Okay, you asked for it. You want proof that you're a liar, you've got it.
"It's more advance than Linux (Linux is based on Unix)
and it's more advance than WinNT (NT is based on Windows)"
Two lies right there. Newer does not mean more advanced. BeOS has crap for networking and very little driver support. So right there, you started this whole topic with lies.
">It has crap for hardware support. It has crap for software titles.
It's not"
It does too have a complete lack of software titles. And the ones that it does have are stripped-down pieces of garbage that hardly have near the functionality that Windows, Linux, and even Macintosh software have. It doesn't support NVIDIA video cards. It doesn't support a large number of cheap audio cards. It doesn't support ANY old hardware such as a Creative Labs AWE32. It has crap for hardware support and for software titles.
"Linux is better than Window in server, but not in home/office user.
Linux is better than BeOS in Server, but not in home/office user.
BeOS is better than Linux/Window in home/office user."
Linux and Windows 2000 are perfectly tied for server use. They're both darn good products. BeOS is absolutely NO FASTER than Linux or Windows when running on a single-cpu system. Since only an extreme minority of home or office users have dual CPU systems, this makes BeOS in NO WAY better. And add on to that the fact that there isn't even proof that BeOS even IS any better at running multiple CPU systems. And, if you account for the fact that BeOS doesn't have any real games, that means that it isn't good for many home users at all. Gaming is a large portion of home PC use.
"I wonder why you hate BeOS so much without ever trying it."
Yet another collection of lies. First off, I don't hate BeOS. I just find it severely underwhelming. Second off, I did try using it, and it couldn't even support my hardware, so I quickly got rid of it.
"pitty you.
used by MS
tricked by MS
money gone to MS for nothing
brain wash by MS
pitty you."
Another collection of lies. MS has never yet tricked me nor used me. I however use MS. That doesn't make me some sort of MS pawn. It just means that the software I NEED runs on the Windows OS. The money I have spent on MS products has been well spent as with MS products I get to use ALL of my hardware. I get to use any software that I need. And I get to write software that I know other people will actually be able to use. If anyone here is brainwashed, it's you. You seem to think that MS is somehow evil incarnate and that Windows is completely useless. I pity you.
"It seems a bit imposible right now because nVidia has been laid by MS."
Yet another lie! They are simply supporting the OS that has the MOST USERS! They support Linux too. Linux isn't MS. So it's dreadfully obvious how much of a lie your statement is.
"BeOS even more user friendly than MacOS."
Yet another lie. The ONLY thing that the Macintosh has over any other computer is that their OS is so annoyingly easy to use.
"BeOS/Linux beat Win9x/WinNT"
Yet more lies from you. This obviously your personal opinion because it has absolutely no fact to back it up.
"Liar...
When I first post in THG about dual motherboard.
I wrote that I want THG to test dual processor mobo with several OS.
And please compare it with: NT4/2000, Linux kernel 2.3/2.4 (more is better), BeOS R4.5/R5.
I want to know which OS is better in Dual processor env.
I have read a lot about this, but never read it from hardware reviewer that I trust the most
(THG).
When I post for THG to benchmark with those OS,
you then discredit BeOS.
You wrote that THG shouldn't use/try BeOS because nobody use it, it's crap, not supporting your hardware, and not supporting your software. Now you want to tell the other way around??? LIAR"
Yet more lies from you. I never did discredit BeOS. I merely pointed out the FACTS. The FACTS are that BeOS does NOT support enough hardware AND it does NOT have enough software titles. And that the BeOS API while sounding better, is actually in no way better than the Windows API because to truely multi-thread an application you still have to do it all manually under BOTH OSs. The ONLY difference between BeOS and Windows is that the software written for BeOS is all written as fully multi-threaded. And that, obviously, isn't even an OS difference. It's a software product difference!
"See what I mean....
You always over react when I posted about BeOS."
Yet another lie. You obviously don't know the definition of over-react because I didn't. I only gave FACTS that prove thatBeOS isn't the best OS ever.
"Linux is more free than BeOS.
Your post here has no point.
Another FUD by slvr_phoenix the liar man."
Again you lie. Because first, I didn't lie, so when you call me a 'liar man' you're obviously the one telling the falsehoods. And second, my point was that the only reason BeOS might be better than Windows is if you are looking at the price. But since Linux is totally free and much better than BeOS, it proves that BeOS really has no advantage over any other OS.
"I happend to like MS."
How in the world can you say you don't lie when you say things like that and then turn around and call me brainwashed by MS and wasting my money for using Windows? It's obvious that you've completely lied here.
