Gaming Pc questions #2

[Danger_123]

So i've finally decided what i'm going to use for my Gaming pc.Please help me and tell me if everything is compatible and that if i'll be able to play next gen games on atleast Medium settings.

The specs are as follows :
1. Cpu : Intel core i5 2400.
2. Gpu : Sapphire r9 270x.
3. Motherboard : Asus H61M-K LGA 1155.
4. Ram : Corsair Vengence Ddr4 8gb.
5. HDD : 500 GB.
6. OS : Windows 7 home premium 64-bit
7. Casing and disk drive : Any.

Thanks for helping again! :lol:

 

[dexxterlab97]

Why i5 2400. That cpu is old.

 

[Whiplash450]

Motherboard is DDR3 ONLY, your selected RAM is DDR4.

Other than that the CPU socket fits the motherboard, so the rest looks OK.

Should be a good mid-range system, just make sure you have a power supply large enough to match the GPU (which needs about +200W), so you'll need a 500W PSU I would say.

 

[Danger_123]

Motherboard is DDR3 ONLY, your selected RAM is DDR4.

Other than that the CPU socket fits the motherboard, so the rest looks OK.

Should be a good mid-range system, just make sure you have a power supply large enough to match the GPU (which needs about +200W), so you'll need a 500W PSU I would say.

So, you mean to say that i'll have to change my ram, but i've heard that ddr3 ram makes games slow. What do i do?

 

[Whiplash450]

Motherboard is DDR3 ONLY, your selected RAM is DDR4.

Other than that the CPU socket fits the motherboard, so the rest looks OK.

Should be a good mid-range system, just make sure you have a power supply large enough to match the GPU (which needs about +200W), so you'll need a 500W PSU I would say.

So, you mean to say that i'll have to change my ram, but i've heard that ddr3 ram makes games slow. What do i do?

Yes you'll have to either:

A. Choose another motherboard
or,
B. Choose some DDR3 RAM.

DDR3 doesn't 'make games slow..'. If you actually do some research into RAM the FPS increases from using DDR4 over DDR3, work out at about 2% better when using DDR4.

So either spend the $$ on a more modern motherboard that supports DDR4 and give your system some 'future proofing', or save the cash and just get DDR3.

 

[jldinbama]

I'm not really sure why you're going with a Sandy Bridge CPU and LGA 1155. You may be getting it used, but those components are old enough that the cost is artificially high (it's a replacement part no longer in manufacture). Sandy Bridge CPUs are still solid, but they are finally old enough that they lag behind modern parts (it's a 5 year old processor).

Purchased new, it should be no more expensive (and quite possibly cheaper) to get an Intel i5-6600 and an H110 motherboard. Note that these actually would require DDR4 ram.

On a similar vein, the new Radeon RX 480 (at $200) is faster than the 290x. I don't know if you were buying used or what, but the 290x is also fairly old now.

It would really helpful if you would give us a budget for the system or prices for each part if you want us to go into further detail.

 

[Danger_123]

Motherboard is DDR3 ONLY, your selected RAM is DDR4.

Other than that the CPU socket fits the motherboard, so the rest looks OK.

Should be a good mid-range system, just make sure you have a power supply large enough to match the GPU (which needs about +200W), so you'll need a 500W PSU I would say.

So, you mean to say that i'll have to change my ram, but i've heard that ddr3 ram makes games slow. What do i do?

Yes you'll have to either:

A. Choose another motherboard
or,
B. Choose some DDR3 RAM.

DDR3 doesn't 'make games slow..'. If you actually do some research into RAM the FPS increases from using DDR4 over DDR3, work out at about 2% better when using DDR4.

So either spend the $$ on a more modern motherboard that supports DDR4 and give your system some 'future proofing', or save the cash and just get DDR3.

Thanks bro, I think i'll go with a better motherboard than using a ddr3 ram.

 

[jldinbama]

Motherboard is DDR3 ONLY, your selected RAM is DDR4.

Other than that the CPU socket fits the motherboard, so the rest looks OK.

Should be a good mid-range system, just make sure you have a power supply large enough to match the GPU (which needs about +200W), so you'll need a 500W PSU I would say.

So, you mean to say that i'll have to change my ram, but i've heard that ddr3 ram makes games slow. What do i do?

Yes you'll have to either:

A. Choose another motherboard
or,
B. Choose some DDR3 RAM.

DDR3 doesn't 'make games slow..'. If you actually do some research into RAM the FPS increases from using DDR4 over DDR3, work out at about 2% better when using DDR4.

So either spend the $$ on a more modern motherboard that supports DDR4 and give your system some 'future proofing', or save the cash and just get DDR3.

Thanks bro, I think i'll go with a better motherboard than using a ddr3 ram.

If you get a motherboard that supports DDR4, be warned that it won't be compatible with the i5 2400.

 

[Danger_123]

I'm not really sure why you're going with a Sandy Bridge CPU and LGA 1155. You may be getting it used, but those components are old enough that the cost is artificially high (it's a replacement part no longer in manufacture). Sandy Bridge CPUs are still solid, but they are finally old enough that they lag behind modern parts (it's a 5 year old processor).

Purchased new, it should be no more expensive (and quite possibly cheaper) to get an Intel i5-6600 and an H110 motherboard. Note that these actually would require DDR4 ram.

On a similar vein, the new Radeon RX 480 (at $200) is faster than the 290x. I don't know if you were buying used or what, but the 290x is also fairly old now.

It would really helpful if you would give us a budget for the system or prices for each part if you want us to go into further detail.

