GeForce GTX 460 (GF104) Specs, Speeds Leaked?

[nforce4max]

I'll pass this one up if runs hotter and uses more power than my aging 8800gtx. I have other cards but these newer cards are a disappointment to say the least.

 

[kalogagatya]

[citation][nom]jtt283[/nom]It's still vaporware until 1) there are benchmarks and 2) you can readily find them for purchase.Nice that it appears to be a short card.@kalogagatya, just built one. PM me if you'd like details. Or go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTeAknYYVr8 for a slide show of the build.So far I'm pleased with it.[/citation]
yeah that case can fit most decent graphic cards
thnks!

 

[matt_b]

[citation][nom]cmcghee358[/nom]Bring it on, the more competiton the more it will drive prices down![/citation]
This generation is less about competition bringing down prices for consumers, and more about TSMC not being able to supply a great enough yield so that ATI + Nvidia can lower their MSRP due to less of a bill footed for silicone coasters. Any other generation it has been a given that competition has made the other guys lower their asking price, but TSMC just hasn't perfected 40nm yet.

 

[ncr7002]

i am so sick and tired of people asking about power usage!!! if you can afford to buy this type of cards then you should be able to pay for your electrical bill, if not then don't bother. personally I don't care if my system uses 200W or 1200W, who gives a crap. if you want performance you should understand that the system is going to be power hungry

I strongly disagree. Hardware needs to be efficient when it comes to power consumption, performance alone will not do. And this is not just about the bill, it is about the quality of the final product.

Increasing performance at the expense of wattage is unacceptable. We need to reduce power consumption worldwide on all fronts. The planet can only take so much crap from us humans.

On top of that some people like me might have a complex and very expensive UPS system rated for a certain amount of power, and if card a, b or c happens to surpass the limits of such UPS then it is completely useless to us, so we need to know about power consumption and we need this data to be accurate.

 

[Guest]

Fermi is a design fail, no matter how you cut it down, and no matter what price they charge for it.

You just can't turn chicken crap into chicken salad.

 

[Onus]

On the purely GPU front, damric you may be correct, but for CUDA / GPGPU it may be quite a powerhouse.

Hear that nVidia? Let it run for that, seamlessly with my existing ATi GPU, and I might buy one. Otherwise you get ZILCH.

 

[Fokissed]

[citation][nom]fercba[/nom]In the backside pic you can see that there are two six-pin PCI-E connectors for the PSU (solder points), that means a maximum power consumption of: 150W(PCI-E 16X port 2.0 version)+75W+75W= 300W, since six-pin PCI-E connectors provide 75W each and PCI-E eight-pin connectors supply a maximum of 150W. So it should be around 230/280W for this card, presumably.[/citation]
That would be ALOT for this card.

 

[rage machine]

seems shorter and a bit more stubby than other cards of this series. I am still using a GTX 280, is it worth an upgrade to the newer line? if so, which one?

 

[Regulas]

[citation][nom]ncr7002[/nom]I strongly disagree. Hardware needs to be efficient when it comes to power consumption, performance alone will not do. And this is not just about the bill, it is about the quality of the final product.Increasing performance at the expense of wattage is unacceptable. We need to reduce power consumption worldwide on all fronts. The planet can only take so much crap from us humans.On top of that some people like me might have a complex and very expensive UPS system rated for a certain amount of power, and if card a, b or c happens to surpass the limits of such UPS then it is completely useless to us, so we need to know about power consumption and we need this data to be accurate.[/citation]
Take your modern day Druidism (Al Gore Cult) and stick it. The global warming lie has been revealed months ago but idiots are still out there that think it is true. Our Commie and Chief Obama Hussein keeps promoting it because it means more taxes and and government control toward Socialism.

 

[FloKid]

Never gonna spend my money on this junk

 

[jacobdrj]

Why does this card exist? What purpose does it serve? What niche does it fill?

 

[victomofreality]

why you wouldn't pitch the extra $20 for the 1g is beyond me...

