Gaming/Streaming Pc Build

[tomkis90]

So im building a somewhat new system and I want your opinion on it.
CPU: Intel i7 4790k
CPU Cooler: Corsair H75 or H80i (Havent made my mind on this yet)
GPU: Msi R9 270 (Reusing it from another build)
Mobo: Msi z97 gami g 5
Case: Corsair 230t
PSU: Corsair cs750m or the 600w version, (not sure about how much watts will i need.)
Ram: 8gb of Kingston 1600mghz
Going to use this for video rendering, gaming and streaming.
Will this do the job well?

 

[ksham]

Should be fine. Just a bit of warning - the power supply doesn't handle high load well so you will get some ripples. But your build should not put it at that point. But if you ever upgrade your GPU, just keep that in mind.

 

[tomkis90]

Should be fine. Just a bit of warning - the power supply doesn't handle high load well so you will get some ripples. But your build should not put it at that point. But if you ever upgrade your GPU, just keep that in mind.

I have some extra buck i can spend on a psu, do you have any suggestions?

 

[Deleted member 1300495]

I would get 16 GBs of RAM as video editing takes a lot of RAM. Also, you may want to change that PSU into something from Seasonic as they have the best PSUs. And, Corsair doesn't even make those PSUs, which means they are pretty low quality and makes them cheap:http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-oem-manufacturer,2913-5.html

 

[ksham]

What country do you live in? Where can you buy computer components from? Got links? And what is your budget on a PSU?

 

[tomkis90]

Mamamia13 - got that. Thank you.
Ksham - atm im in sweden but i live in lithuania, using this website for pc parts ( https://www.komplett.se/k/kd.aspx?bn=10000 ) have about a 1000 swedish kroner to spend.

 

[ksham]

XFX ProSeries Core Edition 650W

A bit more than you need but the 550W didn't support Haswell (at least not according to XFX). It will still work, but you will not get the CL6/CL7 states.

 

[tomkis90]

XFX ProSeries Core Edition 650W

A bit more than you need but the 550W didn't support Haswell (at least not according to XFX). It will still work, but you will not get the CL6/CL7 states.

What about Xfx proseries xxx edition 750w psu? It has more power and it costs 925. Planning on upgrading the gpu to r9 280x or something like that so 650w doesnt really give me alot of head room for overclocking and everything.

 

[ksham]

650W is plenty for one R9 280X. Even a R9 290X will be fine. You'll have plenty of overclocking room. You only run into issues if you CrossFireX them. But 750W would be very borderline (too close for comfort) if you do that and would leave no overclocking room. So it's really not any better than 650W in that sense. Unless you go up to 800W for that CrossFireX support.

 

[tomkis90]

Got it thank you.
And also is it really worth going i7 4790k? Maybe i should just go with an fx 8350? (Would oc both)

 

[ksham]

For gaming / streaming, you see no benefit in the i7-4790K. An i5-4690K is just as good. Most games only use up two cores and very few use more than that, namely Crysis 3, Battlefield 4, Watch Dogs. So having more cores won't help you. That is why dual cores are still competitive in gaming.

The FX-8350, I don't recommend because while it has more cores than the i7 or i5, each individual core is weaker. And since most games only use up a few cores, the stronger each core is, the better the performance. So what good is having the extra cores if they're just sitting around doing nothing? Also, AMD hasn't done much with their FX line and that socket is pretty much dead right now. Stick with Intel. You have a much better upgrade path and the LGA 1150 motherboard will be fine up to even the new-gen Broadwell CPUs should you upgrade later.

 

[tomkis90]

For gaming / streaming, you see no benefit in the i7-4790K. An i5-4690K is just as good. Most games only use up two cores and very few use more than that, namely Crysis 3, Battlefield 4, Watch Dogs. So having more cores won't help you. That is why dual cores are still competitive in gaming.

The FX-8350, I don't recommend because while it has more cores than the i7 or i5, each individual core is weaker. And since most games only use up a few cores, the stronger each core is, the better the performance. So what good is having the extra cores if they're just sitting around doing nothing? Also, AMD hasn't done much with their FX line and that socket is pretty much dead right now. Stick with Intel. You have a much better upgrade path and the LGA 1150 motherboard will be fine up to even the new-gen Broadwell CPUs should you upgrade later.

But the i7 will be better in a long run while the i5 would "get old" faster? Or am i wrong? I have about a 9k swedish kronor budget and my priority is the Cpu because i have an athlon x4 740 and thats not nice for streaming and its bottlenecking my gpu (gpu usage doesnt go higher than 68%-70%) also have a 600w psu but i dont even know who made it (cant find the info on that) so i want to change it or else will have to power the i7 with a 4pin connector because it has no 4 + 4 or 8 pin connectors, that makes oc impossible.

 

[ksham]

CPUs do not get old. The i7 is not any more powerful than the i5. It just has hyper-threading technology. By the time the i5 is old and you need to replace it, the i7 won't hold up any better than the i5. Technology moves fast and things change. And CPU / motherboard sockets change all the time. If you're not going to use the i7's capability now when you buy it, you're not going to use it later.

 

[tomkis90]

CPUs do not get old. The i7 is not any more powerful than the i5. It just has hyper-threading technology. By the time the i5 is old and you need to replace it, the i7 won't hold up any better than the i5. Technology moves fast and things change. And CPU / motherboard sockets change all the time. If you're not going to use the i7's capability now when you buy it, you're not going to use it later.

Hyper threading sounds like a really usefull thingy for streaming and video rendering, but i'll take a look into the i5 if i get some budget problems.
Thank you for the help

 

[ksham]

Not a big gain unless you are working with heavy video editing. For light video editing, the i5 is fine. CPUs nowadays are already very fast. You probably only get about 15% improved performance with HT overall.