/

If only gaming, coffee lake I5/I7 is better
Do you stream?
You don't need 1800 to play those two, ideal resolution and settings?
I strongly suggest build your own, prebuilts like this will over charge and may not have best quality

If only gaming, coffee lake I5/I7 is better
Do you stream?
You don't need 1800 to play those two, ideal resolution and settings?
I strongly suggest build your own, prebuilts like this will over charge and may not have best quality

I'm not prebuilding one I'm designing my own on that website and no i don't stream

amd 1600
2x8gb 300mhz
b350 motherboard or x370
650 tx psu

the rest is your choice

 

[4745454b]

Lets stick to this thread for your build ok? Keith was nice enough to post an AMD and an Intel build. Work off of those.

Edit: I'm going to remove the best answer (BA) seeing as you still have questions because you are opening new threads. Please select a BA when you are done. It can even be the one you picked. I'm not trying to punish the person who got it. Just trying to leave the question open so people reply.

 

[vapour]

Above is wrong currency, add the gsync 1440p 144hz monitor later for Intel Route:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor (£233.24 @ AWD-IT)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£39.46 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£147.97 @ More Computers)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£187.40 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£74.89 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£49.96 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card (£507.22 @ PC World Business)
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£73.52 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: XFX - XTR 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£80.45 @ YoYoTech)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£85.62 @ Aria PC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter (£26.32 @ CCL Computers)
Monitor: Acer - Predator XB271HUA 27.0" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor (£499.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £2006.04
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-23 15:13 GMT+0000

Ryzen route:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (£151.14 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard (£75.44 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£198.58 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£74.89 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£36.59 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card (£507.22 @ PC World Business)
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£73.52 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: XFX - XTR 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£80.45 @ YoYoTech)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£85.62 @ Aria PC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter (£26.32 @ CCL Computers)
Monitor: Acer - Predator XB271HUA 27.0" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor (£499.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1809.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-23 15:16 GMT+0000

8600k may give you better frames in some games for 1440p but both can do ~100 FPS @ 1440p gaming in most games.

 

[4745454b]

Good catch. Your Intel build is a bit overbudget if he's limited to £1800. Might need to drop down to an 8400 and 1070. Or keep those and get a cheaper monitor.

 

[vapour]

Good catch. Your Intel build is a bit overbudget if he's limited to £1800. Might need to drop down to an 8400 and 1070. Or keep those and get a cheaper monitor.

Yep, so I said add the monitor later assuming he has one for now

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Above is wrong currency, add the gsync 1440p 144hz monitor later for Intel Route:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor (£233.24 @ AWD-IT)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£39.46 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£147.97 @ More Computers)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£187.40 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£74.89 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£49.96 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card (£507.22 @ PC World Business)
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£73.52 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: XFX - XTR 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£80.45 @ YoYoTech)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£85.62 @ Aria PC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter (£26.32 @ CCL Computers)
Monitor: Acer - Predator XB271HUA 27.0" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor (£499.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £2006.04
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-23 15:13 GMT+0000

Ryzen route:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (£151.14 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard (£75.44 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£198.58 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£74.89 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£36.59 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card (£507.22 @ PC World Business)
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£73.52 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: XFX - XTR 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£80.45 @ YoYoTech)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£85.62 @ Aria PC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter (£26.32 @ CCL Computers)
Monitor: Acer - Predator XB271HUA 27.0" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor (£499.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1809.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-23 15:16 GMT+0000

8600k may give you better frames in some games for 1440p but both can do ~100 FPS @ 1440p gaming in most games.

funnily enough Vapour, if I remember correctly the build info was from your own suggested build in a post a few weeks ago. I didn't update it because, the OP was choosing from a UK based Custom builder, and I wasn't going to go doing all the donkey work, and match part to the custom builder

Good job on both!

 

[judewilliams22]

Lets stick to this thread for your build ok? Keith was nice enough to post an AMD and an Intel build. Work off of those.

Edit: I'm going to remove the best answer (BA) seeing as you still have questions because you are opening new threads. Please select a BA when you are done. It can even be the one you picked. I'm not trying to punish the person who got it. Just trying to leave the question open so people reply.

i want to stick mainly to my build i listed
which was recommended by WILDCARD on toms hardware but most importantly i want to stick with intel processors and nvidia graphics cards but i don't know much about fans

 

[Wisecracker]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from judewilliams22 : "Gaming PC question"

Hi i have somewhat of an understanding of storage HDD and SSD but i am getting a gaming desktop with 3TB of storage and 250GB if SSD. The person who recommended me this particular build said i should have the SSD as a main storage device and a 3TB as a secondary storage device. Will this work and if yes what do i save to what?

Yes, that is the best way to utilize the SSD/HDD. When you need to install a pgm, one of the installation screens will show where the pgm is going to be saved at. usually C:/Program Files or C:/Program file (86). If you'd rather save it to the HDD instead, simply use the interface to browse to the destination you want on the HDD.

Windows will make the pgm accessible to you and the system just like it would if you chose the default C:/Programs. For instance, I usually make a folder on my HDD named Steam (D:/Steam). I install Steam in that folder and all its games automatically go there.