Thanks for the help and i would obviously show the bugdet but i'm afraid its not in $, So anyways if you convert it in dollars you probably get 450 $, I know thats not much but its a start.

 

[Whiplash450]

Motherboard is DDR3 ONLY, your selected RAM is DDR4.

Other than that the CPU socket fits the motherboard, so the rest looks OK.

Should be a good mid-range system, just make sure you have a power supply large enough to match the GPU (which needs about +200W), so you'll need a 500W PSU I would say.

So, you mean to say that i'll have to change my ram, but i've heard that ddr3 ram makes games slow. What do i do?

Yes you'll have to either:

A. Choose another motherboard
or,
B. Choose some DDR3 RAM.

DDR3 doesn't 'make games slow..'. If you actually do some research into RAM the FPS increases from using DDR4 over DDR3, work out at about 2% better when using DDR4.

So either spend the $$ on a more modern motherboard that supports DDR4 and give your system some 'future proofing', or save the cash and just get DDR3.

Thanks bro, I think i'll go with a better motherboard than using a ddr3 ram.

If you get a motherboard that supports DDR4, be warned that it won't be compatible with the i5 2400.

Good catch!!

******This is **CRITICAL** with that CPU - (i5 2400) only supports - DDR3-1066, DDR3-1333. *******

So if you get a DDR4 motherboard it won't work!!


Maybe time for a re-think? There's often not much saving to be made buying 2nd hand/older PC parts.

 

[jldinbama]

I'm not really sure why you're going with a Sandy Bridge CPU and LGA 1155. You may be getting it used, but those components are old enough that the cost is artificially high (it's a replacement part no longer in manufacture). Sandy Bridge CPUs are still solid, but they are finally old enough that they lag behind modern parts (it's a 5 year old processor).

Purchased new, it should be no more expensive (and quite possibly cheaper) to get an Intel i5-6600 and an H110 motherboard. Note that these actually would require DDR4 ram.

On a similar vein, the new Radeon RX 480 (at $200) is faster than the 290x. I don't know if you were buying used or what, but the 290x is also fairly old now.

It would really helpful if you would give us a budget for the system or prices for each part if you want us to go into further detail.

Thanks for the help and i would obviously show the bugdet but i'm afraid its not in $, So anyways if you convert it in dollars you probably get 450 $, I know thats not much but its a start.

$450 US, including windows, is a very tough budget. You might do well getting used parts as you seemed to be doing, but I wouldn't fret about getting a better Mobo. DDR3 is still often faster than DDR4 at the same price anyway (and the difference really is incredibly minor).

Regardless, I took a quick crack at a new-parts build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($110.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($45.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($28.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($88.91 @ OutletPC)
Total: $392.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-17 12:20 EDT-0400

Add in a Radeon RX 460 ($140, not yet listed on parts picker), and you're at $550 (including windows)

 

[jldinbama]

Just as an FYI, I don't normally recommend used PC parts. All microprocessors physically and chemically wear out over time. Any savings you make in used parts tends to be offset by getting parts that are likely to wear out or break fairly quickly, usually with no warranty. And that's before you get to the fact that driver and software support is usually more limited. In the end, used parts often aren't really a very good deal.

If you absolutely have to stay under a budget, I understand buying used. But I usually recommend new parts if you can possibly afford it.

 

[Danger_123]

Just as an FYI, I don't normally recommend used PC parts. All microprocessors physically and chemically wear out over time. Any savings you make in used parts tends to be offset by getting parts that are likely to wear out or break fairly quickly, usually with no warranty. And that's before you get to the fact that driver and software support is usually more limited. In the end, used parts often aren't really a very good deal.

If you absolutely have to stay under a budget, I understand buying used. But I usually recommend new parts if you can possibly afford it.

I absolutely love gaming and would buy the latest parts but My bugdet cannot be increased.
And here, the prices of the processors and gpus are really expensive but other things like the psu, casings, motherboards and stuff are not as much expensive, Even the windows 7 64-bit is 40-50 $.
And just tell me what parts should i necessarily buy new and the others then i will buy used that will help me alot!

 

[jldinbama]

Just as an FYI, I don't normally recommend used PC parts. All microprocessors physically and chemically wear out over time. Any savings you make in used parts tends to be offset by getting parts that are likely to wear out or break fairly quickly, usually with no warranty. And that's before you get to the fact that driver and software support is usually more limited. In the end, used parts often aren't really a very good deal.

If you absolutely have to stay under a budget, I understand buying used. But I usually recommend new parts if you can possibly afford it.

I absolutely love gaming and would buy the latest parts but My bugdet cannot be increased.
And here, the prices of the processors and gpus are really expensive but other things like the psu, casings, motherboards and stuff are not as much expensive, Even the windows 7 64-bit is 40-50 $.
And just tell me what parts should i necessarily buy new and the others then i will buy used that will help me alot!

I would not buy a used hard drive or power supply. Both tend to wear out over time, and you really don't want either of them failing unexpectedly (a bad power supply can fry your whole system).

Going back to the above, your original list really is fine for your budget, you just need to get DDR3 ram. The change from DDR3 to DDR4, for your purposes, has way more to do with a change in the socket/shape than a change in speed. The new socket allows for them to make some higher end DDR4 that's faster, but you really can't afford that RAM anyway.

As for GPUs, the best budget card right now probably is the Radeon RX 460, which just released. Since the graphics card is far and away the biggest impact on gaming, you should give it a strong look.

Sorry I can't be more help, but all I have access to is US pricing, so I can't really figure out your exact budget.