"I use BeOS just because BeOS has more power"
Yet another lie from you. The BeOS operating system has absolutely no more power than Linux or Windows.
"MS want discourage other to use Linux by saying that if Linux is not agree to some
standard then Linux is not good."
Another of your lies, since these views are from the LINUX COMMUNITY, not from Microsoft. Frankly, Microsoft doesn't even care much about Linux because they have nothing to fear from Linux yet.
"The OS has the most potential of all other OS out there."
Yet again another lie from you. This whole statement is complete speculation. It can't even have a single fact behind it. The potential of any OS is based on the writers of the OS, not on the OS itself. When an OS needs to grow in areas, the programmers write the code for it to do so. It has absolutely nothing to do with what is already in the code.
"And THG as reviewer site should look into this wheter is it good or not,
whether is usefull or not."
Yet another lie. THG has yet to look into something that isn't good or useful just because someone thinks that THG should look into it.
"good religion doesn't counted by their follower.
Could you say religion A is better than B because having more follower?"
Another perfect example of you twist words. How can anyone compare an OS to a religion with a straight face?
"BeOS is stand for Best ever Operating System.
And it is...."
It most certainly is thoroughly proven that it is not the best OS ever. It does have some good concepts. But it lacks in MANY ways.
"you 100% against BeOS for no reason"
Yet another lie, since I've given reason after reason after reason. And I'm not against BeOS. I'm against you preaching BeOS like it's some answer to all the world's problems. And against you arguing with me when I have facts and you have only your attitude.
"because you said BeOS is sux."
Another lie because I am 100% certain that I NEVER said BeOS, "sux".
"I don't running an advertise for BeOS."
Geeze! This is the biggest lie of them ALL! Your autosignature is an advertisement for BeOS. Or hadn't you noticed? And you posted this:
"BeOS is a new OS created from scracth.
It's more advance than Linux (Linux is based on Unix)
and it's more advance than WinNT (NT is based on Windows)
You could find some BeOS news on
*
http://www.benews.com
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http://www.beoscentral.com
Or download BeOS from:
*
http://free.be.com
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http://www.gobe.com
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http://www.bebits.com
some BeOS tips:
http://ww.betips.net"
What can anyone call that other than an advertisement for BeOS? You lie! You lie! You lie!
"Not everybody created equal."
Another lie. EVERYONE is created equal. Not everyone has the same needs, wants, personalities, etc., but everyone IS created equal.
"You talk sweatly, but there were poison inside every word you said."
No. There were honest questions that I had about the OS. I'm ALWAYS interested in looking for a better product. I asked you completely innocent questions. And you attacked me with absolutely no provocation. The ONLY poison in anyone's words, was the poison in yours. You claimed to want to have an intellectual conversation about BeOS, and then you turned it into a fight.
"I never said this." (Referring to you saying that BeOS being no better than any other OS.)
Yes, you did say it. You didn't say it in this section. You said it in the other 'conversation' (if you can call it one since it was only you attacking me). I asked why BeOS was better. You explained how the entire API is based on multi-threading. But then you explained how the automatic multi-threading is really very basic and not very useful. And that to get a good multi-threaded application you had to still program it all manually anyway. In case you're not smart enough to put two and two together, I will spell it out for you. THIS MAKES IT EXACTLY LIKE ANY OTHER OS! So you DID say that BeOS WAS no better than any other OS.
"I call you liar because you like to twist a fact so much."
Yet another lie, as I haven't twisted a single fact yet. They're all right there for anyone to plainly see. It's YOU who twist things. And it's YOU who lie because you fail to accept the truth.
"
>It wasn't ME who discredited BeOS. It was BeOS who discredited
>itself by NOT being what it could/should be. Or perhaps it was you
>who discredited BeOS by claiming it was more than it actually is.
See what I mean. You talked nicely at first sentence of your paragraphs, then twisted a fact with lie on the latter sentence."
Yet more lies from you. I didn't twist a single fact there. You ARE claiming that BeOS is more than it actually is and are serving to greatly discredit it in doing so.
"BeOS support great amount of hardware."
Yet more lies. It supports SOME hardware. It is hardly a 'great' amount though.
"And THG could use some native BeOS software to test for SMP system."
Yet another lie. They most certainly could not use some native BeOS software to test because then they would be completely unable to run the same software on a Windows or Linux system. And if they can't run the same software on all platforms, then it isn't any sort of a fair comparison because the software itself could be making the difference in performance. Thus it CANNOT be used to benchmark.
"It doesn't have to have the Window counterpart.
As THG didn't have Windows kernel compilation."