 

[HavoCnMe]

This will drive the prices down at the local swap meet for sure...LOL

 

[drutort]

to me its about heat and a small room... living in a hot climate a performance PC in a small bedroom just screws with the climate really bad. Its not the fact that it takes more power, if that power would not add more heat it wouldnt be an issue but because it adds quite a bit of heat its a major issue when u live in places like AZ, sure in the winter its all nice and warm literally from a PC in a small room. BUT in the summer jeez u have to crank the AC just to cool one room, that will kill your electric bill NOT the pc consumption of power

my sys has a 5850 (had 5870 didnt need it really) a x3 720 unlocked x4 and clocked at 3.4ghz and now it has a gef 240 as well for physx, reason for the 240 vs older cards is exactly the idle power consumption and heat generating as its far less then the older cards like 9600/9800

the heat at idle isnt too bad but if i run anything graphic intensive over a few hours the temps in a room get quite unbearable in the summer, forcing to crank up the AC when takes far more power then a number of pc's put together

im even contemplating getting cool n quit back and maybe sacrificing the o/c on the cpu as that is always running at full speed which 90% of the time isnt needed on my comp

 

[Mousemonkey]

Why does this card exist? What purpose does it serve? What niche does it fill?

If the GTX470 was EOL'd...

 

[kdashjl]

waiting gtx 495

 

[Guest]

just as a note. The gtx 460 does not have any L2 cache vs the 465 does. So a 465/470/480 would give you more power per core count then a 460.

 

[nukemaster]

[citation][nom]kalogagatya[/nom]yeah that case can fit most decent graphic cardsthnks![/citation]
I think you need to look at that case better. 300mm or almost 12 inches of video card. So many high end cards will fit. The 5970 is about the only thing I can not see fitting(and its damn close).

 

[The_One_and_Only]

Yay, lets play Crysis @ 20-30 FPS STILL!!!!! It's 2010 people where is my flying car WTF???? Oh and a line of cards that actually beats all of the cards in the old line up... just my 2 cents

 

[masterjaw]

I would suspend judgment on this card until this became available and been reviewed. Everyone knows Fermi is a power hungry product. For those who care about heat and power consumption, there's nothing wrong with that. Those people who only care about performance (and their e-peen as well) might opt for this card if it is kinda on-par with 5770.

 

[cj_online]

wow well worth the $20 for the 1GB

 

[bochica]

[citation][nom]nebun[/nom]i am so sick and tired of people asking about power usage!!! if you can afford to buy this type of cards then you should be able to pay for your electrical bill, if not then don't bother. personally I don't care if my system uses 200W or 1200W, who gives a crap. if you want performance you should understand that the system is going to be power hungry[/citation]
When you can decide between ATI/Nvidia with price and performance, power consumption and heat are the next two factors even a gamer would look at. The thing with the fermi chips is that they should not be running this hot, nor should they need the amount of power that is required with the current 4xx cards. The only thing different between the 5xxx and 4xx is that the Geforce's are GPGPUs, everything else is the same.

Just because you have enough money to buy the card, it does not mean you have the money in the long run to cover the costs of power/cooling. Some people "splurge" on their video card. Heat/power was the deciding factor for me when it was 4xxx vs 2xx. The Geforce's ran cooler, had lower power consumption, and performed on par or better to a comparable Radeon. Guaranteed, if a die shrink comes out that helps the 4xx's power/heat, sales will go up in a heartbeat. I have been on Nvidia's side since the 5 series, and I used 3dFx cards before then. Nvidia usually does well, but the 4xx series is just a hiccup that will pass.

 

[BruceOTB]

Todays generation of cards have been very expensive. I'll be waiting for the next gen.

Also, the hdmi port on that card is unusable, the sides of the hdmi cable would bump on to the screw attachments.

 

[BruceOTB]

Todays generation of cards have been very expensive. I'll be waiting for the next gen.

Also, the hdmi port on that card is unusable, the sides of the hdmi cable would bump on to the screw attachments.

 

[amstech]

Boooooooo... Boooooooo.