Hi i have somewhat of an understanding of storage HDD and SSD but i am getting a gaming desktop with 3TB of storage and 250GB if SSD. The person who recommended me this particular build said i should have the SSD as a main storage device and a 3TB as a secondary storage device. Will this work and if yes what do i save to what?

It will.

First up I would install ONLY the SSD and your installation media. Enter your BIOS when you power on by spamming delete(usually or F1). Once you are there set the installation media as the first boot and the SSD as the second.Get Windows installed and updated. After that's done shut down the PC and install the 3TB drive. Enter BIOS again and set your SSD as the first boot device. I disable all others.

Within the browser you have a settings button. Within the settings you can change where the downloads are saved to. With gaming clients and many other programs it will as mentioned above ask you where you want it installed. Some will ask you where you want the installer and where you want the game installed. Pretty straightforward. Some games will benefit from an SSD and others won't. It can significantly quicken times between "levels". It doesn't help FPS even a millionth of a FPS.

+1^
Good point about installing Win with just the SSD's SATA cable connected. But if you are buying a pre-built PC with Win already installed, that won't be an issue for you.

Place favorite games on the SSD -- number depends on the size of the games (well, duh :lol Remaining games are off to the HDD (Steam will allow you to designate a Default drive for game installations).

I highly recommend multiple 'blind' partitions on your HDD. Around 45gb will handle a standard, clean Win OS installation with basic programs. Label a partition on the HDD 'OS_Recovery' and backup your fancy new Windows installation to it.

 

[4745454b]

i want to stick mainly to my build i listed
which was recommended by WILDCARD on toms hardware but most importantly i want to stick with intel processors and nvidia graphics cards but i don't know much about fans

Not sure why you mentioned this. You have threads all over the place, is Wildcards build in the first post? You said you don't know about fans. Are you talking about case fans or CPU coolers?

 

[judewilliams22]

i want to stick mainly to my build i listed
which was recommended by WILDCARD on toms hardware but most importantly i want to stick with intel processors and nvidia graphics cards but i don't know much about fans

Not sure why you mentioned this. You have threads all over the place, is Wildcards build in the first post? You said you don't know about fans. Are you talking about case fans or CPU coolers?

i don't know i guess both? i know about cpus gpus etc but its just the fans do i need a cpu cooler and case fans?

 

[Hellfire13]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from judewilliams22 : "Overall Gaming Computer Review"

Hi i need someone to review if these parts of a gaming pc will A: Work together and B: Provide a good performance at at least mid graphics quality and high fps.
Parts:

GPU
NVIDIA GeForce gtx 1080

CPU
Intel core i7 8700k or 7700k

CASE
NZXT PHANTOM 410 WHITE GAMING CASE

MOTHERBOARD
Asus rog strix z370-e gaming ATX, lga1151, usb 3.1, sata 6 gb - rgb ready

3TB HDD
250GB SSD

Those are the main parts but feel free to ask for more info on other parts as i have them all. Baring in mind i have a set budget of £1800 (UK Currency) could someone recommend me a good Processor Cooler if possible aswell thanks.

If you have not bought the parts yet, this will be pretty good...
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor (£323.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - R1 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£69.90 @ Box Limited)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£191.90 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£177.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£129.57 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£49.96 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card (£525.44 @ Novatech)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case (£99.60 @ Box Limited)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£81.09 @ Box Limited)
Total: £1649.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-30 20:35 GMT+0000

If you have not bought the parts yet, this will be pretty good...
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor (£323.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - R1 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£69.90 @ Box Limited)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£191.90 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£177.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£129.57 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£49.96 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card (£525.44 @ Novatech)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case (£99.60 @ Box Limited)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£81.09 @ Box Limited)
Total: £1649.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-30 20:35 GMT+0000

thanks for that but I'm looking for a review on this pc build i listed not another pc build

Well, you asked for recommendations, so i assumed you are about to purchase.
Anyways, go for the 8700k instead of the 7700k. It will perform better and last you way longer than the 7700k.
You can go for the cooler I have listed in the above build. Its pretty good for overclocking, even to higher end clocks.
Rest looks all good.
Whats the PSU you got???

Well, you asked for recommendations, so i assumed you are about to purchase.
Anyways, go for the 8700k instead of the 7700k. It will perform better and last you way longer than the 7700k.
You can go for the cooler I have listed in the above build. Its pretty good for overclocking, even to higher end clocks.
Rest looks all good.
Whats the PSU you got???

ok so ill go for the 8700k cpu my psu is corsair 650w txm series semi modular 80 plus gold ultra quiet

Thats a good unit. You should be fine. Cheers...

 

[judewilliams22]

Lets stick to this thread for your build ok? Keith was nice enough to post an AMD and an Intel build. Work off of those.

Edit: I'm going to remove the best answer (BA) seeing as you still have questions because you are opening new threads. Please select a BA when you are done. It can even be the one you picked. I'm not trying to punish the person who got it. Just trying to leave the question open so people reply.

ok i understand it now