Again you twist things into horrible lies. THG has NEVER compared the performance of Windows against that of Linux. They have compared two different CPUs on how well they work under both platforms. That is COMPLETELY different from comparing the two OSs. So you CANNOT use this as a legitimate argument for why THG should benchmark BeOS.
"How can you know the truth about BeOS if you never touch it."
Again, another lie. First, how COULD you know if I never used BeOS? Second, I DID TRY TO USE BEOS. It didn't support my hardware. I couldn't use it.
"And THG did had hardware to do benchmark."
Since an important role would be to see how well the best hardware runs under each OS, that means they would be using a GeForce 2 Ultra. Where's the BeOS support for that, may I ask? Oh, it doens't exist?
"I did better than you." (referring to practicing Zen)
First off, I NEVER preached Zen. You did. So you can't possibly hold it against me for not practicing it because I never even suggested that I do. Second off, every other statement from you is an attack on me. Me, I only call you intellectually challenged every so often. So that in itself proves that you're again lying because it's blatantly obvious that I AM more Zen-like than you. Those who practice Zen don't go around attacking people. It's a simple and obvious fact.
"Standard limit imagination."
Spoken like a true liar. Standards do NOT limit imagination. Standards prevent numerous people from having to write the same thing over and over and over. Standards give a solid groundwork to things so that anyone else can come along and UNDERSTAND what is being done. STANDARDS ARE THE BUILDING BLOCKS OF GOOD PROGRAMMING! Anyone who says that standards limit imagination are only trying to hide the fact that they aren't smart enough understand the standards.
"Only idiot like you need standard to use Linux."
Again, you twist my words. I NEVER said that I needed standards to use Linux. I said that Linux will flounder and never be able to compete successfully against Windows until they can set some standards so that the different Linux coders aren't fighting each other anymore and instead can concentrate on just making the code better. Even Linux programmers will completely agree with that.
"Linux is good because it has more than one standard."
No, Linux is hard for Linux fans to upgrade because it has too many people trying to set completely different standards.
"Even microsoft reliase this and had made WinCE, Win9x, WinNT.
Why?? Because one can't fit all."
Again you lie and twist things into complete nonesense. Microsoft wrote NT different from Windows9x because Win9x users didn't need (or want) things like forced security and multiple-processor support. Then later MS realized how painful it was to support several different OSs and wrote Windows 2000. Windows 2000 is Microsoft's effort to bring all Windows users back under a single Windows standard because THEY DON'T WANT TO SUPPORT SEVERAL DIFFERENT OSs.
"Don't tell me that you only 5 years old."
Again, you have twisted words into falsehood. I never said I was. I never even suggested or hinted that I was. It's only YOU TRYING TO FIGHT ME. Not very Zen-like, are you?
"No wonder your post doesn't show any inteligent a grown up should have."
Yet two more lies here. First off, my posts happen to be a lot more intelligent than yours because unlike you I actually give facts and reason, where as you just argue and attack my personhood. Second off, I think it's pretty obvious by your grammar who's posts don't show intelligence. But I'm willing to grant that you may not be a native speaker of English and am willing to overlook that. But again, the pot should never be calling the kettle black.
"but somehow some troll bait me into flame war."
For your information, in case you don't realise how much you're lying here, you voluntarily walked into it. And YOU'RE the only one blatantly flaming anyone/thing.
As for me, I've only been giving the side of the coin that you refuse to admit BeOS has: That BeOS does not meet the needs of most users, and that it is NOT the best OS ever.
I have never once said that BeOS is horrible and should never exist, or even anything close to such. I look forward to a day when fanatics like you will help to make it an actually good OS that may one day actually be able to compete against Windows.
However, if anything is capable of doing such I will be putting my bet on Linux.
Cycnuskus, so far you have sounded like a childish intellectually-challenged bully. And I don't for one second regret showing this to everyone here. Because it's obvious that anything that comes out of your mouth has a high probability of being twisted if not a flat out lie. For example, I haven't 'baited' you once. You freely walked right into starting a fight with me, even in the last section in the forum when I was only trying to ask you for more information about BeOS. You have time and time again started every fight. All I have ever done is try to give the whole picture to BeOS so that other people can decide for themselves if it is useful to them or not.
If you can call pointing out flaws with a product 'baiting' you into a 'flame war', then you have some issues to work out.
Personally, I'd LOVE to hold an intellectual conversation about the benefits of BeOS. Just not with you, because you obviously are not capable of such.
However, if you would like to prove me wrong and talk about it's usefullness without simultaniously bashing Linux, Windows, or myself then by all means please do so because I do enjoy a good conversation with intelligent people.
- Sanity is purely based on point-of-view.
. You can drive around the town (play with the OS).
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