Gaming rig £600-£800 GBP help

[DipMaster]

Ok so I have a rig atm with an i5 4460 and a gtx 750ti, pretty standard low-mid end build but its just not cutting it for me, mouse lag and stuttering and just generally bad frames on a lot of games, I'm thinking of giving it to my kids for their bedroom and building my own rig, I already have a decent case being as I'm trying to keep the costs as low as possible and trying to get as much value for money as possible meaning id prefer something cheap, if its not going to be a massive dip in performance, but id rather pay a bit more if it is really worth the extra money by some noticeable difference. I have a zalman z9 case, and pretty much everything else in my build is mediocre, 530w psu, GA-H81M mobo, 1333 corsair ram (although i do have a 1600 8gb card from this prebuilt i baught that doesnt look much good no casing or anything).

TLDR; just need some advice on good deals/conponents right now for a gaming rig to game at full 1080p flawlessly in atleast mid settings, GPU wise im interested in something in the gtx 970/r290x range

 

[DipMaster]

I also have a z68-d3-b3 mobo, this could also be used instead of the GA-h81M, I also have an i5-4460 that as I understand wont work in the z68, so if the ga-h81m isnt sufficient for a good gaming rig, then please suggest a mobo that can accommodate my i5 4460 to save costs.

edit: thought this might be useful information, I'm only going to be using a 19.5" monitor at 1080p, no 4k res or anything like that lol

 

[logainofhades]

Your CPU is still fine, your GPU is what is holding you back, gaming wise. Buy a compatible chip, for that Z68 board, and give your kids that, with the 750ti. Then get yourself a better PSU and GPU. If you are having mouse stuttering, outside of games, you have other issues that are not due to the hardware's capability.

 

[DipMaster]

well the pc I am giving to the kids wont have the 750ti in, my kids are very young and really would only watch videos on it they spend hours watching the nursery rhymes and kids shows on youtube, so I was going to sell the 750 and just get a cheap CPU for it and keep the 4460 to save myself some money

 

[DipMaster]

and no, the mouse stuttering is only in games its perfect on desktop

 

[logainofhades]

Your system really only needs GPU and PSU. With your budget, though, you could build a pretty solid rig, from scratch, and just give your kids your current i5 system.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£197.77 @ More Computers)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£57.77 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£43.63 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£37.80 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB SSC ACX 2.0 Video Card (£286.79 @ Aria PC)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H21 ATX Mid Tower Case (£27.56 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£70.01 @ Ebuyer)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£10.06 @ CCL Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 OEM (64-bit) (£67.95 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £799.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-12 16:02 BST+0100

 

[DipMaster]

well its kinda like, I was willing to spend 600-800 but I assumed I'd need a new mobo and better ram, honestly id rather save as much as poss where I can, so the h81m mobo is ok to run with a gtx 970 or a r290x?

 

[logainofhades]

Yea the board is ok for that. You could always still sell the GTX 750ti and the Z68 board, though.

 

[DipMaster]

well yeah that's what I'm thinking, selling the z68 and the 750ti to make some money back on the new psu and gpu, so with my mobo, a card like r290x (8gb version) or the gtx970, 8gb ddr3 and a new psu I should be running new games on mid at 60fps flawlessly?

 

[logainofhades]

Most games, at 1080p, you should be able to do high to ultra. You do not need the 8gb version, of the 290x. That is really only useful for 4k gaming.

 

[DipMaster]

the only problem I have is that, I'll be running the exact same system except for the new gpu and psu, currently I cant even run games at lowest settings flawlessly at 60fps at 1080p with the 750 ti 2gb, i was under the influence that the 750ti would easily play most games at low-med flawlessly? is it possible something else is bottlenecking my system or do you think its just the 750 thats the problem?

 

[DipMaster]

I just want to be sure that if I spend this much money on a GPU and PSU that it will solve the problem and give me the gaming experience I've been looking for

 

[logainofhades]

Some newer titles are quite brutal. That said, you might be having temp problems, or a malware issue.

 

[DipMaster]

I've already looked into how to find out temps etc my temps are all actually quite good as i recently cleaned out the dust and crap from inside not sure about malware though, my pc was formatted completely 2 months ago haven't downloaded much, do you know much about graphics cards my friend?

 

[DipMaster]

any ideas? dont really wanna spend more than £300 on a gpu

 

[DipMaster]

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-147-GI&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=1010

if you had £300 for a gpu would you buy this or would you go with a different card or a different deal & why if you dont mind please, thanks again

 

[logainofhades]

I don't really trust Gigabyte's graphics card's quality. I would chose the MSI Twin Frozr, GTX 970. It is a great card, and one of the coolest running ones as well. I would still download and run malwarebytes, to check for stuff.

 

[DipMaster]

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/4gb-msi-gtx-970-gaming-4g-twin-frozr-5-7010mhz-gddr5-gpu-1140mhz-boost-1279mhz-1664-cores-dp-dvi-hdm

good deal? also if you dont mind would you be able to look for a suitable psu for my rig (cheap as possible and preferably from the same place as gpu so they arrive at the same time) thanks again mate

 

[DipMaster]

think im gonna get one of those corsair builder series, would a 600w be ok?

 

[logainofhades]

Those are not very good. This is a good PSU, for the money.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£62.48 @ Novatech)
Total: £62.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-12 20:14 BST+0100

If you absolutely do not need a modular PSU, this one would be fine as well.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£46.40 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £46.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-12 20:23 BST+0100

You can get a better deal, on that card as well.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card (£269.99 @ Aria PC)
Total: £269.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-12 20:24 BST+0100